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Dear group,
I've encounterd a strange problem when connecting to a network share from a Vista client (laptop) over a Wireless connection. I'm confronted with the following behaviour: After mapping the share as drive, when i right click on the assigned drive letter in the explorer it shows me the properties of the drive like free space available etc. I can even see the sub-directories from the root if there are no or just a few files. When i browse to a subdirectory with files in it then Vista is very busy and then after a few minutes the following error is presented to me: "\\server\share\dir is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have access permissions. The specified network name is no longer available." Internet access over the wireless connection in Vista works great so i think my network drivers all are working properly. What puzzels me is that when I connect to the same share from Vista over a wired UTP connection there is absolutly now problem. Also the same connection from Window XP over a wireless (same computer) also works without any problem. I've also tried to connect from a different laptop also with Vista Ultimate on it but it gave me the same problem. So the question is what could make my wireless connection in Windows Vista so different from a UTP connection. I'm thinking of some special security feature of Vista for wireless connections or could it be something on the server? The network share is part of a Windows 2003 server (no domain). The security properties of the share are as follows. Everyone full access on both Network Sharing and NTFS level. I connect to the share with the administrator account of the Windows 2003 server. The laptops i've used for this test are both multi-boot with Windows Vista Ultimate & Windows XP SP2 Peter |
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All,
I have the same issue. Vista connecting to a 2003 non-domain server share. Wired works fine, wireless has a problem (no issues with XP on the same machine). Wireless internet access is ok and pinging and seeing the share names on the 2003 Server seems fine. The issue shows when trying to open the share as seen in the original post below. Additional info: Remote Desktop to Windows Server 2003 also works fine with wired but not wireless. Creating a share on the Vista machine can be seen and browsed from other machines when the Vista machine is wireless only. Any help/thoughts would be welcome Ed "Peter" wrote: Dear group, I've encounterd a strange problem when connecting to a network share from a Vista client (laptop) over a Wireless connection. I'm confronted with the following behaviour: After mapping the share as drive, when i right click on the assigned drive letter in the explorer it shows me the properties of the drive like free space available etc. I can even see the sub-directories from the root if there are no or just a few files. When i browse to a subdirectory with files in it then Vista is very busy and then after a few minutes the following error is presented to me: "\\server\share\dir is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have access permissions. The specified network name is no longer available." Internet access over the wireless connection in Vista works great so i think my network drivers all are working properly. What puzzels me is that when I connect to the same share from Vista over a wired UTP connection there is absolutly now problem. Also the same connection from Window XP over a wireless (same computer) also works without any problem. I've also tried to connect from a different laptop also with Vista Ultimate on it but it gave me the same problem. So the question is what could make my wireless connection in Windows Vista so different from a UTP connection. I'm thinking of some special security feature of Vista for wireless connections or could it be something on the server? The network share is part of a Windows 2003 server (no domain). The security properties of the share are as follows. Everyone full access on both Network Sharing and NTFS level. I connect to the share with the administrator account of the Windows 2003 server. The laptops i've used for this test are both multi-boot with Windows Vista Ultimate & Windows XP SP2 Peter |
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Don't know if my musings can be of much help, but I'll give it a shot since
you're not getting much play in this thread. Am I right to assume that you have not configured firewall policies on these systems? I haven't seen what you're describing, and I'm testing Vista (again, assuming RTM?) on several systems that connect to various networks via both Ethernet and wireless. In fact, I have seen a definite improvement in network browsing and general performance since switching these systems from XP to Vista, and these systems are locked down pretty tightly. Silly question, perhaps, but do you see the same issues when NOT mapping but just using UNC. I have a couple of observations. 1. I have seen similar (but not the same) behavior from WinXP clients using Explorer to look at network shares on a large AD2003 (not R2, yet) domain. It's really weird and unexplainable (to me) that highlighting and expanding subdirectories of a share using the left pane of Explorer is outrageously slow, and sometimes stalls. Double-clicking my way down through the subdirectories of the same share (in the same danged Explorer session) in the RIGHT pane of explorer provides instantaneous response. I do NOT see this behavior on my Vista machines. 2. I have seen very simiar (perhaps exactly the same, but not enough info) behavior on WinXP machines on which I had installed Windows Live OneCare. No matter how they were configured wireless was just out of luck. Wired connections were, more or less, okay. That type of failure occurred on 4 out of 4 systems on which WLOC was tested here. That was a couple of months ago. Haven't touched WLOC since then so don't know if any progress has been made. Have never tried the 1.5 beta of WLOC (earlier versions not compatible) with Vista. I have no knowledge as to whether or not the WLOC firewall and the Vista firewall have similar underpinnings. The WLOC firewall replaces, I am told, the XP firewall when WLOC is installed. It doesn't work well. The one on Vista seems to work well. So I'm guessing / hoping they are not closely related. Or perhaps they're the same, and what works in Vista just doesn't work in XP. So, there are my musings. I hope they might provide some grist for the mill, though you'd have to be pretty lucky to find an actual solution in there. Actually troubleshooting a networking issue like this in a newsgroup is going to, at the very least, require the exchange of a LOT of very precise verbiage. Good luck! "London Ed" wrote: All, I have the same issue. Vista connecting to a 2003 non-domain server share. Wired works fine, wireless has a problem (no issues with XP on the same machine). Wireless internet access is ok and pinging and seeing the share names on the 2003 Server seems fine. The issue shows when trying to open the share as seen in the original post below. Additional info: Remote Desktop to Windows Server 2003 also works fine with wired but not wireless. Creating a share on the Vista machine can be seen and browsed from other machines when the Vista machine is wireless only. Any help/thoughts would be welcome Ed "Peter" wrote: Dear group, I've encounterd a strange problem when connecting to a network share from a Vista client (laptop) over a Wireless connection. I'm confronted with the following behaviour: After mapping the share as drive, when i right click on the assigned drive letter in the explorer it shows me the properties of the drive like free space available etc. I can even see the sub-directories from the root if there are no or just a few files. When i browse to a subdirectory with files in it then Vista is very busy and then after a few minutes the following error is presented to me: "\\server\share\dir is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have access permissions. The specified network name is no longer available." Internet access over the wireless connection in Vista works great so i think my network drivers all are working properly. What puzzels me is that when I connect to the same share from Vista over a wired UTP connection there is absolutly now problem. Also the same connection from Window XP over a wireless (same computer) also works without any problem. I've also tried to connect from a different laptop also with Vista Ultimate on it but it gave me the same problem. So the question is what could make my wireless connection in Windows Vista so different from a UTP connection. I'm thinking of some special security feature of Vista for wireless connections or could it be something on the server? The network share is part of a Windows 2003 server (no domain). The security properties of the share are as follows. Everyone full access on both Network Sharing and NTFS level. I connect to the share with the administrator account of the Windows 2003 server. The laptops i've used for this test are both multi-boot with Windows Vista Ultimate & Windows XP SP2 Peter |
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I'm afraid I'm not going to be any help here as I too am experiencing
exactly the same issues. My feeling were that it might have something to do with using a pre-shared key for wireless encryption (I have no option as that is all my router allows me to do.) and NAP. Another point is with Remote Desktop I can connect and the logon screen appears and then get a message that the server terminated the connection, so it does work on some level. Also again everything is fine with the wired connection. I am using the RTM build, I also switched off the firewall so feel pretty sure it's not that. Pierre On 26 Jan, 11:12, London Ed London wrote: All, I have the same issue. Vista connecting to a 2003 non-domain server share. Wired works fine, wireless has a problem (no issues with XP on the same machine). Wireless internet access is ok and pinging and seeing the share names on the 2003 Server seems fine. The issue shows when trying to open the share as seen in the original post below. Additional info: Remote Desktop to Windows Server 2003 also works fine with wired but not wireless. Creating a share on the Vista machine can be seen and browsed from other machines when the Vista machine is wireless only. Any help/thoughts would be welcome Ed "Peter" wrote: Dear group, I've encounterd a strange problem when connecting to a network share from a Vista client (laptop) over a Wireless connection. I'm confronted with the following behaviour: After mapping the share as drive, when i right click on the assigned drive letter in the explorer it shows me the properties of the drive like free space available etc. I can even see the sub-directories from the root if there are no or just a few files. When i browse to a subdirectory with files in it then Vista is very busy and then after a few minutes the following error is presented to me: "\\server\share\dir is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have access permissions. The specified network name is no longer available." Internet access over the wireless connection in Vista works great so i think my network drivers all are working properly. What puzzels me is that when I connect to the same share from Vista over a wired UTP connection there is absolutly now problem. Also the same connection from Window XP over a wireless (same computer) also works without any problem. I've also tried to connect from a different laptop also with Vista Ultimate on it but it gave me the same problem. So the question is what could make my wireless connection in Windows Vista so different from a UTP connection. I'm thinking of some special security feature of Vista for wireless connections or could it be something on the server? The network share is part of a Windows 2003 server (no domain). The security properties of the share are as follows. Everyone full access on both Network Sharing and NTFS level. I connect to the share with the administrator account of the Windows 2003 server. The laptops i've used for this test are both multi-boot with Windows Vista Ultimate & Windows XP SP2 Peter |
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I am also using RTM (Business Edition). I get the same symptoms using Remote
Desktop. The curious thing is that all is fine on wired which eliminates the usual permissions suspicions. I have tried other things tonight such as connect via \\ipaddress\share to eliminate DNS resolution issues. New info below: I can browse via wireless to a share on my Windows XP PC. Everything works fine to my XP Professional PC as expected. So the problem is only with wireless to Windows Server 2003. Wired to the same Windows Server 2003 is fine. Has anybody tried other things to eliminate the usual suspects? BTW, my Windows 2003 is the original release with all updates (not R2). Ed "Pierre" wrote: I'm afraid I'm not going to be any help here as I too am experiencing exactly the same issues. My feeling were that it might have something to do with using a pre-shared key for wireless encryption (I have no option as that is all my router allows me to do.) and NAP. Another point is with Remote Desktop I can connect and the logon screen appears and then get a message that the server terminated the connection, so it does work on some level. Also again everything is fine with the wired connection. I am using the RTM build, I also switched off the firewall so feel pretty sure it's not that. Pierre On 26 Jan, 11:12, London Ed London wrote: All, I have the same issue. Vista connecting to a 2003 non-domain server share. Wired works fine, wireless has a problem (no issues with XP on the same machine). Wireless internet access is ok and pinging and seeing the share names on the 2003 Server seems fine. The issue shows when trying to open the share as seen in the original post below. Additional info: Remote Desktop to Windows Server 2003 also works fine with wired but not wireless. Creating a share on the Vista machine can be seen and browsed from other machines when the Vista machine is wireless only. Any help/thoughts would be welcome Ed "Peter" wrote: Dear group, I've encounterd a strange problem when connecting to a network share from a Vista client (laptop) over a Wireless connection. I'm confronted with the following behaviour: After mapping the share as drive, when i right click on the assigned drive letter in the explorer it shows me the properties of the drive like free space available etc. I can even see the sub-directories from the root if there are no or just a few files. When i browse to a subdirectory with files in it then Vista is very busy and then after a few minutes the following error is presented to me: "\\server\share\dir is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have access permissions. The specified network name is no longer available." Internet access over the wireless connection in Vista works great so i think my network drivers all are working properly. What puzzels me is that when I connect to the same share from Vista over a wired UTP connection there is absolutly now problem. Also the same connection from Window XP over a wireless (same computer) also works without any problem. I've also tried to connect from a different laptop also with Vista Ultimate on it but it gave me the same problem. So the question is what could make my wireless connection in Windows Vista so different from a UTP connection. I'm thinking of some special security feature of Vista for wireless connections or could it be something on the server? The network share is part of a Windows 2003 server (no domain). The security properties of the share are as follows. Everyone full access on both Network Sharing and NTFS level. I connect to the share with the administrator account of the Windows 2003 server. The laptops i've used for this test are both multi-boot with Windows Vista Ultimate & Windows XP SP2 Peter |
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I have turned the firewall on and off to see if it made a difference.
Unfortunately the problem persists. Ed "jimmuh" wrote: Don't know if my musings can be of much help, but I'll give it a shot since you're not getting much play in this thread. Am I right to assume that you have not configured firewall policies on these systems? I haven't seen what you're describing, and I'm testing Vista (again, assuming RTM?) on several systems that connect to various networks via both Ethernet and wireless. In fact, I have seen a definite improvement in network browsing and general performance since switching these systems from XP to Vista, and these systems are locked down pretty tightly. Silly question, perhaps, but do you see the same issues when NOT mapping but just using UNC. I have a couple of observations. 1. I have seen similar (but not the same) behavior from WinXP clients using Explorer to look at network shares on a large AD2003 (not R2, yet) domain. It's really weird and unexplainable (to me) that highlighting and expanding subdirectories of a share using the left pane of Explorer is outrageously slow, and sometimes stalls. Double-clicking my way down through the subdirectories of the same share (in the same danged Explorer session) in the RIGHT pane of explorer provides instantaneous response. I do NOT see this behavior on my Vista machines. 2. I have seen very simiar (perhaps exactly the same, but not enough info) behavior on WinXP machines on which I had installed Windows Live OneCare. No matter how they were configured wireless was just out of luck. Wired connections were, more or less, okay. That type of failure occurred on 4 out of 4 systems on which WLOC was tested here. That was a couple of months ago. Haven't touched WLOC since then so don't know if any progress has been made. Have never tried the 1.5 beta of WLOC (earlier versions not compatible) with Vista. I have no knowledge as to whether or not the WLOC firewall and the Vista firewall have similar underpinnings. The WLOC firewall replaces, I am told, the XP firewall when WLOC is installed. It doesn't work well. The one on Vista seems to work well. So I'm guessing / hoping they are not closely related. Or perhaps they're the same, and what works in Vista just doesn't work in XP. So, there are my musings. I hope they might provide some grist for the mill, though you'd have to be pretty lucky to find an actual solution in there. Actually troubleshooting a networking issue like this in a newsgroup is going to, at the very least, require the exchange of a LOT of very precise verbiage. Good luck! "London Ed" wrote: All, I have the same issue. Vista connecting to a 2003 non-domain server share. Wired works fine, wireless has a problem (no issues with XP on the same machine). Wireless internet access is ok and pinging and seeing the share names on the 2003 Server seems fine. The issue shows when trying to open the share as seen in the original post below. Additional info: Remote Desktop to Windows Server 2003 also works fine with wired but not wireless. Creating a share on the Vista machine can be seen and browsed from other machines when the Vista machine is wireless only. Any help/thoughts would be welcome Ed "Peter" wrote: Dear group, I've encounterd a strange problem when connecting to a network share from a Vista client (laptop) over a Wireless connection. I'm confronted with the following behaviour: After mapping the share as drive, when i right click on the assigned drive letter in the explorer it shows me the properties of the drive like free space available etc. I can even see the sub-directories from the root if there are no or just a few files. When i browse to a subdirectory with files in it then Vista is very busy and then after a few minutes the following error is presented to me: "\\server\share\dir is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have access permissions. The specified network name is no longer available." Internet access over the wireless connection in Vista works great so i think my network drivers all are working properly. What puzzels me is that when I connect to the same share from Vista over a wired UTP connection there is absolutly now problem. Also the same connection from Window XP over a wireless (same computer) also works without any problem. I've also tried to connect from a different laptop also with Vista Ultimate on it but it gave me the same problem. So the question is what could make my wireless connection in Windows Vista so different from a UTP connection. I'm thinking of some special security feature of Vista for wireless connections or could it be something on the server? The network share is part of a Windows 2003 server (no domain). The security properties of the share are as follows. Everyone full access on both Network Sharing and NTFS level. I connect to the share with the administrator account of the Windows 2003 server. The laptops i've used for this test are both multi-boot with Windows Vista Ultimate & Windows XP SP2 Peter |
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The plot thickens. I have reinstalled Vista on this machine (a Dell 9300)
and straight after onto my 4 year old son's Dell 500m. The news Dell 9300 still exhibits the problem but the old Dell 500m (with only 802.11b wireless) has no issues connecting to shares on my Windows Server 2003. So my 4 year old kid can do everything and I can't. I'd hate this to be one of those obscure hardware/driver/software combination things. "London Ed" wrote: All, I have the same issue. Vista connecting to a 2003 non-domain server share. Wired works fine, wireless has a problem (no issues with XP on the same machine). Wireless internet access is ok and pinging and seeing the share names on the 2003 Server seems fine. The issue shows when trying to open the share as seen in the original post below. Additional info: Remote Desktop to Windows Server 2003 also works fine with wired but not wireless. Creating a share on the Vista machine can be seen and browsed from other machines when the Vista machine is wireless only. Any help/thoughts would be welcome Ed "Peter" wrote: Dear group, I've encounterd a strange problem when connecting to a network share from a Vista client (laptop) over a Wireless connection. I'm confronted with the following behaviour: After mapping the share as drive, when i right click on the assigned drive letter in the explorer it shows me the properties of the drive like free space available etc. I can even see the sub-directories from the root if there are no or just a few files. When i browse to a subdirectory with files in it then Vista is very busy and then after a few minutes the following error is presented to me: "\\server\share\dir is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have access permissions. The specified network name is no longer available." Internet access over the wireless connection in Vista works great so i think my network drivers all are working properly. What puzzels me is that when I connect to the same share from Vista over a wired UTP connection there is absolutly now problem. Also the same connection from Window XP over a wireless (same computer) also works without any problem. I've also tried to connect from a different laptop also with Vista Ultimate on it but it gave me the same problem. So the question is what could make my wireless connection in Windows Vista so different from a UTP connection. I'm thinking of some special security feature of Vista for wireless connections or could it be something on the server? The network share is part of a Windows 2003 server (no domain). The security properties of the share are as follows. Everyone full access on both Network Sharing and NTFS level. I connect to the share with the administrator account of the Windows 2003 server. The laptops i've used for this test are both multi-boot with Windows Vista Ultimate & Windows XP SP2 Peter |
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Still the same problem. I bought a Toshiba A100-338 laptop today and I still
have the same issue. I am starting to think it could be my BeBox ADSL 2+ router. I don't have spare ADSL router to try so I will have to update the firmware and see if that makes a difference. "London Ed" wrote: All, I have the same issue. Vista connecting to a 2003 non-domain server share. Wired works fine, wireless has a problem (no issues with XP on the same machine). Wireless internet access is ok and pinging and seeing the share names on the 2003 Server seems fine. The issue shows when trying to open the share as seen in the original post below. Additional info: Remote Desktop to Windows Server 2003 also works fine with wired but not wireless. Creating a share on the Vista machine can be seen and browsed from other machines when the Vista machine is wireless only. Any help/thoughts would be welcome Ed "Peter" wrote: Dear group, I've encounterd a strange problem when connecting to a network share from a Vista client (laptop) over a Wireless connection. I'm confronted with the following behaviour: After mapping the share as drive, when i right click on the assigned drive letter in the explorer it shows me the properties of the drive like free space available etc. I can even see the sub-directories from the root if there are no or just a few files. When i browse to a subdirectory with files in it then Vista is very busy and then after a few minutes the following error is presented to me: "\\server\share\dir is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have access permissions. The specified network name is no longer available." Internet access over the wireless connection in Vista works great so i think my network drivers all are working properly. What puzzels me is that when I connect to the same share from Vista over a wired UTP connection there is absolutly now problem. Also the same connection from Window XP over a wireless (same computer) also works without any problem. I've also tried to connect from a different laptop also with Vista Ultimate on it but it gave me the same problem. So the question is what could make my wireless connection in Windows Vista so different from a UTP connection. I'm thinking of some special security feature of Vista for wireless connections or could it be something on the server? The network share is part of a Windows 2003 server (no domain). The security properties of the share are as follows. Everyone full access on both Network Sharing and NTFS level. I connect to the share with the administrator account of the Windows 2003 server. The laptops i've used for this test are both multi-boot with Windows Vista Ultimate & Windows XP SP2 Peter |
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Hi,
I've not done much with this as I've been away but still have the problem :-(. I installed Vista on a IBM T41 Thinkpad, and the wireless worked fine with that. You just mentioned the BeBox router... I am using the Speedtouch 716 router that Be supply also! I have the latest firmware on there already though... I have a spare router and access point that I have used ( just downgrades the download rates from Be) but will try this and report back the results! I have already tried limiting the wireless to 802.11b as that's what the T41 was using successfuly, but my hp runs on 802.11g... this did not make a difference for me though. Pierre On 5 Feb, 21:20, London Ed wrote: Still the same problem. I bought a Toshiba A100-338 laptop today and I still have the same issue. I am starting to think it could be my BeBox ADSL 2+ router. I don't have spare ADSL router to try so I will have to update the firmware and see if that makes a difference. |
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OK I've taken the BeBox out of my network and I can now access my
network without issue over the wireless. I had a D-link wireless router lying around, which I am now using. The only downside is my download rate had halved ![]() This does seem to point the fingure at an incompatibility with the BeBox (Speedtouch) routers that Be supply. Thanks for your help, was good to know I was not the only one! Pierre On 6 Feb, 11:52, "Pierre" wrote: Hi, I've not done much with this as I've been away but still have the problem :-(. I installedVistaon a IBM T41 Thinkpad, and thewireless worked fine with that. You just mentioned the BeBox router... I am using the Speedtouch 716 router that Be supply also! I have the latest firmware on there already though... I have a spare router and access point that I have used ( just downgrades the download rates from Be) but will try this and report back the results! I have already tried limiting thewirelessto 802.11b as that's what the T41 was using successfuly, but my hp runs on 802.11g... this did not make a difference for me though. Pierre On 5 Feb, 21:20, London Ed wrote: Still the same problem. I bought a Toshiba A100-338 laptop today and I still have the same issue. I am starting to think it could be my BeBox ADSL 2+ router. I don't have spare ADSL router to try so I will have to update the firmware and see if that makes a difference. |
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