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Repairing Vista



 
 
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  #11 (permalink)  
Old January 7th 09, 04:47 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Wiley C
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Posts: 49
Default Repairing Vista

Thank you. My intent, Mr Barnett, was not to spur you into action. I merely
needed clarification.

1. If one has installed Vista SP0 & upgraded to SP1, then received a BSOD
which prevents one from accessing Programs & feathers, to uninstall SP1,
what's a person to do?
1.a. Borrow an SP1 DVD from a friend?
1.b. Use a slipstreamed SP1 DVD?

Thank you, Mr Barnett, for your input.


"John Barnett MVP" wrote:

WC the site has now been updated.

--

--
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Windows XP Associate Expert
Windows Desktop Experience

Web: http://www.winuser.co.uk
Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org

The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
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reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for
any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the
use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
mail/post..


"Wiley C" wrote in message
...
Dear Mr Barnett:
Thank you.

Please clarify this step:
"3/ After the upgrade has completed the following instruction will be
found
useful"
Do "the following instruction" refer to steps 4 - 16, or something else?

You are certainly have more expertise and experience in this issue. But
to
me, your solution seems to me to re-install Vista using the SP0 disk, if
one
has upgraded to SP1.

Thanks for your time & knowledge.

Sincerely,
WC

"John Barnett MVP" wrote:

Check this link from my website:
http://www.winuser.co.uk/windows_vis...vista_dvd.html

--

--
John Barnett MVP
Windows XP Associate Expert
Windows Desktop Experience

Web: http://www.winuser.co.uk
Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org

The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable
for
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the
use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
mail/post..


"Wiley C" wrote in message
...
am familiar with the repair option, ' startup repair", from the Vista
DVD,
or
from the OEM.
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...f3f351033.mspx

In XP, if a PC developed an error and the fix was to try a repair
installation, if the XP PC had been upgraded from, for example, SP0 to
SP1
and the user tried the repair using the XP SP1 installation CD [ not an
upgrade CD ] [ for example http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315341 ],
messages
often appeared, informing the user that a file was missing.

If a user tries to repair Vista SP1, with a Vista SP0 DVD, does the
same
thing occur? If so, other than buying a Vista DVD, what can be done to
fix
the issue?

Thanks for your time & comments.



  #12 (permalink)  
Old January 7th 09, 09:59 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Rick Rogers
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Posts: 8,428
Default Repairing Vista

Then you have no repair options and will need to complete a side-by-side
installation. This you can do by not formatting during setup. The existing
installation will be moved to a windows.old folder where you can later
recover data from. You will not be able to recover installed software and
user accounts, these will need to be recreated. It won't matter what service
pack level disk you use for this.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"Wiley C" wrote in message
...
RR:
Thank you for the link. However, if the problem includes a BSOD of 0xf4
and
not being able to access Windows, your link will not work. I apologize
for
not including the limitation of not being able to access the desktop.

WC

"Rick Rogers" wrote:

Hi,

First, Vista does not offer a repair install like XP did due to a change
in
the way the installation is done. However, you can do an in-place upgrade
as
described he
http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/88...all-vista.html

Second, like with XP, you can't use an SP0 disk to install over or
upgrade
an SP1 installation. It has to be at the same or higher SP level. You
don't
need to buy a DVD though, just copy a friend's.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"Wiley C" wrote in message
...
am familiar with the repair option, ' startup repair", from the Vista
DVD,
or
from the OEM.
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...f3f351033.mspx

In XP, if a PC developed an error and the fix was to try a repair
installation, if the XP PC had been upgraded from, for example, SP0 to
SP1
and the user tried the repair using the XP SP1 installation CD [ not an
upgrade CD ] [ for example http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315341 ],
messages
often appeared, informing the user that a file was missing.

If a user tries to repair Vista SP1, with a Vista SP0 DVD, does the
same
thing occur? If so, other than buying a Vista DVD, what can be done to
fix
the issue?

Thanks for your time & comments.




  #13 (permalink)  
Old January 7th 09, 03:32 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
John Barnett MVP[_3_]
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Posts: 1,392
Default Repairing Vista

If something is not clear on my website(s) then I would rather know about
it. If I am told then the problem can be fixed, If no one says anything then
I can only assume everything is working as it should be.

Can you access the system through Safe Mode? If you can you should be able
to remove SP1

--

--
John Barnett MVP
Windows XP Associate Expert
Windows Desktop Experience

Web: http://www.winuser.co.uk
Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org

The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for
any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the
use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
mail/post..


"Wiley C" wrote in message
...
Thank you. My intent, Mr Barnett, was not to spur you into action. I
merely
needed clarification.

1. If one has installed Vista SP0 & upgraded to SP1, then received a BSOD
which prevents one from accessing Programs & feathers, to uninstall SP1,
what's a person to do?
1.a. Borrow an SP1 DVD from a friend?
1.b. Use a slipstreamed SP1 DVD?

Thank you, Mr Barnett, for your input.


"John Barnett MVP" wrote:

WC the site has now been updated.

--

--
John Barnett MVP
Windows XP Associate Expert
Windows Desktop Experience

Web: http://www.winuser.co.uk
Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org

The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable
for
any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of
the
use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
mail/post..


"Wiley C" wrote in message
...
Dear Mr Barnett:
Thank you.

Please clarify this step:
"3/ After the upgrade has completed the following instruction will be
found
useful"
Do "the following instruction" refer to steps 4 - 16, or something
else?

You are certainly have more expertise and experience in this issue.
But
to
me, your solution seems to me to re-install Vista using the SP0 disk,
if
one
has upgraded to SP1.

Thanks for your time & knowledge.

Sincerely,
WC

"John Barnett MVP" wrote:

Check this link from my website:
http://www.winuser.co.uk/windows_vis...vista_dvd.html

--

--
John Barnett MVP
Windows XP Associate Expert
Windows Desktop Experience

Web: http://www.winuser.co.uk
Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org

The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of
any
kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the
accuracy,
reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be
liable
for
any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out
of
the
use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
mail/post..


"Wiley C" wrote in message
...
am familiar with the repair option, ' startup repair", from the
Vista
DVD,
or
from the OEM.
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...f3f351033.mspx

In XP, if a PC developed an error and the fix was to try a repair
installation, if the XP PC had been upgraded from, for example, SP0
to
SP1
and the user tried the repair using the XP SP1 installation CD [ not
an
upgrade CD ] [ for example http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315341 ],
messages
often appeared, informing the user that a file was missing.

If a user tries to repair Vista SP1, with a Vista SP0 DVD, does the
same
thing occur? If so, other than buying a Vista DVD, what can be done
to
fix
the issue?

Thanks for your time & comments.



  #14 (permalink)  
Old January 8th 09, 04:49 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Wiley C
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Posts: 49
Default Repairing Vista

Mr Barnett:
Unfortunately, the desktop cannot be accessed using:
safe mode [ all variations ];
last known good config.
Startup repair fails.

WC

"John Barnett MVP" wrote:

If something is not clear on my website(s) then I would rather know about
it. If I am told then the problem can be fixed, If no one says anything then
I can only assume everything is working as it should be.

Can you access the system through Safe Mode? If you can you should be able
to remove SP1

--

--
John Barnett MVP
Windows XP Associate Expert
Windows Desktop Experience

Web: http://www.winuser.co.uk
Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org

The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for
any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the
use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
mail/post..


"Wiley C" wrote in message
...
Thank you. My intent, Mr Barnett, was not to spur you into action. I
merely
needed clarification.

1. If one has installed Vista SP0 & upgraded to SP1, then received a BSOD
which prevents one from accessing Programs & feathers, to uninstall SP1,
what's a person to do?
1.a. Borrow an SP1 DVD from a friend?
1.b. Use a slipstreamed SP1 DVD?

Thank you, Mr Barnett, for your input.


"John Barnett MVP" wrote:

WC the site has now been updated.

--

--
John Barnett MVP
Windows XP Associate Expert
Windows Desktop Experience

Web: http://www.winuser.co.uk
Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org

The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable
for
any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of
the
use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
mail/post..


"Wiley C" wrote in message
...
Dear Mr Barnett:
Thank you.

Please clarify this step:
"3/ After the upgrade has completed the following instruction will be
found
useful"
Do "the following instruction" refer to steps 4 - 16, or something
else?

You are certainly have more expertise and experience in this issue.
But
to
me, your solution seems to me to re-install Vista using the SP0 disk,
if
one
has upgraded to SP1.

Thanks for your time & knowledge.

Sincerely,
WC

"John Barnett MVP" wrote:

Check this link from my website:
http://www.winuser.co.uk/windows_vis...vista_dvd.html

--

--
John Barnett MVP
Windows XP Associate Expert
Windows Desktop Experience

Web: http://www.winuser.co.uk
Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org

The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of
any
kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the
accuracy,
reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be
liable
for
any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out
of
the
use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
mail/post..


"Wiley C" wrote in message
...
am familiar with the repair option, ' startup repair", from the
Vista
DVD,
or
from the OEM.
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...f3f351033.mspx

In XP, if a PC developed an error and the fix was to try a repair
installation, if the XP PC had been upgraded from, for example, SP0
to
SP1
and the user tried the repair using the XP SP1 installation CD [ not
an
upgrade CD ] [ for example http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315341 ],
messages
often appeared, informing the user that a file was missing.

If a user tries to repair Vista SP1, with a Vista SP0 DVD, does the
same
thing occur? If so, other than buying a Vista DVD, what can be done
to
fix
the issue?

Thanks for your time & comments.




  #15 (permalink)  
Old January 8th 09, 04:50 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Wiley C
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 49
Default Repairing Vista

Mr R:
Thank you for the information.

Will the previous folders, such as, but not limited to "users" folder and
"program files" remain in a side by side installation of Vista?

Thanks for your time.

WC

"Rick Rogers" wrote:

Then you have no repair options and will need to complete a side-by-side
installation. This you can do by not formatting during setup. The existing
installation will be moved to a windows.old folder where you can later
recover data from. You will not be able to recover installed software and
user accounts, these will need to be recreated. It won't matter what service
pack level disk you use for this.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"Wiley C" wrote in message
...
RR:
Thank you for the link. However, if the problem includes a BSOD of 0xf4
and
not being able to access Windows, your link will not work. I apologize
for
not including the limitation of not being able to access the desktop.

WC

"Rick Rogers" wrote:

Hi,

First, Vista does not offer a repair install like XP did due to a change
in
the way the installation is done. However, you can do an in-place upgrade
as
described he
http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/88...all-vista.html

Second, like with XP, you can't use an SP0 disk to install over or
upgrade
an SP1 installation. It has to be at the same or higher SP level. You
don't
need to buy a DVD though, just copy a friend's.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"Wiley C" wrote in message
...
am familiar with the repair option, ' startup repair", from the Vista
DVD,
or
from the OEM.
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...f3f351033.mspx

In XP, if a PC developed an error and the fix was to try a repair
installation, if the XP PC had been upgraded from, for example, SP0 to
SP1
and the user tried the repair using the XP SP1 installation CD [ not an
upgrade CD ] [ for example http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315341 ],
messages
often appeared, informing the user that a file was missing.

If a user tries to repair Vista SP1, with a Vista SP0 DVD, does the
same
thing occur? If so, other than buying a Vista DVD, what can be done to
fix
the issue?

Thanks for your time & comments.




 




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