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am familiar with the repair option, ' startup repair", from the Vista DVD, or
from the OEM. http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...f3f351033.mspx In XP, if a PC developed an error and the fix was to try a repair installation, if the XP PC had been upgraded from, for example, SP0 to SP1 and the user tried the repair using the XP SP1 installation CD [ not an upgrade CD ] [ for example http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315341 ], messages often appeared, informing the user that a file was missing. If a user tries to repair Vista SP1, with a Vista SP0 DVD, does the same thing occur? If so, other than buying a Vista DVD, what can be done to fix the issue? Thanks for your time & comments. |
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Hi,
First, Vista does not offer a repair install like XP did due to a change in the way the installation is done. However, you can do an in-place upgrade as described he http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/88...all-vista.html Second, like with XP, you can't use an SP0 disk to install over or upgrade an SP1 installation. It has to be at the same or higher SP level. You don't need to buy a DVD though, just copy a friend's. -- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Windows help - www.rickrogers.org My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com "Wiley C" wrote in message ... am familiar with the repair option, ' startup repair", from the Vista DVD, or from the OEM. http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...f3f351033.mspx In XP, if a PC developed an error and the fix was to try a repair installation, if the XP PC had been upgraded from, for example, SP0 to SP1 and the user tried the repair using the XP SP1 installation CD [ not an upgrade CD ] [ for example http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315341 ], messages often appeared, informing the user that a file was missing. If a user tries to repair Vista SP1, with a Vista SP0 DVD, does the same thing occur? If so, other than buying a Vista DVD, what can be done to fix the issue? Thanks for your time & comments. |
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Thank you.
:up: WC "Rick Rogers" wrote: Hi, First, Vista does not offer a repair install like XP did due to a change in the way the installation is done. However, you can do an in-place upgrade as described he http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/88...all-vista.html Second, like with XP, you can't use an SP0 disk to install over or upgrade an SP1 installation. It has to be at the same or higher SP level. You don't need to buy a DVD though, just copy a friend's. -- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Windows help - www.rickrogers.org My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com "Wiley C" wrote in message ... am familiar with the repair option, ' startup repair", from the Vista DVD, or from the OEM. http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...f3f351033.mspx In XP, if a PC developed an error and the fix was to try a repair installation, if the XP PC had been upgraded from, for example, SP0 to SP1 and the user tried the repair using the XP SP1 installation CD [ not an upgrade CD ] [ for example http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315341 ], messages often appeared, informing the user that a file was missing. If a user tries to repair Vista SP1, with a Vista SP0 DVD, does the same thing occur? If so, other than buying a Vista DVD, what can be done to fix the issue? Thanks for your time & comments. |
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First, Vista does not offer a repair install like XP did due to a change
in the way the installation is done. However, you can do an in-place upgrade as described he http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/88...all-vista.html Second, like with XP, you can't use an SP0 disk to install over or upgrade an SP1 installation. It has to be at the same or higher SP level. You don't need to buy a DVD though, just copy a friend's. FWIW, I've used XP media with an older service pack to do repair installs and then reinstalled the latest updates & service pack without problems - maybe I've been lucky? |
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Check this link from my website:
http://www.winuser.co.uk/windows_vis...vista_dvd.html -- -- John Barnett MVP Windows XP Associate Expert Windows Desktop Experience Web: http://www.winuser.co.uk Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this mail/post.. "Wiley C" wrote in message ... am familiar with the repair option, ' startup repair", from the Vista DVD, or from the OEM. http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...f3f351033.mspx In XP, if a PC developed an error and the fix was to try a repair installation, if the XP PC had been upgraded from, for example, SP0 to SP1 and the user tried the repair using the XP SP1 installation CD [ not an upgrade CD ] [ for example http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315341 ], messages often appeared, informing the user that a file was missing. If a user tries to repair Vista SP1, with a Vista SP0 DVD, does the same thing occur? If so, other than buying a Vista DVD, what can be done to fix the issue? Thanks for your time & comments. |
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Dear Mr Barnett:
Thank you. Please clarify this step: "3/ After the upgrade has completed the following instruction will be found useful" Do "the following instruction" refer to steps 4 - 16, or something else? You are certainly have more expertise and experience in this issue. But to me, your solution seems to me to re-install Vista using the SP0 disk, if one has upgraded to SP1. Thanks for your time & knowledge. Sincerely, WC "John Barnett MVP" wrote: Check this link from my website: http://www.winuser.co.uk/windows_vis...vista_dvd.html -- -- John Barnett MVP Windows XP Associate Expert Windows Desktop Experience Web: http://www.winuser.co.uk Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this mail/post.. "Wiley C" wrote in message ... am familiar with the repair option, ' startup repair", from the Vista DVD, or from the OEM. http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...f3f351033.mspx In XP, if a PC developed an error and the fix was to try a repair installation, if the XP PC had been upgraded from, for example, SP0 to SP1 and the user tried the repair using the XP SP1 installation CD [ not an upgrade CD ] [ for example http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315341 ], messages often appeared, informing the user that a file was missing. If a user tries to repair Vista SP1, with a Vista SP0 DVD, does the same thing occur? If so, other than buying a Vista DVD, what can be done to fix the issue? Thanks for your time & comments. |
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Sorry WC I suppose I should have changed the numbering sequences to read
3.1, 3.2, 3.3 etc. This I will do as soon as I can. Unfortunately this is a brand new website and I am experiencing a few niggling problems which are taking more time than I expected to iron out. However, in answer to your question the "3/ After the upgrade has completed the following instruction will be found useful" 'the following instructions' do refer to item 4 to 16. This is basically because you will be asked to activate the system once again. As for the version of the installation DVD if you have purchased a copy of Vista which already contains SP1 then, by all means, you can ignore my comment regarding uninstalling SP1. If, on the other hand, you 'updated' via windows update etc to SP1 you will need to uninstall SP1 because your original DVD will complain that a higher version of Vista is installed and will therefore refuse to do the necessary upgrade. Once again my apologies for the confusion -- -- John Barnett MVP Windows XP Associate Expert Windows Desktop Experience Web: http://www.winuser.co.uk Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this mail/post.. "Wiley C" wrote in message ... Dear Mr Barnett: Thank you. Please clarify this step: "3/ After the upgrade has completed the following instruction will be found useful" Do "the following instruction" refer to steps 4 - 16, or something else? You are certainly have more expertise and experience in this issue. But to me, your solution seems to me to re-install Vista using the SP0 disk, if one has upgraded to SP1. Thanks for your time & knowledge. Sincerely, WC "John Barnett MVP" wrote: Check this link from my website: http://www.winuser.co.uk/windows_vis...vista_dvd.html -- -- John Barnett MVP Windows XP Associate Expert Windows Desktop Experience Web: http://www.winuser.co.uk Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this mail/post.. "Wiley C" wrote in message ... am familiar with the repair option, ' startup repair", from the Vista DVD, or from the OEM. http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...f3f351033.mspx In XP, if a PC developed an error and the fix was to try a repair installation, if the XP PC had been upgraded from, for example, SP0 to SP1 and the user tried the repair using the XP SP1 installation CD [ not an upgrade CD ] [ for example http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315341 ], messages often appeared, informing the user that a file was missing. If a user tries to repair Vista SP1, with a Vista SP0 DVD, does the same thing occur? If so, other than buying a Vista DVD, what can be done to fix the issue? Thanks for your time & comments. |
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WC the site has now been updated.
-- -- John Barnett MVP Windows XP Associate Expert Windows Desktop Experience Web: http://www.winuser.co.uk Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this mail/post.. "Wiley C" wrote in message ... Dear Mr Barnett: Thank you. Please clarify this step: "3/ After the upgrade has completed the following instruction will be found useful" Do "the following instruction" refer to steps 4 - 16, or something else? You are certainly have more expertise and experience in this issue. But to me, your solution seems to me to re-install Vista using the SP0 disk, if one has upgraded to SP1. Thanks for your time & knowledge. Sincerely, WC "John Barnett MVP" wrote: Check this link from my website: http://www.winuser.co.uk/windows_vis...vista_dvd.html -- -- John Barnett MVP Windows XP Associate Expert Windows Desktop Experience Web: http://www.winuser.co.uk Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this mail/post.. "Wiley C" wrote in message ... am familiar with the repair option, ' startup repair", from the Vista DVD, or from the OEM. http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...f3f351033.mspx In XP, if a PC developed an error and the fix was to try a repair installation, if the XP PC had been upgraded from, for example, SP0 to SP1 and the user tried the repair using the XP SP1 installation CD [ not an upgrade CD ] [ for example http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315341 ], messages often appeared, informing the user that a file was missing. If a user tries to repair Vista SP1, with a Vista SP0 DVD, does the same thing occur? If so, other than buying a Vista DVD, what can be done to fix the issue? Thanks for your time & comments. |
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Dear Victek:
Thank you for the link. However, if the problem includes a BSOD of 0xf4 and not being able to access Windows, your link will not work. I apologize for not including the limitation of not being able to access the desktop. WC "Victek" wrote: First, Vista does not offer a repair install like XP did due to a change in the way the installation is done. However, you can do an in-place upgrade as described he http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/88...all-vista.html Second, like with XP, you can't use an SP0 disk to install over or upgrade an SP1 installation. It has to be at the same or higher SP level. You don't need to buy a DVD though, just copy a friend's. FWIW, I've used XP media with an older service pack to do repair installs and then reinstalled the latest updates & service pack without problems - maybe I've been lucky? |
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RR:
Thank you for the link. However, if the problem includes a BSOD of 0xf4 and not being able to access Windows, your link will not work. I apologize for not including the limitation of not being able to access the desktop. WC "Rick Rogers" wrote: Hi, First, Vista does not offer a repair install like XP did due to a change in the way the installation is done. However, you can do an in-place upgrade as described he http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/88...all-vista.html Second, like with XP, you can't use an SP0 disk to install over or upgrade an SP1 installation. It has to be at the same or higher SP level. You don't need to buy a DVD though, just copy a friend's. -- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Windows help - www.rickrogers.org My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com "Wiley C" wrote in message ... am familiar with the repair option, ' startup repair", from the Vista DVD, or from the OEM. http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...f3f351033.mspx In XP, if a PC developed an error and the fix was to try a repair installation, if the XP PC had been upgraded from, for example, SP0 to SP1 and the user tried the repair using the XP SP1 installation CD [ not an upgrade CD ] [ for example http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315341 ], messages often appeared, informing the user that a file was missing. If a user tries to repair Vista SP1, with a Vista SP0 DVD, does the same thing occur? If so, other than buying a Vista DVD, what can be done to fix the issue? Thanks for your time & comments. |
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