Got a new Vista laptop last year which was a terrible mistake. I have not
been happy with it at all. My problem is the computer takes a full 10
minutes to complete starting up. I assumed this was because it was short on
memory and was paging like nuts. It only came with 1 gig. So I upgraded it
to 4 gig but to my surprise, this did not make much of a difference. It
still takes several minutes to finish starting up. So to track down the
offending program, I disabled all non-microsoft services and all startup
items. So now my bare bones system still takes several minutes to finsh
chugging on the hard drive and get to a point where I can do anything. So
it looks like Windows itself is the offending program. So my question here
is what the heck is wrong with Vista that it takes so long to come up? It
has always been my theory that the default shutdown option was changed to
stand-by because of this 10 minute start-up but there has got to be
something that can be done about it. Any input?

Thanks
Pete

On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 12:53:57 -0500, "Peter Dickason"
wrote:

So my question here
is what the heck is wrong with Vista that it takes so long to come up? It
has always been my theory that the default shutdown option was changed to
stand-by because of this 10 minute start-up but there has got to be
something that can be done about it. Any input?

The problem you're having is not a universal one, maybe not even one
with enough occurrence on other machines to be significant.

Translation: it's not Windows, it's something about your machine and
its configuration and the software that is running at startup.

Max

"Peter Dickason" wrote in message
...
Got a new Vista laptop last year which was a terrible mistake. I have not
been happy with it at all. My problem is the computer takes a full 10
minutes to complete starting up. I assumed this was because it was short
on memory and was paging like nuts. It only came with 1 gig. So I
upgraded it to 4 gig but to my surprise, this did not make much of a
difference. It still takes several minutes to finish starting up. So to
track down the offending program, I disabled all non-microsoft services
and all startup items. So now my bare bones system still takes several
minutes to finsh chugging on the hard drive and get to a point where I can
do anything. So it looks like Windows itself is the offending program.
So my question here is what the heck is wrong with Vista that it takes so
long to come up? It has always been my theory that the default shutdown
option was changed to stand-by because of this 10 minute start-up but
there has got to be something that can be done about it. Any input?

Thanks
Pete



Vista does not generally take 10 minutes to start unless there is incorrect
interaction between drivers and hardware or a hardware fault.. Have you ever
had the machine checked professionally for hardware errors?

--
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How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
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Mike's Window - My Blog..
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All you have to do is google vista and slow startup and you will see that
this is a common issue. It's not my machine. It's been like this out of
the box which is the frustrating part to spend so much money on a system not
up to par. I was hoping to get some advise about speeding it up instead of
statements that it's my hardware. I've already made sure drivers were up to
date and that there were no other errors. I did finally find what makes
Vista slow. The Windows search, superfetch and readyboost. After disabling
all of those, my system starts up and is usable in minutes which is more
acceptable. I can live with a search taking the time when I search and have
apps take a little longer to load rather than have poor performance at all
other times.


Pete

"Peter Dickason" wrote in message
...
All you have to do is google vista and slow startup and you will see that
this is a common issue. It's not my machine. It's been like this out of
the box which is the frustrating part to spend so much money on a system
not up to par. I was hoping to get some advise about speeding it up
instead of statements that it's my hardware. I've already made sure
drivers were up to date and that there were no other errors. I did
finally find what makes Vista slow. The Windows search, superfetch and
readyboost. After disabling all of those, my system starts up and is
usable in minutes which is more acceptable. I can live with a search
taking the time when I search and have apps take a little longer to load
rather than have poor performance at all other times.


Pete


Except that some systems have all of those enabled and still the machine
boots up in less than 10 minutes.. mine for instance..


--
Mike Hall - MVP
How to construct a good post..
http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
http://support.microsoft.com/default...help&style=toc
Mike's Window - My Blog..
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

Pete,

Vista is a real dog and a hog of an OS.

Lets hope windows 7 gets it right!

Cheers

Ron


"Peter Dickason" wrote in message
...
Got a new Vista laptop last year which was a terrible mistake. I have not
been happy with it at all. My problem is the computer takes a full 10
minutes to complete starting up. I assumed this was because it was short
on memory and was paging like nuts. It only came with 1 gig. So I
upgraded it to 4 gig but to my surprise, this did not make much of a
difference. It still takes several minutes to finish starting up. So to
track down the offending program, I disabled all non-microsoft services
and all startup items. So now my bare bones system still takes several
minutes to finsh chugging on the hard drive and get to a point where I can
do anything. So it looks like Windows itself is the offending program.
So my question here is what the heck is wrong with Vista that it takes so
long to come up? It has always been my theory that the default shutdown
option was changed to stand-by because of this 10 minute start-up but
there has got to be something that can be done about it. Any input?

Thanks
Pete

Peter Dickason;930721 Wrote:
All you have to do is google vista and slow startup and you will see
that
this is a common issue. It's not my machine. It's been like this out
of
the box which is the frustrating part to spend so much money on a
system not
up to par. I was hoping to get some advise about speeding it up
instead of
statements that it's my hardware. I've already made sure drivers were
up to
date and that there were no other errors. I did finally find what
makes
Vista slow. The Windows search, superfetch and readyboost. After
disabling
all of those, my system starts up and is usable in minutes which is
more
acceptable. I can live with a search taking the time when I search and
have
apps take a little longer to load rather than have poor performance at
all
other times.


Pete


Except that some systems have all of those enabled and still the machine
boots up in less than 10 minutes.. mine for instance..


--
Mike Hall - MVPI have a relatively modest desktop pc ( 2gb Ram ).

Vista Home Premium x64 starts up in less than 40 seconds.

If you're sure it's not a hardware problem - have you tried
reinstalling the o/s ?

SIW2


--
SIW2

A lot of 3rd party software will start at startup be default, unless changed.
Things like MSN messenger, skype, Quicktime, etc.

And if you are using Norton, Trend or McAfee, that in itself is a problem.
--
Mad Mike


"Peter Dickason" wrote:

All you have to do is google vista and slow startup and you will see that
this is a common issue. It's not my machine. It's been like this out of
the box which is the frustrating part to spend so much money on a system not
up to par. I was hoping to get some advise about speeding it up instead of
statements that it's my hardware. I've already made sure drivers were up to
date and that there were no other errors. I did finally find what makes
Vista slow. The Windows search, superfetch and readyboost. After disabling
all of those, my system starts up and is usable in minutes which is more
acceptable. I can live with a search taking the time when I search and have
apps take a little longer to load rather than have poor performance at all
other times.


Pete

Yes I realize those A/V sotware's have evolved into a bunch of bloat which
is why I use Avast. But it's not that. In my first post I decared that I
have already tried turning of everything!

I used to like Trend myself but it has gone by way of Norton and has become
a hog as well.

Pete



"Mick Murphy" wrote in message
...
A lot of 3rd party software will start at startup be default, unless
changed.
Things like MSN messenger, skype, Quicktime, etc.

And if you are using Norton, Trend or McAfee, that in itself is a problem.
--
Mad Mike


"Peter Dickason" wrote:

All you have to do is google vista and slow startup and you will see that
this is a common issue. It's not my machine. It's been like this out of
the box which is the frustrating part to spend so much money on a system
not
up to par. I was hoping to get some advise about speeding it up instead
of
statements that it's my hardware. I've already made sure drivers were up
to
date and that there were no other errors. I did finally find what makes
Vista slow. The Windows search, superfetch and readyboost. After
disabling
all of those, my system starts up and is usable in minutes which is more
acceptable. I can live with a search taking the time when I search and
have
apps take a little longer to load rather than have poor performance at
all
other times.


Pete

So what do you recommend? This laptop has an AMD Turion64x2 chip with 4 gig
of memory so I would have thought it would scream. I hate to spend $150 to
upgrade to Vista 64 since I have to reason to go to 64 bit. I have no 64
bit apps and I have no reason to go over 4 gig of memory. Nor could this
laptop hold any more than 4 gig.

thx
Pete