no. you'd need to filter out the replies from anyone that doesn't know the
damage they did.
You didn't need one in XP, either.

Check out a few of the notes from MS personnel. - or a referred tech
support.

Anyone with actual practical knowledge in tech support should have been
trained to NEVER use these things. Some do anyway.
I take my leave when anyone says they use one, or speak about something
else.
In my opinion, using a registry cleaner is akin to going into the registry
manually and guessing which entries to delete.
You just made Best Buys boys a few bucks richer.

I tried a couple when I was using Win98, and found they didn't improve
anything, and caused future problems.
Since I have never used one again, I have had absolutely no Windows crashes.
I have downloaded, tested, and crashed other programs, (which I do
frequently) but have not had Windows XP or Vista crash, and I have never
re-installed.


"nelsonsdavis" wrote in message
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YES.

And why do you ask?

If in doubt, do a google search and make up your on mind.


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Do a Google search? Hmmmm, I did and ended up here. Go figure. Last
time I check this forum was for question and answers on Vista. I guess
this is why I asked.


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avgwarhawk

Use auslogics registry defrag.
It will reduce the size of the registry by deleting obsolete keys and
orphaned entries.
'Auslogics - Download Auslogics Registry Defrag'
(http://www.auslogics.com/en/software...efrag/download)


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dinesh

Hope that works ! ! !
Dinesh.

Thanks a million! The program works great and you can't beat the price.


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avgwarhawk

I've tested many registry cleaners and each one came up with different
problems. There are so many false positives that, in the end, the user
hasn't got a clue which registry entries to remove. I even had an email from
one user who used a registry cleaner and it stopped his computer dead. As
I've said time and time again, if you can't manually edit the registry,
whereby you know exactly what you aim to remove, then leave well alone and
keep well away from registry cleaners.


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"Ralph" wrote in message
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no. you'd need to filter out the replies from anyone that doesn't know
the damage they did.
You didn't need one in XP, either.

Check out a few of the notes from MS personnel. - or a referred tech
support.

Anyone with actual practical knowledge in tech support should have been
trained to NEVER use these things. Some do anyway.
I take my leave when anyone says they use one, or speak about something
else.
In my opinion, using a registry cleaner is akin to going into the registry
manually and guessing which entries to delete.
You just made Best Buys boys a few bucks richer.

I tried a couple when I was using Win98, and found they didn't improve
anything, and caused future problems.
Since I have never used one again, I have had absolutely no Windows
crashes.
I have downloaded, tested, and crashed other programs, (which I do
frequently) but have not had Windows XP or Vista crash, and I have never
re-installed.


"nelsonsdavis" wrote in message
...

YES.

And why do you ask?

If in doubt, do a google search and make up your on mind.


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avgwarhawk;936209 Wrote:
Thanks a million! The program works great and you can't beat the price.
Your Welcome avgwarhawk...


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dinesh

avgwarhawk wrote:
Does Vista require a registry cleaner such as RegClean or any other
third party registry cleaner?




Vista requires the exactly the same sort of registry "cleaning" as
Win2K and WinXP: *NONE*

Why do you even think you'd ever need to clean your registry? What
specific *problems* are you actually experiencing (not some program's
bogus listing of imaginary problems) that you think can be fixed by
using a registry "cleaner?"

If you do have a problem that is rooted in the registry, it would
be far better to simply edit (after backing up, of course) only the
specific key(s) and/or value(s) that are causing the problem. After
all, why use a chainsaw when a scalpel will do the job? Additionally,
the manually changing of one or two registry entries is far less likely
to have the dire consequences of allowing an automated product to make
multiple changes simultaneously. The only thing needed to safely clean
your registry is knowledge and Regedit.exe.

The registry contains all of the operating system's "knowledge" of
the computer's hardware devices, installed software, the location of the
device drivers, and the computer's configuration. A misstep in the
registry can have severe consequences. One should not even turning
loose a poorly understood automated "cleaner," unless he is fully
confident that he knows *exactly* what is going to happen as a result of
each and every change.

Having repeatedly seen the results of inexperienced people using
automated registry "cleaners," I can only advise all but the most
experienced computer technicians (and/or hobbyists) to avoid them all.
Experience has shown me that such tools simply are not safe in the hands
of the inexperienced user. If you lack the knowledge and experience to
maintain your registry by yourself, then you also lack the knowledge and
experience to safely configure and use any automated registry cleaner,
no matter how safe they claim to be.

More importantly, no one has ever demonstrated that the use of an
automated registry "cleaner," particularly by an untrained,
inexperienced computer user, does any real good, whatsoever. There's
certainly been no empirical evidence offered to demonstrate that the use
of such products to "clean" WinXP's registry improves a computer's
performance or stability. Given the potential for harm, it's just not
worth the risk.

Granted, most registry "cleaners" won't cause problems each and
every time they're used, but the potential for harm is always there.
And, since no registry "cleaner" has ever been demonstrated to do any
good (think of them like treating the flu with chicken soup - there's no
real medicinal value, but it sometimes provides a warming placebo
effect), I always tell people that the risks far out-weigh the
non-existent benefits.

I will concede that a good registry *scanning* tool, in the hands
of an experienced and knowledgeable technician or hobbyist can be a
useful time-saving diagnostic tool, as long as it's not allowed to make
any changes automatically. But I really don't think that there are any
registry "cleaners" that are truly safe for the general public to use.
Experience has proven just the opposite: such tools simply are not safe
in the hands of the inexperienced user.

A little further reading on the subject:

Why I don't use registry cleaners
http://www.edbott.com/weblog/?p=643

AumHa Forums • View topic - AUMHA Discussion: Should I Use a Registry
Cleaner?
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099



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nelsonsdavis wrote:
Why not? Use CCleaner - it has a good built in reg cleaner.




There is no such thing as a "good" (meaning useful or beneficial)
registry cleaner, free or otherwise. Some are less harmful than others,
but because they're all nothing but snake oil, I won't recommend any.

Granted, CCleaner's registry scanner seems relatively benign, as long
as you step through each detected "issue" (almost all of which will be
bogus) one at a time, to determine if it really is an "issue" or not,
and then decide whether or not to let the application "fix" it. In my
testing, though, most of the reported "issues" won't be issues, at all.
I tried the latest version on a brand-new OS installation with no
additional applications installed, and certainly none installed and then
uninstalled, and CCleaner still managed to "find" over a hundred
allegedly orphaned registry entries and dozens of purportedly
"suspicious" files. Its findings were utter nonsense, in plain terms.

CCleaner's only real strength, and the only reason I use it, lies
in its usefulness for cleaning up unused temporary files from the hard
drive; as a registry "cleaner," it's not significantly different from
any other snake oil product of the same type.


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nelsonsdavis wrote:
YES.


That is utterly and completely wrong. Are you deliberately given bad
advice?

And why do you ask?


Because he's smart enough to "look before he leaps," perhaps?



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dinesh;935985 Wrote:
Use auslogics registry defrag.
It will reduce the size of the registry by deleting obsolete keys and
orphaned entries.
'Auslogics - Download Auslogics Registry Defrag'
(http://www.auslogics.com/en/software...efrag/download)

I have Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 and tried Auslogic Registry Defrag
thinking that if it works as well as their Disk Defrag then its ok. Well
after running it, I discovered that it disabled my STacSV.exe file for
Audio Service and wiped out my System Restore points going back 3 weeks
so unable to reset at least the registry after I ran the program. I
should have backed up just the registry...but I was thinking that a
"defrag" program would be different than a "cleaner" whereby keys and
hives are put back in the order they should be and not deleted or
removed. So anyone using Auslogics registry defrag for Vista x64 SP1
check some things out or better yet...back up just the registry! I
learned something...again:shock:


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