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Vista...? Proceed with caution!
Hertz_Donut wrote:
"Paul-B" wrote in message ... Hertz_Donut wrote: "Alias" wrote in message ... Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin] wrote: Apple also uses DRM in their software, how you think they got Hollywood and the Music Industry to sell their stuff through through the iTunes Store? Also, Apple also locks into its own DRM technology for example the proprietary AAC codec the iPod uses. I guess that leaves Linux. Alias No, it just means that there are still idiots that think Linux is the answer... Honu Tell us what the question is and we can then see if, indeed, Linux is the answer. For instance, if the question were to be "What o/s can I install which is free, quick and easy to install, fast, has bundled with it apps which can be used to run an average office workstation, and can run on a minimum-spec pc" what, I wonder would the answer be? I know one thing it wouldn't be, and that is "Any flavour of Windows". -- Paul-B Okay, here is a question: What OS can I install the does not require me to hunt for drivers for my hardware, does not require the knowledge and use of arcane commands, and can run the 70,000 + software programs currently available for the Windows platform? Would you honestly recommend Linux to someone who uses the crutch of AOL? Linux, while it has it's place, is definitely not a candidate to replace Windows. Honu. OK, I never said, nor do I believe that any flavour of Linux is a candidate to replace Windows. However, with the restrictions and pricing levels Microsoft is currently applying to Windows there are a whole host of applications where Linux can perform as well, if not better than Windows. Let's take the question of drivers. There is no o/s currently available which does not require the installer to hunt for drivers, and that includes Windows Vista. I was amazed when I installed Ubuntu on one of my PC's to find that every driver I required was automatically installed. It picked-up my SATA driver, all my chipset drivers, my wireless network card driver, installed them and was a completed setup in about 20 minutes. The very same PC (the one I'm using at present) was a pig to set-up with Vista RTM... it didn't see the SATA drives (Ali chipset), once I had installed the SATA drivers it took over 40 minutes to install, and I had to go hunt for the soundcard and the wireless card drivers. The PC spec is fairly modest, just a Gigabyte of memory and an Athlon XP2500 processor. Vista runs, but isn't very fast, in fact it's slower than XP on the same machine. Ubuntu, OTOH, loads and runs much faster than both Microsoft products. In fact, it's ideal for use as a general office workstation, which is where Ubuntu/Kubuntu come into their own. I work as a freelance IT Consultant to sme's here in the UK. By far the majority of my clients... accountants, architects, builders etc have a requirement for simple workstations which will run Wordprocessors, Spreadsheets, Presentation software, email clients, web-browsers and the like. Supplying them with a standard Ubuntu-based workstation saves them around 600/800 UKP over the Windows/Microsoft equivalent, a considerable saving for something which is a basic tool. I put in a few demo systems and you'd be surprised how much my clients get to like them. Now we're looking at servers. Linux comes into it's own for small-business server apps, and I can see it becoming a definite challenge to the Microsoft stuff in this field, given the rocketing price of the hardware and the software required for Microsoft-based systems. Linux is already supplied in many embedded-systems equipment and I believe the majority of commercial servers running, say, Apache are Linux-based. For a small business with a network consisting of a server and 20-40 workstations, using their server for mail/web/file serving applications Linux is a definite candidate, performing beautifully in this environment at zero cost. I'm not, as I said, saying that Linux will replace Microsoft, any more than, say, OS/X will, but it has it's place. As for Vista, at the moment there is no way I will recommend any of my clients to switch or upgrade when they buy their new software. It's expensive, and it still has huge problems compared with XP. Like XP, I presume after Vista SP1 or SP2 it will become attractive, as XP itself did. You have to admit that XP was a pig until SP1, some even say SP2. I know it took me a fair while to finally go over from W2K to WXP, W2K was such a huge improvement on W98SE I used it from the start, but not so the later XP. -- Paul-B |
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The problem with DRM is that it is all proprietary. I can buy a television
and pick up the picture and sound from any station. I don't need a different television set for each provider. That's how DRM should work - competitively rather than proprietarily. The only end result of the current practice will be limited competition and possibly even a DRM monopoly. All DRM standards should be made publicly available. When you argue that DRM creators have costs involved and shouldn't have to make them publicly available, remember that television standards and even HDTV standard weren't created by the FCC, they were created by the industry and then the FCC selected/approved/forced down our throats the standard they thought was best. In any case, the manufacturers and broadcast industry bore the cost of the public standard and they're making money. That's what should be done with DRM. Dale "Howard Kelley" wrote in message ... Those who want to rob banks are always going to find a way of doing it...therefore should we not lock up the banks at night? I realize having tellers in the bank inconvenience and cost innocent people who otherwise should be able to bank on the honor system. DRM is not evil..neither are locks. "ChrisM" wrote: ....All it (Vista) is going to do is inconvenience and cost innocent people. Those that want to make illegal copies are always going to find ways of doing it... |
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Troy McClure wrote:
not really. doesnt have too much to do with the os. its the file type and media thats involved While that may or may not be the case, try running a media center without content protection. I use this at home and because there is no content protection software in my setup, everything just works and I have no idea if the channel or program I am watching at any given time is content protected. It all just works and setup was a breeze. Mythdora: http://www.mythpvr.com/mythtv/mythdo...all/howto.html "Alias" wrote in message ... Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin] wrote: Apple also uses DRM in their software, how you think they got Hollywood and the Music Industry to sell their stuff through through the iTunes Store? Also, Apple also locks into its own DRM technology for example the proprietary AAC codec the iPod uses. I guess that leaves Linux. Alias -- Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group: http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html "Good poets borrow; great poets steal." - T. S. Eliot -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Isn't this what Global Fair & Open Trade is supposed to bring... lower
priced goods for consumers worldwide, not just cheap labor for corporations? So where is fair global bounty for US workers/consumers? More and more, corporate protectionism embezzles living-wages then wants to loan you the difference. But this forum is about Vista. Vista DRM will help you find the best prices on legal digital content within the global market arena, right? "Roscoe" wrote in message ... No kidding. When you can download songs at .06 a pop, you gotta think something is not quite kosher. "Peter M" wrote in message ... AllofMp3 is in it's own hot water at the moment with other like sites no doubt to follow. US Music Publishers Sue AllofMP3 for $1.65 Trillion By Scott M. Fulton, III, BetaNews December 21, 2006, 6:44 PM In a move curious only due to its relatively late timing, the major record production labels in the US have filed suit in federal court against Russian online music distributor AllofMP3.com, seeking $150,000 USD for each single violation of copyright infringement for tracks the site posted without authorization. "ChrisM" wrote in message ... Hi Andre, I don't really understand your point. I know that DRM rears its ugly head in many places these days, and certainly not least Apple and iPod etc. However, the effects of this are fairly minimal, and can be fairly easily go around if required (eg by using MP3s and not AAC files, and using AllOfMP3 rather than iTunes) |
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Unless you have a widescreen laptop with wi-fi, but those are pretty rare.
"Alias" wrote in message ... Hertz_Donut wrote: "Paul-B" wrote in message ... Hertz_Donut wrote: "Alias" wrote in message ... Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin] wrote: Apple also uses DRM in their software, how you think they got Hollywood and the Music Industry to sell their stuff through through the iTunes Store? Also, Apple also locks into its own DRM technology for example the proprietary AAC codec the iPod uses. I guess that leaves Linux. Alias No, it just means that there are still idiots that think Linux is the answer... Honu Tell us what the question is and we can then see if, indeed, Linux is the answer. For instance, if the question were to be "What o/s can I install which is free, quick and easy to install, fast, has bundled with it apps which can be used to run an average office workstation, and can run on a minimum-spec pc" what, I wonder would the answer be? I know one thing it wouldn't be, and that is "Any flavour of Windows". -- Paul-B Okay, here is a question: What OS can I install the does not require me to hunt for drivers for my hardware, Ubuntu. does not require the knowledge and use of arcane commands, Ubuntu. and can run the 70,000 + software programs currently available for the Windows platform? There are more for the Ubuntu platform, all free, unlike most of what's written for Windows. Would you honestly recommend Linux to someone who uses the crutch of AOL? Ubuntu, yes. Linux, while it has it's place, is definitely not a candidate to replace Windows. Honu. Where have you been, under a rock? Try Ubuntu and see if you feel the same way. Linux isn't just for geeks anymore. Alias |
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Chris wrote:
Unless you have a widescreen laptop with wi-fi, but those are pretty rare. I don't know about the widescreen but Ubuntu supports wi-fi. Alias "Alias" wrote in message ... Hertz_Donut wrote: "Paul-B" wrote in message ... Hertz_Donut wrote: "Alias" wrote in message ... Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin] wrote: Apple also uses DRM in their software, how you think they got Hollywood and the Music Industry to sell their stuff through through the iTunes Store? Also, Apple also locks into its own DRM technology for example the proprietary AAC codec the iPod uses. I guess that leaves Linux. Alias No, it just means that there are still idiots that think Linux is the answer... Honu Tell us what the question is and we can then see if, indeed, Linux is the answer. For instance, if the question were to be "What o/s can I install which is free, quick and easy to install, fast, has bundled with it apps which can be used to run an average office workstation, and can run on a minimum-spec pc" what, I wonder would the answer be? I know one thing it wouldn't be, and that is "Any flavour of Windows". -- Paul-B Okay, here is a question: What OS can I install the does not require me to hunt for drivers for my hardware, Ubuntu. does not require the knowledge and use of arcane commands, Ubuntu. and can run the 70,000 + software programs currently available for the Windows platform? There are more for the Ubuntu platform, all free, unlike most of what's written for Windows. Would you honestly recommend Linux to someone who uses the crutch of AOL? Ubuntu, yes. Linux, while it has it's place, is definitely not a candidate to replace Windows. Honu. Where have you been, under a rock? Try Ubuntu and see if you feel the same way. Linux isn't just for geeks anymore. Alias |
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Alias wrote:
Chris wrote: Unless you have a widescreen laptop with wi-fi, but those are pretty rare. I don't know about the widescreen but Ubuntu supports wi-fi. Who cares? Ubuntu sounds like another Nigerian scam. |
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On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 13:22:00 +0100, Alias wrote:
Chris wrote: Unless you have a widescreen laptop with wi-fi, but those are pretty rare. I don't know about the widescreen but Ubuntu supports wi-fi. Linux supports widescreen, too. |
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HeyBub wrote:
Alias wrote: Chris wrote: Unless you have a widescreen laptop with wi-fi, but those are pretty rare. I don't know about the widescreen but Ubuntu supports wi-fi. Who cares? Ubuntu sounds like another Nigerian scam. And you sound like you're ignorant and ill-informed. Most Texans display some level of education. |