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Vista...? Proceed with caution!



 
 
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Old January 8th 07, 09:32 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general,microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices,microsoft.public.windows.vista.music_pictures_video
Colin Barnhorst
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Default Vista...? Proceed with caution!

I am a UT Arlington alumnus. Are you Texas educated also?

"Theo" wrote in message
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HeyBub wrote:
Alias wrote:
Chris wrote:
Unless you have a widescreen laptop with wi-fi, but those are pretty
rare.
I don't know about the widescreen but Ubuntu supports wi-fi.


Who cares? Ubuntu sounds like another Nigerian scam.


And you sound like you're ignorant and ill-informed.

Most Texans display some level of education.


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Old January 8th 07, 11:00 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general,microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices,microsoft.public.windows.vista.music_pictures_video
Chris
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In what way? I have tried both the latest Ubuntu and Fedora and neither
worked with my wide screen Dell using an ATI 1400 chip. Neither worked with
Wi-Fi either. I know there are "solutions" but non are particularly easy to
implement. I did read that Suse had the ATI drivers in the repository, but
with the other two I was going to have to do some heavy tweaking to get
either to work.

"arachnid" wrote in message
newsan.2007.01.08.16.06.09.136975@goawayspammers .com...
On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 13:22:00 +0100, Alias wrote:

Chris wrote:
Unless you have a widescreen laptop with wi-fi, but those are pretty
rare.


I don't know about the widescreen but Ubuntu supports wi-fi.


Linux supports widescreen, too.


  #33 (permalink)  
Old January 9th 07, 12:32 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general,microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices,microsoft.public.windows.vista.music_pictures_video
Alias
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Default Vista...? Proceed with caution!

HeyBub wrote:
Alias wrote:
Chris wrote:
Unless you have a widescreen laptop with wi-fi, but those are pretty
rare.

I don't know about the widescreen but Ubuntu supports wi-fi.


Who cares? Ubuntu sounds like another Nigerian scam.



Revealing yourself to be a racist in public, eh?

Alias
  #34 (permalink)  
Old January 9th 07, 02:11 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general,microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices,microsoft.public.windows.vista.music_pictures_video
arachnid
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On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 17:00:13 -0600, Chris wrote:

In what way? I have tried both the latest Ubuntu and Fedora and neither
worked with my wide screen Dell using an ATI 1400 chip. Neither worked
with Wi-Fi either. I know there are "solutions" but non are particularly
easy to implement. I did read that Suse had the ATI drivers in the
repository, but with the other two I was going to have to do some heavy
tweaking to get either to work.


For WiFi I installed network-manager-gnome and it just worked. Of course,
things are only that easy if you have fully Linux-compatible hardware.
Incompatible hardware takes a little more work. )

Many incompatible wifi cards are the wifi equivalent of winmodems - they
use firmware that runs only under Windows, and the wifi manufacturers
won't provide Linux-native firmware or reveal the specifications that
Linux developers need to write their own. You can still get many of these
to work using ndiswrapper (which uses the device's Windows drivers) or by
purchasing a commercial driver from http://www.linuxant.com/driverloader.

My widescreen display and ATI graphics card were supported to the proper
resolution right out of the box, but the generic open-source ati driver
doesn't do 3D. For that you have to install ATI's proprietary fglrx
driver. The easiest way to accomplish that is to install automatix and
then use the fglrx button. You'll want automatix anyway to install other
useful things like mp3 players, codecs, etc.

Canonical has announced that future versions of Ubuntu will come with
proprietary drivers either bundled (if the driver license allows it) or
downloadable/installable via a one-click installer. That was probably
prompted by Mint Linux http://linuxmint.com. Mint is just Ubuntu with
proprietary drivers added to the installer, plus a few other changes made
that Ubuntu users have been clamoring for but Canonical didn't feel
like implementing.

We see this all the time in Linux - a project isn't responsive enough to
some group of its users so they fork it into their own project. To keep
from losing control to the new fork, the original project incorporates its
new features. The fork is then no longer needed and dies, full control is
restored to the original project, and now its users have the new features
they wanted.

Imagine how much different things would be if Windows users could fork
Vista! :-)

  #35 (permalink)  
Old January 9th 07, 02:27 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general,microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices,microsoft.public.windows.vista.music_pictures_video
Randy
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Default Vista...? Proceed with caution!

I just received a 50 million USD email-offer from Saddam's first daughter,
Raghad Hussein. She's in Jordan but needs my help to bring the money from
the UK to the US. I wanted to offer her 100 billion USD and reverse the scam
but I don't take advantage of women... well, not anymore... much. Odd, a
phone/dsl offer was attached to her email all in German. Anyway, I checked
my Vista 'People Near Me' and Raghad is not anywhere near me. So I turned
her over to 'Vista Security Center' and they said their international
'Windows Defender' would handle the matter, probably through 'Parental
Controls.' I told them I'd like to 'Lock her Bits with my Drive Encryption'
but something was askew with my 'iSCSI Initiator' so, that ended with a
sudden BSOD. Sigh. I was hoping for a 'QuickTime.'


"Alias" wrote in message
...
HeyBub wrote:
Alias wrote:
Chris wrote:
Unless you have a widescreen laptop with wi-fi, but those are pretty
rare.
I don't know about the widescreen but Ubuntu supports wi-fi.


Who cares? Ubuntu sounds like another Nigerian scam.


Revealing yourself to be a racist in public, eh?

Alias


  #36 (permalink)  
Old January 9th 07, 11:53 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general,microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices,microsoft.public.windows.vista.music_pictures_video
Theo
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Default Vista...? Proceed with caution!

I lived in El Paso for several years and I think my
sister-in-law is a UTEP alumnus.

Colin Barnhorst wrote:
I am a UT Arlington alumnus. Are you Texas educated also?

"Theo" wrote in message
...
HeyBub wrote:
Alias wrote:
Chris wrote:
Unless you have a widescreen laptop with wi-fi, but those are pretty
rare.
I don't know about the widescreen but Ubuntu supports wi-fi.


Who cares? Ubuntu sounds like another Nigerian scam.


And you sound like you're ignorant and ill-informed.

Most Texans display some level of education.


  #37 (permalink)  
Old January 11th 07, 10:19 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general,microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices,microsoft.public.windows.vista.music_pictures_video
Drade
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Default Vista...? Proceed with caution!


"Alias" wrote in message
...
Hertz_Donut wrote:
"Paul-B" wrote in message
...
Hertz_Donut wrote:

"Alias" wrote in message
...
Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin] wrote:
Apple also uses DRM in their software, how you think they got
Hollywood and the Music Industry to sell their stuff through
through the iTunes Store? Also, Apple also locks into its own
DRM technology for example the proprietary AAC codec the iPod
uses.
I guess that leaves Linux.

Alias
No, it just means that there are still idiots that think Linux is
the answer...

Honu
Tell us what the question is and we can then see if, indeed, Linux is
the answer.

For instance, if the question were to be "What o/s can I install which
is free, quick and easy to install, fast, has bundled with it apps
which can be used to run an average office workstation, and can run on
a minimum-spec pc" what, I wonder would the answer be?

I know one thing it wouldn't be, and that is "Any flavour of Windows".

--
Paul-B


Okay, here is a question:

What OS can I install the does not require me to hunt for drivers for my
hardware,


Ubuntu.


Does Ubuntu support the AIW x1800? Not just video drivers, but TV as well?
Also, can it do so from the ubuntu live CD, so I can check it out before
going through an install?





  #38 (permalink)  
Old January 12th 07, 12:27 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general,microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices,microsoft.public.windows.vista.music_pictures_video
Dale
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Default Vista...? Proceed with caution!

Fork Vista.

Dale

"arachnid" wrote in message
newsan.2007.01.09.02.11.28.63736@goawayspammers. com...
On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 17:00:13 -0600, Chris wrote:

In what way? I have tried both the latest Ubuntu and Fedora and neither
worked with my wide screen Dell using an ATI 1400 chip. Neither worked
with Wi-Fi either. I know there are "solutions" but non are particularly
easy to implement. I did read that Suse had the ATI drivers in the
repository, but with the other two I was going to have to do some heavy
tweaking to get either to work.


For WiFi I installed network-manager-gnome and it just worked. Of course,
things are only that easy if you have fully Linux-compatible hardware.
Incompatible hardware takes a little more work. )

Many incompatible wifi cards are the wifi equivalent of winmodems - they
use firmware that runs only under Windows, and the wifi manufacturers
won't provide Linux-native firmware or reveal the specifications that
Linux developers need to write their own. You can still get many of these
to work using ndiswrapper (which uses the device's Windows drivers) or by
purchasing a commercial driver from
http://www.linuxant.com/driverloader.

My widescreen display and ATI graphics card were supported to the proper
resolution right out of the box, but the generic open-source ati driver
doesn't do 3D. For that you have to install ATI's proprietary fglrx
driver. The easiest way to accomplish that is to install automatix and
then use the fglrx button. You'll want automatix anyway to install other
useful things like mp3 players, codecs, etc.

Canonical has announced that future versions of Ubuntu will come with
proprietary drivers either bundled (if the driver license allows it) or
downloadable/installable via a one-click installer. That was probably
prompted by Mint Linux http://linuxmint.com. Mint is just Ubuntu with
proprietary drivers added to the installer, plus a few other changes made
that Ubuntu users have been clamoring for but Canonical didn't feel
like implementing.

We see this all the time in Linux - a project isn't responsive enough to
some group of its users so they fork it into their own project. To keep
from losing control to the new fork, the original project incorporates its
new features. The fork is then no longer needed and dies, full control is
restored to the original project, and now its users have the new features
they wanted.

Imagine how much different things would be if Windows users could fork
Vista! :-)


  #39 (permalink)  
Old January 12th 07, 12:55 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general,microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices,microsoft.public.windows.vista.music_pictures_video
Alias
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Default Vista...? Proceed with caution!

Drade wrote:

"Alias" wrote in message
...
Hertz_Donut wrote:
"Paul-B" wrote in message
...
Hertz_Donut wrote:

"Alias" wrote in message
...
Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin] wrote:
Apple also uses DRM in their software, how you think they got
Hollywood and the Music Industry to sell their stuff through
through the iTunes Store? Also, Apple also locks into its own
DRM technology for example the proprietary AAC codec the iPod
uses.
I guess that leaves Linux.

Alias
No, it just means that there are still idiots that think Linux is
the answer...

Honu
Tell us what the question is and we can then see if, indeed, Linux is
the answer.

For instance, if the question were to be "What o/s can I install which
is free, quick and easy to install, fast, has bundled with it apps
which can be used to run an average office workstation, and can run on
a minimum-spec pc" what, I wonder would the answer be?

I know one thing it wouldn't be, and that is "Any flavour of Windows".

--
Paul-B

Okay, here is a question:

What OS can I install the does not require me to hunt for drivers for
my hardware,


Ubuntu.


Does Ubuntu support the AIW x1800? Not just video drivers, but TV as
well? Also, can it do so from the ubuntu live CD, so I can check it out
before going through an install?


Not sure about that, although installing Ubuntu isn't a very long or
eventful process to see if there are updates for the hardware. Do it on
a spare hard drive. I suspect if you look hard enough you'll find
hardware that either you have to look for drivers or just doesn't have
any for Linux. I know this is the case for 56K modems for example.

Alias
 




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