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Vista...? Proceed with caution!
I am a UT Arlington alumnus. Are you Texas educated also?
"Theo" wrote in message ... HeyBub wrote: Alias wrote: Chris wrote: Unless you have a widescreen laptop with wi-fi, but those are pretty rare. I don't know about the widescreen but Ubuntu supports wi-fi. Who cares? Ubuntu sounds like another Nigerian scam. And you sound like you're ignorant and ill-informed. Most Texans display some level of education. |
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In what way? I have tried both the latest Ubuntu and Fedora and neither
worked with my wide screen Dell using an ATI 1400 chip. Neither worked with Wi-Fi either. I know there are "solutions" but non are particularly easy to implement. I did read that Suse had the ATI drivers in the repository, but with the other two I was going to have to do some heavy tweaking to get either to work. "arachnid" wrote in message newsan.2007.01.08.16.06.09.136975@goawayspammers .com... On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 13:22:00 +0100, Alias wrote: Chris wrote: Unless you have a widescreen laptop with wi-fi, but those are pretty rare. I don't know about the widescreen but Ubuntu supports wi-fi. Linux supports widescreen, too. |
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HeyBub wrote:
Alias wrote: Chris wrote: Unless you have a widescreen laptop with wi-fi, but those are pretty rare. I don't know about the widescreen but Ubuntu supports wi-fi. Who cares? Ubuntu sounds like another Nigerian scam. Revealing yourself to be a racist in public, eh? Alias |
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On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 17:00:13 -0600, Chris wrote:
In what way? I have tried both the latest Ubuntu and Fedora and neither worked with my wide screen Dell using an ATI 1400 chip. Neither worked with Wi-Fi either. I know there are "solutions" but non are particularly easy to implement. I did read that Suse had the ATI drivers in the repository, but with the other two I was going to have to do some heavy tweaking to get either to work. For WiFi I installed network-manager-gnome and it just worked. Of course, things are only that easy if you have fully Linux-compatible hardware. Incompatible hardware takes a little more work. ) Many incompatible wifi cards are the wifi equivalent of winmodems - they use firmware that runs only under Windows, and the wifi manufacturers won't provide Linux-native firmware or reveal the specifications that Linux developers need to write their own. You can still get many of these to work using ndiswrapper (which uses the device's Windows drivers) or by purchasing a commercial driver from http://www.linuxant.com/driverloader. My widescreen display and ATI graphics card were supported to the proper resolution right out of the box, but the generic open-source ati driver doesn't do 3D. For that you have to install ATI's proprietary fglrx driver. The easiest way to accomplish that is to install automatix and then use the fglrx button. You'll want automatix anyway to install other useful things like mp3 players, codecs, etc. Canonical has announced that future versions of Ubuntu will come with proprietary drivers either bundled (if the driver license allows it) or downloadable/installable via a one-click installer. That was probably prompted by Mint Linux http://linuxmint.com. Mint is just Ubuntu with proprietary drivers added to the installer, plus a few other changes made that Ubuntu users have been clamoring for but Canonical didn't feel like implementing. We see this all the time in Linux - a project isn't responsive enough to some group of its users so they fork it into their own project. To keep from losing control to the new fork, the original project incorporates its new features. The fork is then no longer needed and dies, full control is restored to the original project, and now its users have the new features they wanted. Imagine how much different things would be if Windows users could fork Vista! :-) |
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I just received a 50 million USD email-offer from Saddam's first daughter,
Raghad Hussein. She's in Jordan but needs my help to bring the money from the UK to the US. I wanted to offer her 100 billion USD and reverse the scam but I don't take advantage of women... well, not anymore... much. Odd, a phone/dsl offer was attached to her email all in German. Anyway, I checked my Vista 'People Near Me' and Raghad is not anywhere near me. So I turned her over to 'Vista Security Center' and they said their international 'Windows Defender' would handle the matter, probably through 'Parental Controls.' I told them I'd like to 'Lock her Bits with my Drive Encryption' but something was askew with my 'iSCSI Initiator' so, that ended with a sudden BSOD. Sigh. I was hoping for a 'QuickTime.' "Alias" wrote in message ... HeyBub wrote: Alias wrote: Chris wrote: Unless you have a widescreen laptop with wi-fi, but those are pretty rare. I don't know about the widescreen but Ubuntu supports wi-fi. Who cares? Ubuntu sounds like another Nigerian scam. Revealing yourself to be a racist in public, eh? Alias |
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I lived in El Paso for several years and I think my
sister-in-law is a UTEP alumnus. Colin Barnhorst wrote: I am a UT Arlington alumnus. Are you Texas educated also? "Theo" wrote in message ... HeyBub wrote: Alias wrote: Chris wrote: Unless you have a widescreen laptop with wi-fi, but those are pretty rare. I don't know about the widescreen but Ubuntu supports wi-fi. Who cares? Ubuntu sounds like another Nigerian scam. And you sound like you're ignorant and ill-informed. Most Texans display some level of education. |
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"Alias" wrote in message ... Hertz_Donut wrote: "Paul-B" wrote in message ... Hertz_Donut wrote: "Alias" wrote in message ... Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin] wrote: Apple also uses DRM in their software, how you think they got Hollywood and the Music Industry to sell their stuff through through the iTunes Store? Also, Apple also locks into its own DRM technology for example the proprietary AAC codec the iPod uses. I guess that leaves Linux. Alias No, it just means that there are still idiots that think Linux is the answer... Honu Tell us what the question is and we can then see if, indeed, Linux is the answer. For instance, if the question were to be "What o/s can I install which is free, quick and easy to install, fast, has bundled with it apps which can be used to run an average office workstation, and can run on a minimum-spec pc" what, I wonder would the answer be? I know one thing it wouldn't be, and that is "Any flavour of Windows". -- Paul-B Okay, here is a question: What OS can I install the does not require me to hunt for drivers for my hardware, Ubuntu. Does Ubuntu support the AIW x1800? Not just video drivers, but TV as well? Also, can it do so from the ubuntu live CD, so I can check it out before going through an install? |
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Fork Vista.
Dale "arachnid" wrote in message newsan.2007.01.09.02.11.28.63736@goawayspammers. com... On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 17:00:13 -0600, Chris wrote: In what way? I have tried both the latest Ubuntu and Fedora and neither worked with my wide screen Dell using an ATI 1400 chip. Neither worked with Wi-Fi either. I know there are "solutions" but non are particularly easy to implement. I did read that Suse had the ATI drivers in the repository, but with the other two I was going to have to do some heavy tweaking to get either to work. For WiFi I installed network-manager-gnome and it just worked. Of course, things are only that easy if you have fully Linux-compatible hardware. Incompatible hardware takes a little more work. ) Many incompatible wifi cards are the wifi equivalent of winmodems - they use firmware that runs only under Windows, and the wifi manufacturers won't provide Linux-native firmware or reveal the specifications that Linux developers need to write their own. You can still get many of these to work using ndiswrapper (which uses the device's Windows drivers) or by purchasing a commercial driver from http://www.linuxant.com/driverloader. My widescreen display and ATI graphics card were supported to the proper resolution right out of the box, but the generic open-source ati driver doesn't do 3D. For that you have to install ATI's proprietary fglrx driver. The easiest way to accomplish that is to install automatix and then use the fglrx button. You'll want automatix anyway to install other useful things like mp3 players, codecs, etc. Canonical has announced that future versions of Ubuntu will come with proprietary drivers either bundled (if the driver license allows it) or downloadable/installable via a one-click installer. That was probably prompted by Mint Linux http://linuxmint.com. Mint is just Ubuntu with proprietary drivers added to the installer, plus a few other changes made that Ubuntu users have been clamoring for but Canonical didn't feel like implementing. We see this all the time in Linux - a project isn't responsive enough to some group of its users so they fork it into their own project. To keep from losing control to the new fork, the original project incorporates its new features. The fork is then no longer needed and dies, full control is restored to the original project, and now its users have the new features they wanted. Imagine how much different things would be if Windows users could fork Vista! :-) |
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Drade wrote:
"Alias" wrote in message ... Hertz_Donut wrote: "Paul-B" wrote in message ... Hertz_Donut wrote: "Alias" wrote in message ... Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin] wrote: Apple also uses DRM in their software, how you think they got Hollywood and the Music Industry to sell their stuff through through the iTunes Store? Also, Apple also locks into its own DRM technology for example the proprietary AAC codec the iPod uses. I guess that leaves Linux. Alias No, it just means that there are still idiots that think Linux is the answer... Honu Tell us what the question is and we can then see if, indeed, Linux is the answer. For instance, if the question were to be "What o/s can I install which is free, quick and easy to install, fast, has bundled with it apps which can be used to run an average office workstation, and can run on a minimum-spec pc" what, I wonder would the answer be? I know one thing it wouldn't be, and that is "Any flavour of Windows". -- Paul-B Okay, here is a question: What OS can I install the does not require me to hunt for drivers for my hardware, Ubuntu. Does Ubuntu support the AIW x1800? Not just video drivers, but TV as well? Also, can it do so from the ubuntu live CD, so I can check it out before going through an install? Not sure about that, although installing Ubuntu isn't a very long or eventful process to see if there are updates for the hardware. Do it on a spare hard drive. I suspect if you look hard enough you'll find hardware that either you have to look for drivers or just doesn't have any for Linux. I know this is the case for 56K modems for example. Alias |