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where is the Windows 7 news group



 
 
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Old January 13th 09, 02:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
Alias[_44_]
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Gordon wrote:
"Alias" wrote in message
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Did the Vista BETA have a newsgroup? For that matter did any of the
Windows BETA versions have a newsgroup?



XP did - microsoft.public.windowsxp.beta.general


But Vista didn't? If so, one can expect a news group when Win7 is
finally released.

Alias
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Old January 13th 09, 02:41 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
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Default where is the Windows 7 news group

"Alias" wrote in message
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Gordon wrote:
"Alias" wrote in message
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Did the Vista BETA have a newsgroup? For that matter did any of the
Windows BETA versions have a newsgroup?



XP did - microsoft.public.windowsxp.beta.general


But Vista didn't? If so, one can expect a news group when Win7 is finally
released.



I think the Vista beta groups were solely on TechNet or MSDN....

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  #33 (permalink)  
Old January 13th 09, 04:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
Felipe Alfaro Solana
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"echrada" wrote in message
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Try this forum 'www.sevenforums.com' (http://www.sevenforums.com)


Try this one better, as it's the offical one:

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/...2-bb00b48f919e



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Old January 13th 09, 04:47 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
Felipe Alfaro Solana
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Default where is the Windows 7 news group

"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
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I think that is probably the ultimate outcome. MS has been moving away
from NNTP for awhile and now that they kill off OE / WinMail as part of
the OS, they put another nail in the coffin. And then another by not
having any NGs for Windows 7.


Turns out that Windows Live Mail does have support for NNTP. It's called
Microsoft Communities. Also, other NNTP accounts can be added, but turns out
you need to enable the menu bar in order to be able to access Tools -
Accounts.


steve

"Susan" wrote in message
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On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:12:27 -0600, "Carey Frisch"
wrote:

Microsoft has established a special Windows 7 Beta Forum you can access
he
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/...egory/w7itpro/


"Tony Rizzo" wrote in message
. ..
Anyone know

T


What a funny discussion. I thought everyone got Tony's original post
wrong discussing news readers instead of what/where the Windows 7
USENET newsgroup was named/located. Now Carey drops the bombshell
that MS isn't going to do a newsgroup for Windows 7. Does that mean
they will slowly but surely close down all their existing USENET
newsgroups? I guess Agent will have to slowly turn into a forums
(browser) reader next?


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Old January 13th 09, 04:48 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
Felipe Alfaro Solana
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Default where is the Windows 7 news group

"Alias" wrote in message
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Steve Cochran wrote:
I think that is probably the ultimate outcome. MS has been moving away
from NNTP for awhile and now that they kill off OE / WinMail as part of
the OS, they put another nail in the coffin. And then another by not
having any NGs for Windows 7.

steve


Hi Steve,

Did the Vista BETA have a newsgroup? For that matter did any of the
Windows BETA versions have a newsgroup?


All private betas have their corresponding newsgroups. The problem is that
they require you to be enrolled in connect.microsoft.com (in the old times,
it was windowsbeta.com).


Alias

"Susan" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:12:27 -0600, "Carey Frisch"
wrote:

Microsoft has established a special Windows 7 Beta Forum you can access
he
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/...egory/w7itpro/


"Tony Rizzo" wrote in message
...
Anyone know

T

What a funny discussion. I thought everyone got Tony's original post
wrong discussing news readers instead of what/where the Windows 7
USENET newsgroup was named/located. Now Carey drops the bombshell
that MS isn't going to do a newsgroup for Windows 7. Does that mean
they will slowly but surely close down all their existing USENET
newsgroups? I guess Agent will have to slowly turn into a forums
(browser) reader next?


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Old January 13th 09, 04:49 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
Felipe Alfaro Solana
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Default where is the Windows 7 news group

"Zaphod Beeblebrox" wrote in message
...

"Susan" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:12:27 -0600, "Carey Frisch"
wrote:

Microsoft has established a special Windows 7 Beta Forum you can access
he
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/...egory/w7itpro/


"Tony Rizzo" wrote in message
. ..
Anyone know

T


What a funny discussion. I thought everyone got Tony's original post
wrong discussing news readers instead of what/where the Windows 7
USENET newsgroup was named/located. Now Carey drops the bombshell
that MS isn't going to do a newsgroup for Windows 7. Does that mean
they will slowly but surely close down all their existing USENET
newsgroups? I guess Agent will have to slowly turn into a forums
(browser) reader next?


Where does Carey say that MS isn't going to do a newsgroup for Windows 7?
I see where he points to a forum for the beta, but I don't see where he
says there won't be a newsgroup. Did I miss a post?


Again, here's the official answer:

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/...2-bb00b48f919e


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Old January 13th 09, 07:11 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
Zaphod Beeblebrox
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Default where is the Windows 7 news group


"Felipe Alfaro Solana" wrote in message
...
"Zaphod Beeblebrox" wrote in
message ...

"Susan" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:12:27 -0600, "Carey Frisch"
wrote:

Microsoft has established a special Windows 7 Beta Forum you can
access he
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/...egory/w7itpro/


"Tony Rizzo" wrote in message
.. .
Anyone know

T

What a funny discussion. I thought everyone got Tony's original
post
wrong discussing news readers instead of what/where the Windows 7
USENET newsgroup was named/located. Now Carey drops the bombshell
that MS isn't going to do a newsgroup for Windows 7. Does that mean
they will slowly but surely close down all their existing USENET
newsgroups? I guess Agent will have to slowly turn into a forums
(browser) reader next?


Where does Carey say that MS isn't going to do a newsgroup for
Windows 7? I see where he points to a forum for the beta, but I don't
see where he says there won't be a newsgroup. Did I miss a post?


Again, here's the official answer:

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/...2-bb00b48f919e


Which, again, does not say that MS is or isn't going to do a newsgroup
(or groups) for Windows 7. It only says that Technet forums don't have
NNTP access, and that they might consider adding NNTP access to Technet
forums in the future.

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  #38 (permalink)  
Old January 14th 09, 03:07 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
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Default where is the Windows 7 news group

Bill Anderson wrote:
Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 14:03:05 -0000, "Synapse Syndrome"
wrote:

You have to install Windows Live Mail from the internet, if you want
a Microsoft newsreader on Win7. It's even slower than ever now, with
a really childish interface. Yuck.



But I assume that the many other third-party newsreaders such as Forte
Agent, my personal choice) will work with Windows 7. If they don't
work immediately when Windows 7 is released, they'll quickly be
modified and the new version will work with it,


Thunderbird is working just fine for me in Windows 7 -- both mail and
newsreader. I'd forgotten that before I turned off Vista's User Account
Control, Vista used to insist I choose "run as administrator" any time I
started Thunderbird. So when I installed Thunderbird in Windows 7 and
pointed it to the common Thunderbird email folder I use for all my OS
installations (five, now) I wasn't seeing any emails in my Thunderbird
inbox. Took a few minutes for me to remember to turn off UAC. Actually,
I confess I hadn't installed the very latest version of Thunderbird --
maybe the problem is fixed with the newer versions. The problem is
definitely fixed if you turn off UAC.

I will turn UAC on if anybody can persuade me the added security is
worth the annoyance. In the entire time I've been running Vista (more
than a year) I've never once wished I'd left UAC alone to do its job. No
security breaches, unwanted software installations, no disasters of any
kind. UAC -- I seem to be doing just fine without it.

Installed the latest version of Thunderbird on Win7 32bit and there are
no UAC prompts when I start it. No UAC with Pegasus mail 4.4, Sunbird or
Gimp either. Don't know that it makes a difference with newer software
but I try to remember to use run as Administrator during installations.
  #39 (permalink)  
Old January 14th 09, 05:16 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
Bill Anderson[_3_]
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Default where is the Windows 7 news group

On Jan 14, 11:07 am, RalfG wrote:
Bill Anderson wrote:
Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 14:03:05 -0000, "Synapse Syndrome"
wrote:


You have to install Windows Live Mail from the internet, if you want
a Microsoft newsreader on Win7. It's even slower than ever now, with
a really childish interface. Yuck.


But I assume that the many other third-party newsreaders such as Forte
Agent, my personal choice) will work with Windows 7. If they don't
work immediately when Windows 7 is released, they'll quickly be
modified and the new version will work with it,


Thunderbird is working just fine for me in Windows 7 -- both mail and
newsreader. I'd forgotten that before I turned off Vista's User Account
Control, Vista used to insist I choose "run as administrator" any time I
started Thunderbird. So when I installed Thunderbird in Windows 7 and
pointed it to the common Thunderbird email folder I use for all my OS
installations (five, now) I wasn't seeing any emails in my Thunderbird
inbox. Took a few minutes for me to remember to turn off UAC. Actually,
I confess I hadn't installed the very latest version of Thunderbird --
maybe the problem is fixed with the newer versions. The problem is
definitely fixed if you turn off UAC.


I will turn UAC on if anybody can persuade me the added security is
worth the annoyance. In the entire time I've been running Vista (more
than a year) I've never once wished I'd left UAC alone to do its job. No
security breaches, unwanted software installations, no disasters of any
kind. UAC -- I seem to be doing just fine without it.


Installed the latest version of Thunderbird on Win7 32bit and there are
no UAC prompts when I start it. No UAC with Pegasus mail 4.4, Sunbird or
Gimp either. Don't know that it makes a difference with newer software
but I try to remember to use run as Administrator during installations.


Thanks. By coincidence I installed Thunderbird again last night on a
fresh installation of Windows 7 Beta. (I was starting over.) Once
again I have found myself forced always to answer yes to the window
that pops up when I start Thunderbird asking whether I want to allow
the program to make changes to my computer. I confess I probably
didn't right click the Thunderbird installation program to choose "run
as administrator." But now, the only way for me to start Thunderbird
successfully without first answering a question is to turn off UAC.
Is there no way to get around this? I don't want to turn off UAC
because (believe it or not) gadgets don't work in Windows 7 beta
unless UAC is turned on. Ideas, anyone? Thanks.

Bill Anderson

I am the Mighty Favog

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Old January 16th 09, 12:14 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
Steve Cochran
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Default where is the Windows 7 news group

I was being moderately facetious.

MS has been slowly phasing out NNTP over the years. Elimination of an OS
based news program is one example and one more nail.

steve

"Alias" wrote in message
...
Steve Cochran wrote:
I think that is probably the ultimate outcome. MS has been moving away
from NNTP for awhile and now that they kill off OE / WinMail as part of
the OS, they put another nail in the coffin. And then another by not
having any NGs for Windows 7.

steve


Hi Steve,

Did the Vista BETA have a newsgroup? For that matter did any of the
Windows BETA versions have a newsgroup?

Alias

"Susan" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:12:27 -0600, "Carey Frisch"
wrote:

Microsoft has established a special Windows 7 Beta Forum you can access
he
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/...egory/w7itpro/


"Tony Rizzo" wrote in message
...
Anyone know

T

What a funny discussion. I thought everyone got Tony's original post
wrong discussing news readers instead of what/where the Windows 7
USENET newsgroup was named/located. Now Carey drops the bombshell
that MS isn't going to do a newsgroup for Windows 7. Does that mean
they will slowly but surely close down all their existing USENET
newsgroups? I guess Agent will have to slowly turn into a forums
(browser) reader next?



 




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