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Take ownership-for dummies



 
 
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Old January 5th 07, 07:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management
Jeff
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Default Take ownership-for dummies

Hi,

Need a basic "jeffproof" step by step on how to take ownership.
Basically, I let Dell write a "system profile execute to my System32
folder-to find my service tag,
and now I can't delete it.
Even after I open explorer with "run as admin"go to security.click on
meapply all(read/write/special)
still says DENIED

Any help?

(Psst- Jimmy B- a hand here)


Jeff

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Old January 6th 07, 12:05 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management
Jimmy Brush
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Default Take ownership-for dummies

Hello Jeff ,

snip
Need a basic "jeffproof" step by step on how to take ownership.


- Right-click the file/folder you want to own, click properties
- Click Security Tab
- Click Advanced
- Click the Owner Tab
- Click Edit
- Select the Administrators group from the list
- Click OK
- Click OK
- Click OK

You can now change permissions on that file/folder to whatever suits you.

Basically, I let Dell write a "system profile execute to my System32
folder-to find my service tag,
and now I can't delete it.
Even after I open explorer with "run as admin"go to security.click on
meapply all(read/write/special)
still says DENIED


I'm not sure I understand what you mean here. Did it add a file/folder to
your system32 folder and you want to delete that file/folder, or did it
change the permissions on your system32 folder and you want to remove that
permission?

In any case, taking ownership of a file/folder will only allow you to change
the permissions for that file/folder - you will need to grant yourself the
additional permissions if you want to do anything else to that file/folder.

Also, once you are done changing your system folder, it is good practice to
remove any additional permissions you gave yourself. This will help keep
malicious programs from being able to use those permissions.


Any help?

(Psst- Jimmy B- a hand here)


Jeff



- JB
Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell/User

Windows Vista Support Faq
http://www.jimmah.com/vista/

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Old January 6th 07, 12:54 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management
Ray
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Posts: 84
Default Take ownership-for dummies

That's something I know we should do, but do we? I don't all the time, well
almost never. I get involved in doing what I started and forget about
resetting them back again.
Is there a way to reset permissions globally to default.

Ray


"Jimmy Brush" wrote in message
...
Hello Jeff ,

snip
Need a basic "jeffproof" step by step on how to take ownership.


snip
Also, once you are done changing your system folder, it is good practice
to remove any additional permissions you gave yourself. This will help
keep malicious programs from being able to use those permissions.


Any help?

(Psst- Jimmy B- a hand here)


Jeff



- JB
Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell/User

Windows Vista Support Faq
http://www.jimmah.com/vista/


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Old January 6th 07, 02:06 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management
Jeff
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Posts: 222
Default Take ownership-for dummies

Jimmy,

It added a folder-that I can't delete.
Don't think it changed the whole System32 permissions- God, I hope not-

Jeff

"Jimmy Brush" wrote in message
...
Hello Jeff ,

snip
Need a basic "jeffproof" step by step on how to take ownership.


- Right-click the file/folder you want to own, click properties
- Click Security Tab
- Click Advanced
- Click the Owner Tab
- Click Edit
- Select the Administrators group from the list
- Click OK
- Click OK
- Click OK

You can now change permissions on that file/folder to whatever suits you.

Basically, I let Dell write a "system profile execute to my System32
folder-to find my service tag,
and now I can't delete it.
Even after I open explorer with "run as admin"go to security.click on
meapply all(read/write/special)
still says DENIED


I'm not sure I understand what you mean here. Did it add a file/folder to
your system32 folder and you want to delete that file/folder, or did it
change the permissions on your system32 folder and you want to remove that
permission?

In any case, taking ownership of a file/folder will only allow you to
change the permissions for that file/folder - you will need to grant
yourself the additional permissions if you want to do anything else to
that file/folder.

Also, once you are done changing your system folder, it is good practice
to remove any additional permissions you gave yourself. This will help
keep malicious programs from being able to use those permissions.


Any help?

(Psst- Jimmy B- a hand here)


Jeff



- JB
Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell/User

Windows Vista Support Faq
http://www.jimmah.com/vista/


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Old January 7th 07, 01:24 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management
wosully
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Posts: 10
Default Take ownership-for dummies

The integrity level could also be set to high for the file and you would have
to be admin with the admin token to delete it, not a user.

you can use the icacls command to view the integrity level which trumps NTFS
permissions.
--
MCSE: Security, CCNA, A+, Network +, Security+


"Jeff" wrote:

Jimmy,

It added a folder-that I can't delete.
Don't think it changed the whole System32 permissions- God, I hope not-

Jeff

"Jimmy Brush" wrote in message
...
Hello Jeff ,

snip
Need a basic "jeffproof" step by step on how to take ownership.


- Right-click the file/folder you want to own, click properties
- Click Security Tab
- Click Advanced
- Click the Owner Tab
- Click Edit
- Select the Administrators group from the list
- Click OK
- Click OK
- Click OK

You can now change permissions on that file/folder to whatever suits you.

Basically, I let Dell write a "system profile execute to my System32
folder-to find my service tag,
and now I can't delete it.
Even after I open explorer with "run as admin"go to security.click on
meapply all(read/write/special)
still says DENIED


I'm not sure I understand what you mean here. Did it add a file/folder to
your system32 folder and you want to delete that file/folder, or did it
change the permissions on your system32 folder and you want to remove that
permission?

In any case, taking ownership of a file/folder will only allow you to
change the permissions for that file/folder - you will need to grant
yourself the additional permissions if you want to do anything else to
that file/folder.

Also, once you are done changing your system folder, it is good practice
to remove any additional permissions you gave yourself. This will help
keep malicious programs from being able to use those permissions.


Any help?

(Psst- Jimmy B- a hand here)


Jeff



- JB
Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell/User

Windows Vista Support Faq
http://www.jimmah.com/vista/



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Old January 7th 07, 01:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management
Jeff
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Posts: 222
Default Take ownership-for dummies

wosully,

What part of the title/header/thread didn't ya get?

Take ownership-for dummies-which to me means,

1) explaining terms in easy to understand non-geek speak

2) not referring to command line stuff(that's considered-more than
average-in my book)

Jimmy's step by step was EXACTLY what I asked for-and worked great!!!
but thanks for trying.


(thx Jimmy-btw)

Jeff

"wosully" wrote in message
...
The integrity level could also be set to high for the file and you would
have
to be admin with the admin token to delete it, not a user.

you can use the icacls command to view the integrity level which trumps
NTFS
permissions.
--
MCSE: Security, CCNA, A+, Network +, Security+


"Jeff" wrote:

Jimmy,

It added a folder-that I can't delete.
Don't think it changed the whole System32 permissions- God, I hope not-

Jeff

"Jimmy Brush" wrote in message
...
Hello Jeff ,

snip
Need a basic "jeffproof" step by step on how to take ownership.

- Right-click the file/folder you want to own, click properties
- Click Security Tab
- Click Advanced
- Click the Owner Tab
- Click Edit
- Select the Administrators group from the list
- Click OK
- Click OK
- Click OK

You can now change permissions on that file/folder to whatever suits
you.

Basically, I let Dell write a "system profile execute to my System32
folder-to find my service tag,
and now I can't delete it.
Even after I open explorer with "run as admin"go to security.click on
meapply all(read/write/special)
still says DENIED

I'm not sure I understand what you mean here. Did it add a file/folder
to
your system32 folder and you want to delete that file/folder, or did it
change the permissions on your system32 folder and you want to remove
that
permission?

In any case, taking ownership of a file/folder will only allow you to
change the permissions for that file/folder - you will need to grant
yourself the additional permissions if you want to do anything else to
that file/folder.

Also, once you are done changing your system folder, it is good
practice
to remove any additional permissions you gave yourself. This will help
keep malicious programs from being able to use those permissions.


Any help?

(Psst- Jimmy B- a hand here)


Jeff


- JB
Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell/User

Windows Vista Support Faq
http://www.jimmah.com/vista/




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Old January 7th 07, 06:30 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management
wosully
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Posts: 10
Default Take ownership-for dummies

Always good to know the audience; sorry about that, and glad it worked out
for you then.

;-)
--
MCSE: Security, CCNA, A+, Network +, Security+


"Jeff" wrote:

wosully,

What part of the title/header/thread didn't ya get?

Take ownership-for dummies-which to me means,

1) explaining terms in easy to understand non-geek speak

2) not referring to command line stuff(that's considered-more than
average-in my book)

Jimmy's step by step was EXACTLY what I asked for-and worked great!!!
but thanks for trying.


(thx Jimmy-btw)

Jeff

"wosully" wrote in message
...
The integrity level could also be set to high for the file and you would
have
to be admin with the admin token to delete it, not a user.

you can use the icacls command to view the integrity level which trumps
NTFS
permissions.
--
MCSE: Security, CCNA, A+, Network +, Security+


"Jeff" wrote:

Jimmy,

It added a folder-that I can't delete.
Don't think it changed the whole System32 permissions- God, I hope not-

Jeff

"Jimmy Brush" wrote in message
...
Hello Jeff ,

snip
Need a basic "jeffproof" step by step on how to take ownership.

- Right-click the file/folder you want to own, click properties
- Click Security Tab
- Click Advanced
- Click the Owner Tab
- Click Edit
- Select the Administrators group from the list
- Click OK
- Click OK
- Click OK

You can now change permissions on that file/folder to whatever suits
you.

Basically, I let Dell write a "system profile execute to my System32
folder-to find my service tag,
and now I can't delete it.
Even after I open explorer with "run as admin"go to security.click on
meapply all(read/write/special)
still says DENIED

I'm not sure I understand what you mean here. Did it add a file/folder
to
your system32 folder and you want to delete that file/folder, or did it
change the permissions on your system32 folder and you want to remove
that
permission?

In any case, taking ownership of a file/folder will only allow you to
change the permissions for that file/folder - you will need to grant
yourself the additional permissions if you want to do anything else to
that file/folder.

Also, once you are done changing your system folder, it is good
practice
to remove any additional permissions you gave yourself. This will help
keep malicious programs from being able to use those permissions.


Any help?

(Psst- Jimmy B- a hand here)


Jeff


- JB
Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell/User

Windows Vista Support Faq
http://www.jimmah.com/vista/




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Old January 7th 07, 07:05 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management
Jeff
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Posts: 222
Default Take ownership-for dummies

np
thx for puttin in your info-but that's over me-at this point
:-)

Jeff

"wosully" wrote in message
...
Always good to know the audience; sorry about that, and glad it worked out
for you then.

;-)
--
MCSE: Security, CCNA, A+, Network +, Security+


"Jeff" wrote:

wosully,

What part of the title/header/thread didn't ya get?

Take ownership-for dummies-which to me means,

1) explaining terms in easy to understand non-geek speak

2) not referring to command line stuff(that's considered-more than
average-in my book)

Jimmy's step by step was EXACTLY what I asked for-and worked great!!!
but thanks for trying.


(thx Jimmy-btw)

Jeff

"wosully" wrote in message
...
The integrity level could also be set to high for the file and you
would
have
to be admin with the admin token to delete it, not a user.

you can use the icacls command to view the integrity level which trumps
NTFS
permissions.
--
MCSE: Security, CCNA, A+, Network +, Security+


"Jeff" wrote:

Jimmy,

It added a folder-that I can't delete.
Don't think it changed the whole System32 permissions- God, I hope
not-

Jeff

"Jimmy Brush" wrote in message
...
Hello Jeff ,

snip
Need a basic "jeffproof" step by step on how to take ownership.

- Right-click the file/folder you want to own, click properties
- Click Security Tab
- Click Advanced
- Click the Owner Tab
- Click Edit
- Select the Administrators group from the list
- Click OK
- Click OK
- Click OK

You can now change permissions on that file/folder to whatever suits
you.

Basically, I let Dell write a "system profile execute to my
System32
folder-to find my service tag,
and now I can't delete it.
Even after I open explorer with "run as admin"go to security.click
on
meapply all(read/write/special)
still says DENIED

I'm not sure I understand what you mean here. Did it add a
file/folder
to
your system32 folder and you want to delete that file/folder, or did
it
change the permissions on your system32 folder and you want to
remove
that
permission?

In any case, taking ownership of a file/folder will only allow you
to
change the permissions for that file/folder - you will need to grant
yourself the additional permissions if you want to do anything else
to
that file/folder.

Also, once you are done changing your system folder, it is good
practice
to remove any additional permissions you gave yourself. This will
help
keep malicious programs from being able to use those permissions.


Any help?

(Psst- Jimmy B- a hand here)


Jeff


- JB
Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell/User

Windows Vista Support Faq
http://www.jimmah.com/vista/





 




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