This is not causing any problems, I just don't know why.

I have an i7 on a Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD5, gigabit Linksys switch, Norton 2008
firewall, Vista 32bit, and 3 PCs (Vista, Vista, XP) in a LAN.

Vista doesn't seem to think a LAN/switch is a real network?

I can see all of the other network PCs, connect to the internet (DSL) thru a
switch connected Linksys wireless router, share files, and printers; but
it's bugging me.

Any experts with an idea? Should I care?


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It could be the Norton. For troubleshooting, do clean boot. Please post back
with the result.
Windows general
How to run Windows OS with a clean boot · How to Run Windows Safe Mode
with Networking · How to setup DHCP for IP Phone How to sort programs in
Start ...
http://www.howtonetworking.com/Windo...owsgeneral.htm


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http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Stephen Russell" wrote in message
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This is not causing any problems, I just don't know why.

I have an i7 on a Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD5, gigabit Linksys switch, Norton
2008 firewall, Vista 32bit, and 3 PCs (Vista, Vista, XP) in a LAN.

Vista doesn't seem to think a LAN/switch is a real network?

I can see all of the other network PCs, connect to the internet (DSL) thru
a switch connected Linksys wireless router, share files, and printers; but
it's bugging me.

Any experts with an idea? Should I care?


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You may be on to something. I booted into SAFE Mode w/networking. The
network and sharing center showed an unidentified PUBLIC network that I
changed to private. Unfortunately a normal BOOT brought the same "no
network" results. I set up Norton's firewall with all the MAC addresses of
all the PCs. Like I said everything works, except sharing files is a PAIN
but usable.

When I use the windows key and click on network, that box gives me a status
line "This computer is not connected to a network. Click to connect..."; it
ignores that error and proceeds to show me all of the network connected PCs
and printers. When I click that notice it says I have NO wireless networks,
and I don't. This PC is LAN connected to a gigabit switch which LAN
connects to a wireless router, then to DSL.

I'm going to try a few more things in safe mode, and I'll definitely look at
what Norton 2008 may be doing.

"Robert L. (MS-MVP)" wrote in message
...
It could be the Norton. For troubleshooting, do clean boot. Please post
back with the result.
Windows general
How to run Windows OS with a clean boot · How to Run Windows Safe
Mode with Networking · How to setup DHCP for IP Phone How to sort programs
in Start ...
http://www.howtonetworking.com/Windo...owsgeneral.htm


--
Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Stephen Russell" wrote in message
...
This is not causing any problems, I just don't know why.

I have an i7 on a Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD5, gigabit Linksys switch, Norton
2008 firewall, Vista 32bit, and 3 PCs (Vista, Vista, XP) in a LAN.

Vista doesn't seem to think a LAN/switch is a real network?

I can see all of the other network PCs, connect to the internet (DSL)
thru a switch connected Linksys wireless router, share files, and
printers; but it's bugging me.

Any experts with an idea? Should I care?


http://s654.photobucket.com/albums [...] etwork.jpg

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Thanks for your points. I prefer to keep Norton, with all it's supposed
problems, I know it, so I'm sticking with it. I've tried both of the
products you mentioned, I don't think they are up to the task. And the
fewer vendors I use the better off I am when there is a problem. 20 years
with a PC doesn't make me an expert, but I can have a different opinion.

You and I will have to agree to disagree. I do not think Norton products
are garbage. Just because others agree with you (or me) doesn't make it
true.


"+Bob+" wrote in message
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On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:56:06 -0500, "Stephen Russell"
wrote:


When I use the windows key and click on network, that box gives me a
status
line "This computer is not connected to a network. Click to connect...";
it
ignores that error and proceeds to show me all of the network connected
PCs
and printers. When I click that notice it says I have NO wireless
networks,
and I don't. This PC is LAN connected to a gigabit switch which LAN
connects to a wireless router, then to DSL.

I'm going to try a few more things in safe mode, and I'll definitely look
at
what Norton 2008 may be doing.

How Vista determines whether you are "connected", especially to the
Internet (beyond the LAN), seems to be a bit of a mystery. At least, I
can't get anyone to confirm how it makes determination. I've seen it
report that you are not connected when you clearly are.

That said, Norton software universally sucks. Remove it. If that cures
the problem, toss it in the trash with the other garbage. Install Zone
Alarm Free if you want a software firewall. Install Avast for A/V.
Neither has any reported issues.

Setup Norton Security for local access. This how to may help.
Symantec and Norton How to
How to: Setup Norton Security for local access · setup Norton Internet
Security to allow remote access · Post your questions, comments, feedbacks
and ...
www.howtonetworking.com/others/norton.htm


--
Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Stephen Russell" wrote in message
...
Thanks for your points. I prefer to keep Norton, with all it's supposed
problems, I know it, so I'm sticking with it. I've tried both of the
products you mentioned, I don't think they are up to the task. And the
fewer vendors I use the better off I am when there is a problem. 20 years
with a PC doesn't make me an expert, but I can have a different opinion.

You and I will have to agree to disagree. I do not think Norton products
are garbage. Just because others agree with you (or me) doesn't make it
true.


"+Bob+" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:56:06 -0500, "Stephen Russell"
wrote:


When I use the windows key and click on network, that box gives me a
status
line "This computer is not connected to a network. Click to connect...";
it
ignores that error and proceeds to show me all of the network connected
PCs
and printers. When I click that notice it says I have NO wireless
networks,
and I don't. This PC is LAN connected to a gigabit switch which LAN
connects to a wireless router, then to DSL.

I'm going to try a few more things in safe mode, and I'll definitely look
at
what Norton 2008 may be doing.

How Vista determines whether you are "connected", especially to the
Internet (beyond the LAN), seems to be a bit of a mystery. At least, I
can't get anyone to confirm how it makes determination. I've seen it
report that you are not connected when you clearly are.

That said, Norton software universally sucks. Remove it. If that cures
the problem, toss it in the trash with the other garbage. Install Zone
Alarm Free if you want a software firewall. Install Avast for A/V.
Neither has any reported issues.

Point taken, I sit near our data security people and they HATE Norton
enterprise products. LOL In the end though, my company uses Norton, for a
variety of reasons and not all are rational.

I can tell you Norton 2008 is not a system hog. Before I built this system,
I was running on an old Dell 8250. I needed every last cycle to run
BioShock, F.E.A.R., and HL2. I was always looking at what was eating up
cycles, and Norton was not one of them. I agree the older versions needed
some work, but you may want to look at 2009, I just purchased my update, and
I'll be installing in a couple of weeks.

By the way I tried a SafeBoot, and actually saw an unidentified public
network, I changed it to Private, but no luck. Eventually I'll get to the
bottom of this. Vista only seems to want a wireless network setup.


"+Bob+" wrote in message
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On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:10:27 -0500, "Stephen Russell"
wrote:


You and I will have to agree to disagree. I do not think Norton products
are garbage. Just because others agree with you (or me) doesn't make it
true.

You are definitely entitled to your opinion and preference.

I think you will find that the majority of professionals disagree with
you when it comes to Norton. There are a few around who like the
corporate enterprise products, but very few fans of the home versions.
I've got my own Norton stories I could post, but lets just say that I
avoid it like the plague. As a general rule, I've yet to see a system
that didn't speed up dramatically when Norton was removed.