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Windows Vista and Windows 7 dual boot - visible partitions?



 
 
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Old January 28th 09, 02:52 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Victek
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Default Windows Vista and Windows 7 dual boot - visible partitions?

You may remember the issue when dual booting Vista and XP where all of the
restore points would get deleted because of System Restore incompatibilities
between the OSs. Currently I'm dual booting Vista and Windows 7. I use
System Commander and to be safe I have hidden the partition of the
non-active OS (in other words Vista cannot see the Win7 partition and Vice
Versa). I wonder though if there is any reason to do this, or if these two
operating systems will coexist without problems?

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Old January 28th 09, 04:03 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
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Default Windows Vista and Windows 7 dual boot - visible partitions?

"Victek" wrote in message
...
You may remember the issue when dual booting Vista and XP where all of the
restore points would get deleted because of System Restore
incompatibilities between the OSs. Currently I'm dual booting Vista and
Windows 7. I use System Commander and to be safe I have hidden the
partition of the non-active OS (in other words Vista cannot see the Win7
partition and Vice Versa). I wonder though if there is any reason to do
this, or if these two operating systems will coexist without problems?


Strange tho' it may seem, having XP & Vista on 2 separate HDD's and still
after XP all the restore points are wiped. Have put WIN7 on yet another HDD
and will report back later to see if the same happens.
--
John the West Ham fan







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Old February 5th 09, 02:21 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
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Default Windows Vista and Windows 7 dual boot - visible partitions?


maybe. what if it deleas somthing??


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Old February 5th 09, 02:37 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Night Hawk
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Default Windows Vista and Windows 7 dual boot - visible partitions?


Victek;952517 Wrote:
You may remember the issue when dual booting Vista and XP where all of
the
restore points would get deleted because of System Restore
incompatibilities
between the OSs. Currently I'm dual booting Vista and Windows 7. I use
System Commander and to be safe I have hidden the partition of the
non-active OS (in other words Vista cannot see the Win7 partition and
Vice
Versa). I wonder though if there is any reason to do this, or if these
two
operating systems will coexist without problems?


The Windows 7 beta doesn't see the system restore option available
since it's still in beta form. To find out what and if any effect is
seen on Vista's own restore points simply go into the feature as if you
were going to swing the system back and use the option to select other
then the latest available to see how many are present.

Dual booting 7 along with Vista is no different there then dual booting
two separate editions of Vista. Any presently onhand should be seen
right away.


--
Night Hawk
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Old February 5th 09, 05:15 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Kris[_5_]
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Default Windows Vista and Windows 7 dual boot - visible partitions?

On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:37:31 -0600, Night Hawk wrote:

Victek;952517 Wrote:
You may remember the issue when dual booting Vista and XP where all of
the
restore points would get deleted because of System Restore
incompatibilities
between the OSs. Currently I'm dual booting Vista and Windows 7. I use
System Commander and to be safe I have hidden the partition of the
non-active OS (in other words Vista cannot see the Win7 partition and
Vice
Versa). I wonder though if there is any reason to do this, or if these
two
operating systems will coexist without problems?


The Windows 7 beta doesn't see the system restore option available
since it's still in beta form. To find out what and if any effect is
seen on Vista's own restore points simply go into the feature as if you
were going to swing the system back and use the option to select other
then the latest available to see how many are present.

Dual booting 7 along with Vista is no different there then dual booting
two separate editions of Vista. Any presently onhand should be seen
right away.


having gone through all the Vista's-version-of-dual-boot, when I installed
Win7, I unplugged my Vista bearing spindle, and installed Win7 and it's
attendant 200mb boot partition on another spindle. Dual booting is now
done by stopping at BIOS, changing the boot spindle, and then saving and
re-booting. Pretty easy. Yesterday I very briefly used Vista for the
first time since 7000 came out. (Philips MP3 player firmware manager can't
see the USB playerin Win7).

On previous attempts, I used Acronis DiskDirector (10 I believe) to mark my
Vista partition as inactive and hidden and installed win7. The problem
with that is that it also installed that 200mb partition on my Vista
partition. Dual booting involved setting either the Win7 200mb boot
partition, or Vista, to "active, and booting. The first approach above is
the one I finally used and is vastly simpler.
--
Kris
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Old February 5th 09, 09:38 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
RalfG[_3_]
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Default Windows Vista and Windows 7 dual boot - visible partitions?

Booting XP, Vista and 2 installs of Windows 7. Only the XP registry needs to
be modified to hide the other OS partitions. Vista and Windows 7 System
Restore can co-exist without modification, just don't set SR to monitor the
other OS partitions.

"Kris" wrote in message ...
On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:37:31 -0600, Night Hawk wrote:

Victek;952517 Wrote:
You may remember the issue when dual booting Vista and XP where all of
the
restore points would get deleted because of System Restore
incompatibilities
between the OSs. Currently I'm dual booting Vista and Windows 7. I use
System Commander and to be safe I have hidden the partition of the
non-active OS (in other words Vista cannot see the Win7 partition and
Vice
Versa). I wonder though if there is any reason to do this, or if these
two
operating systems will coexist without problems?


The Windows 7 beta doesn't see the system restore option available
since it's still in beta form. To find out what and if any effect is
seen on Vista's own restore points simply go into the feature as if you
were going to swing the system back and use the option to select other
then the latest available to see how many are present.

Dual booting 7 along with Vista is no different there then dual booting
two separate editions of Vista. Any presently onhand should be seen
right away.


having gone through all the Vista's-version-of-dual-boot, when I installed
Win7, I unplugged my Vista bearing spindle, and installed Win7 and it's
attendant 200mb boot partition on another spindle. Dual booting is now
done by stopping at BIOS, changing the boot spindle, and then saving and
re-booting. Pretty easy. Yesterday I very briefly used Vista for the
first time since 7000 came out. (Philips MP3 player firmware manager can't
see the USB playerin Win7).

On previous attempts, I used Acronis DiskDirector (10 I believe) to mark
my
Vista partition as inactive and hidden and installed win7. The problem
with that is that it also installed that 200mb partition on my Vista
partition. Dual booting involved setting either the Win7 200mb boot
partition, or Vista, to "active, and booting. The first approach above is
the one I finally used and is vastly simpler.
--
Kris


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Old February 5th 09, 09:58 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Night Hawk
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Default Windows Vista and Windows 7 dual boot - visible partitions?


RalfG;959708 Wrote:
Booting XP, Vista and 2 installs of Windows 7. Only the XP registry
needs to
be modified to hide the other OS partitions. Vista and Windows 7 System
Restore can co-exist without modification, just don't set SR to monitor
the
other OS partitions.

"Kris" a@xxxxxx wrote in message news:zhjet6ek348i$.dlg@xxxxxx
On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:37:31 -0600, Night Hawk wrote:

Victek;952517 Wrote:

The Windows 7 beta doesn't see the system restore option available
since it's still in beta form. To find out what and if any effect is
seen on Vista's own restore points simply go into the feature as if
you
were going to swing the system back and use the option to select
other
then the latest available to see how many are present.

Dual booting 7 along with Vista is no different there then dual
booting
two separate editions of Vista. Any presently onhand should be seen
right away.

having gone through all the Vista's-version-of-dual-boot, when I

installed
Win7, I unplugged my Vista bearing spindle, and installed Win7

and it's
attendant 200mb boot partition on another spindle. Dual booting

is now
done by stopping at BIOS, changing the boot spindle, and then

saving and
re-booting. Pretty easy. Yesterday I very briefly used Vista for

the
first time since 7000 came out. (Philips MP3 player firmware

manager can't
see the USB playerin Win7).

On previous attempts, I used Acronis DiskDirector (10 I believe)

to mark
my
Vista partition as inactive and hidden and installed win7. The

problem
with that is that it also installed that 200mb partition on my

Vista
partition. Dual booting involved setting either the Win7 200mb

boot
partition, or Vista, to "active, and booting. The first approach

above is
the one I finally used and is vastly simpler.
--
Kris


It isn't so much the registry as it the boot loader. I'm currently
running a prebeta tool that will hide both Vista and 7 from XP in a
triple boot of the 3 versions. 7 was also setup on a separate drive by
itself and both copies of 7 lack the system restore feature since 7 is
still in beta form.


--
Night Hawk
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Old February 6th 09, 11:34 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
RalfG[_3_]
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Default Windows Vista and Windows 7 dual boot - visible partitions?

How do you mean Windows 7 lacks the system restore feature? It's present in
both my
Windows 7 installs. Creates automatic restore points and I've set manual
restore points as well. I check every so
often to see if they've been deleted after I booted into a different OS,
which they haven't. I did encounter a significant glitch after running a
system restore in Windows 7 64 bit as it deleted all the existing restore
points, but other than that it seemed to work.

AFAIK boot loaders have nothing to do with System Restore. Your software
may accomplish the same effect but a simple registry edit is all thats
needed to hide the Vista drive from XP. No need to juggle hardware or change
BIOS settings.

"Night Hawk" wrote in message
...

RalfG;959708 Wrote:
Booting XP, Vista and 2 installs of Windows 7. Only the XP registry
needs to
be modified to hide the other OS partitions. Vista and Windows 7 System
Restore can co-exist without modification, just don't set SR to monitor
the
other OS partitions.

"Kris" a@xxxxxx wrote in message news:zhjet6ek348i$.dlg@xxxxxx
On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:37:31 -0600, Night Hawk wrote:

Victek;952517 Wrote:

The Windows 7 beta doesn't see the system restore option available
since it's still in beta form. To find out what and if any effect
is
seen on Vista's own restore points simply go into the feature as
if
you
were going to swing the system back and use the option to select
other
then the latest available to see how many are present.

Dual booting 7 along with Vista is no different there then dual
booting
two separate editions of Vista. Any presently onhand should be
seen
right away.

having gone through all the Vista's-version-of-dual-boot, when I
installed
Win7, I unplugged my Vista bearing spindle, and installed Win7
and it's
attendant 200mb boot partition on another spindle. Dual booting
is now
done by stopping at BIOS, changing the boot spindle, and then
saving and
re-booting. Pretty easy. Yesterday I very briefly used Vista for
the
first time since 7000 came out. (Philips MP3 player firmware
manager can't
see the USB playerin Win7).

On previous attempts, I used Acronis DiskDirector (10 I believe)
to mark
my
Vista partition as inactive and hidden and installed win7. The
problem
with that is that it also installed that 200mb partition on my
Vista
partition. Dual booting involved setting either the Win7 200mb
boot
partition, or Vista, to "active, and booting. The first approach
above is
the one I finally used and is vastly simpler.
--
Kris


It isn't so much the registry as it the boot loader. I'm currently
running a prebeta tool that will hide both Vista and 7 from XP in a
triple boot of the 3 versions. 7 was also setup on a separate drive by
itself and both copies of 7 lack the system restore feature since 7 is
still in beta form.


--
Night Hawk


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Old February 6th 09, 11:15 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Night Hawk
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Default Windows Vista and Windows 7 dual boot - visible partitions?


RalfG;960168 Wrote:
How do you mean Windows 7 lacks the system restore feature? It's present
in
both my
Windows 7 installs. Creates automatic restore points and I've set
manual
restore points as well. I check every so
often to see if they've been deleted after I booted into a different
OS,
which they haven't. I did encounter a significant glitch after running
a
system restore in Windows 7 64 bit as it deleted all the existing
restore
points, but other than that it seemed to work.

AFAIK boot loaders have nothing to do with System Restore. Your
software
may accomplish the same effect but a simple registry edit is all thats
needed to hide the Vista drive from XP. No need to juggle hardware or
change
BIOS settings.

"Night Hawk" wrote in message
...

RalfG;959708 Wrote:
Booting XP, Vista and 2 installs of Windows 7. Only the XP registry
needs to
be modified to hide the other OS partitions. Vista and Windows 7
System
Restore can co-exist without modification, just don't set SR to
monitor
the
other OS partitions.

"Kris" a@xxxxxx wrote in message news:zhjet6ek348i$.dlg@xxxxxx


It isn't so much the registry as it the boot loader. I'm

currently
running a prebeta tool that will hide both Vista and 7 from XP in

a
triple boot of the 3 versions. 7 was also setup on a separate

drive by
itself and both copies of 7 lack the system restore feature since

7 is
still in beta form.


--
Night Hawk


I've installed both 32bit and 64bit public releases of 7 here to find
no option for the system restore feature present. That also included
replacing the 64bit beta with a second install of the 32bit release.

I don't which release you are running there but when looking for the
system restore points to see if they were present while beta testing
another tool for protecting restore points when dual booting Vista or 7
with older versions the feature wasn't found.


--
Night Hawk
 




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