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You may remember the issue when dual booting Vista and XP where all of the
restore points would get deleted because of System Restore incompatibilities between the OSs. Currently I'm dual booting Vista and Windows 7. I use System Commander and to be safe I have hidden the partition of the non-active OS (in other words Vista cannot see the Win7 partition and Vice Versa). I wonder though if there is any reason to do this, or if these two operating systems will coexist without problems? |
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Victek;952517 Wrote: You may remember the issue when dual booting Vista and XP where all of the restore points would get deleted because of System Restore incompatibilities between the OSs. Currently I'm dual booting Vista and Windows 7. I use System Commander and to be safe I have hidden the partition of the non-active OS (in other words Vista cannot see the Win7 partition and Vice Versa). I wonder though if there is any reason to do this, or if these two operating systems will coexist without problems? The Windows 7 beta doesn't see the system restore option available since it's still in beta form. To find out what and if any effect is seen on Vista's own restore points simply go into the feature as if you were going to swing the system back and use the option to select other then the latest available to see how many are present. Dual booting 7 along with Vista is no different there then dual booting two separate editions of Vista. Any presently onhand should be seen right away. -- Night Hawk |
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On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:37:31 -0600, Night Hawk wrote:
Victek;952517 Wrote: You may remember the issue when dual booting Vista and XP where all of the restore points would get deleted because of System Restore incompatibilities between the OSs. Currently I'm dual booting Vista and Windows 7. I use System Commander and to be safe I have hidden the partition of the non-active OS (in other words Vista cannot see the Win7 partition and Vice Versa). I wonder though if there is any reason to do this, or if these two operating systems will coexist without problems? The Windows 7 beta doesn't see the system restore option available since it's still in beta form. To find out what and if any effect is seen on Vista's own restore points simply go into the feature as if you were going to swing the system back and use the option to select other then the latest available to see how many are present. Dual booting 7 along with Vista is no different there then dual booting two separate editions of Vista. Any presently onhand should be seen right away. having gone through all the Vista's-version-of-dual-boot, when I installed Win7, I unplugged my Vista bearing spindle, and installed Win7 and it's attendant 200mb boot partition on another spindle. Dual booting is now done by stopping at BIOS, changing the boot spindle, and then saving and re-booting. Pretty easy. Yesterday I very briefly used Vista for the first time since 7000 came out. (Philips MP3 player firmware manager can't see the USB playerin Win7). On previous attempts, I used Acronis DiskDirector (10 I believe) to mark my Vista partition as inactive and hidden and installed win7. The problem with that is that it also installed that 200mb partition on my Vista partition. Dual booting involved setting either the Win7 200mb boot partition, or Vista, to "active, and booting. The first approach above is the one I finally used and is vastly simpler. -- Kris |
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Booting XP, Vista and 2 installs of Windows 7. Only the XP registry needs to
be modified to hide the other OS partitions. Vista and Windows 7 System Restore can co-exist without modification, just don't set SR to monitor the other OS partitions. "Kris" wrote in message ... On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:37:31 -0600, Night Hawk wrote: Victek;952517 Wrote: You may remember the issue when dual booting Vista and XP where all of the restore points would get deleted because of System Restore incompatibilities between the OSs. Currently I'm dual booting Vista and Windows 7. I use System Commander and to be safe I have hidden the partition of the non-active OS (in other words Vista cannot see the Win7 partition and Vice Versa). I wonder though if there is any reason to do this, or if these two operating systems will coexist without problems? The Windows 7 beta doesn't see the system restore option available since it's still in beta form. To find out what and if any effect is seen on Vista's own restore points simply go into the feature as if you were going to swing the system back and use the option to select other then the latest available to see how many are present. Dual booting 7 along with Vista is no different there then dual booting two separate editions of Vista. Any presently onhand should be seen right away. having gone through all the Vista's-version-of-dual-boot, when I installed Win7, I unplugged my Vista bearing spindle, and installed Win7 and it's attendant 200mb boot partition on another spindle. Dual booting is now done by stopping at BIOS, changing the boot spindle, and then saving and re-booting. Pretty easy. Yesterday I very briefly used Vista for the first time since 7000 came out. (Philips MP3 player firmware manager can't see the USB playerin Win7). On previous attempts, I used Acronis DiskDirector (10 I believe) to mark my Vista partition as inactive and hidden and installed win7. The problem with that is that it also installed that 200mb partition on my Vista partition. Dual booting involved setting either the Win7 200mb boot partition, or Vista, to "active, and booting. The first approach above is the one I finally used and is vastly simpler. -- Kris |
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RalfG;959708 Wrote: Booting XP, Vista and 2 installs of Windows 7. Only the XP registry needs to be modified to hide the other OS partitions. Vista and Windows 7 System Restore can co-exist without modification, just don't set SR to monitor the other OS partitions. "Kris" a@xxxxxx wrote in message news:zhjet6ek348i$.dlg@xxxxxx On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:37:31 -0600, Night Hawk wrote: Victek;952517 Wrote: The Windows 7 beta doesn't see the system restore option available since it's still in beta form. To find out what and if any effect is seen on Vista's own restore points simply go into the feature as if you were going to swing the system back and use the option to select other then the latest available to see how many are present. Dual booting 7 along with Vista is no different there then dual booting two separate editions of Vista. Any presently onhand should be seen right away. having gone through all the Vista's-version-of-dual-boot, when I installed Win7, I unplugged my Vista bearing spindle, and installed Win7 and it's attendant 200mb boot partition on another spindle. Dual booting is now done by stopping at BIOS, changing the boot spindle, and then saving and re-booting. Pretty easy. Yesterday I very briefly used Vista for the first time since 7000 came out. (Philips MP3 player firmware manager can't see the USB playerin Win7). On previous attempts, I used Acronis DiskDirector (10 I believe) to mark my Vista partition as inactive and hidden and installed win7. The problem with that is that it also installed that 200mb partition on my Vista partition. Dual booting involved setting either the Win7 200mb boot partition, or Vista, to "active, and booting. The first approach above is the one I finally used and is vastly simpler. -- Kris It isn't so much the registry as it the boot loader. I'm currently running a prebeta tool that will hide both Vista and 7 from XP in a triple boot of the 3 versions. 7 was also setup on a separate drive by itself and both copies of 7 lack the system restore feature since 7 is still in beta form. -- Night Hawk |
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How do you mean Windows 7 lacks the system restore feature? It's present in
both my Windows 7 installs. Creates automatic restore points and I've set manual restore points as well. I check every so often to see if they've been deleted after I booted into a different OS, which they haven't. I did encounter a significant glitch after running a system restore in Windows 7 64 bit as it deleted all the existing restore points, but other than that it seemed to work. AFAIK boot loaders have nothing to do with System Restore. Your software may accomplish the same effect but a simple registry edit is all thats needed to hide the Vista drive from XP. No need to juggle hardware or change BIOS settings. "Night Hawk" wrote in message ... RalfG;959708 Wrote: Booting XP, Vista and 2 installs of Windows 7. Only the XP registry needs to be modified to hide the other OS partitions. Vista and Windows 7 System Restore can co-exist without modification, just don't set SR to monitor the other OS partitions. "Kris" a@xxxxxx wrote in message news:zhjet6ek348i$.dlg@xxxxxx On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:37:31 -0600, Night Hawk wrote: Victek;952517 Wrote: The Windows 7 beta doesn't see the system restore option available since it's still in beta form. To find out what and if any effect is seen on Vista's own restore points simply go into the feature as if you were going to swing the system back and use the option to select other then the latest available to see how many are present. Dual booting 7 along with Vista is no different there then dual booting two separate editions of Vista. Any presently onhand should be seen right away. having gone through all the Vista's-version-of-dual-boot, when I installed Win7, I unplugged my Vista bearing spindle, and installed Win7 and it's attendant 200mb boot partition on another spindle. Dual booting is now done by stopping at BIOS, changing the boot spindle, and then saving and re-booting. Pretty easy. Yesterday I very briefly used Vista for the first time since 7000 came out. (Philips MP3 player firmware manager can't see the USB playerin Win7). On previous attempts, I used Acronis DiskDirector (10 I believe) to mark my Vista partition as inactive and hidden and installed win7. The problem with that is that it also installed that 200mb partition on my Vista partition. Dual booting involved setting either the Win7 200mb boot partition, or Vista, to "active, and booting. The first approach above is the one I finally used and is vastly simpler. -- Kris It isn't so much the registry as it the boot loader. I'm currently running a prebeta tool that will hide both Vista and 7 from XP in a triple boot of the 3 versions. 7 was also setup on a separate drive by itself and both copies of 7 lack the system restore feature since 7 is still in beta form. -- Night Hawk |
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RalfG;960168 Wrote: How do you mean Windows 7 lacks the system restore feature? It's present in both my Windows 7 installs. Creates automatic restore points and I've set manual restore points as well. I check every so often to see if they've been deleted after I booted into a different OS, which they haven't. I did encounter a significant glitch after running a system restore in Windows 7 64 bit as it deleted all the existing restore points, but other than that it seemed to work. AFAIK boot loaders have nothing to do with System Restore. Your software may accomplish the same effect but a simple registry edit is all thats needed to hide the Vista drive from XP. No need to juggle hardware or change BIOS settings. "Night Hawk" wrote in message ... RalfG;959708 Wrote: Booting XP, Vista and 2 installs of Windows 7. Only the XP registry needs to be modified to hide the other OS partitions. Vista and Windows 7 System Restore can co-exist without modification, just don't set SR to monitor the other OS partitions. "Kris" a@xxxxxx wrote in message news:zhjet6ek348i$.dlg@xxxxxx It isn't so much the registry as it the boot loader. I'm currently running a prebeta tool that will hide both Vista and 7 from XP in a triple boot of the 3 versions. 7 was also setup on a separate drive by itself and both copies of 7 lack the system restore feature since 7 is still in beta form. -- Night Hawk I've installed both 32bit and 64bit public releases of 7 here to find no option for the system restore feature present. That also included replacing the 64bit beta with a second install of the 32bit release. I don't which release you are running there but when looking for the system restore points to see if they were present while beta testing another tool for protecting restore points when dual booting Vista or 7 with older versions the feature wasn't found. -- Night Hawk |