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Remote desktop connection



 
 
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Old January 29th 09, 01:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
RipperT[_2_]
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Default Remote desktop connection

I am trying to connect via RDC from a Vista Biz machine to a Vista Home
Premium machine. It is calling for my credentials and I can't find anything
that will tell me what my credentials are supposed to be. All I can find in
forums are questions about why Vista won't save them. I just want to know
what they are. Neither machine is password protected, so what should I
enter? The username for the Biz machine? The username for the Home machine?
Neither? What about the password? In any case, I am (of course) denied
access with a message saying "Your credentials did not work". Can someone
help?

rip


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Old January 29th 09, 06:14 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Sooner Al [MVP]
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Default Remote desktop connection

Vista Home Premium or Basic can not act as a Remote Desktop (RDC) host
computer only as a client.

You might look at VNC (I tend to recommend UltraVNC) as an alternative if
you want to remotely access/control a Vista Home or XP Home machine.

If your wanting to use RDC to access/control the Vista Business PC from the
Vista Home machine the login credentials (ie. user ID and password) used are
local to the Vista Business PC.

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Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows – Desktop User Experience)

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights...
The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com



"RipperT @nOsPaM.nEt" wrote:

I am trying to connect via RDC from a Vista Biz machine to a Vista Home
Premium machine. It is calling for my credentials and I can't find anything
that will tell me what my credentials are supposed to be. All I can find in
forums are questions about why Vista won't save them. I just want to know
what they are. Neither machine is password protected, so what should I
enter? The username for the Biz machine? The username for the Home machine?
Neither? What about the password? In any case, I am (of course) denied
access with a message saying "Your credentials did not work". Can someone
help?

rip



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Old January 29th 09, 06:21 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
RalfG[_3_]
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Default Remote desktop connection

Only your Vista Business machine can host an RDC connection. You can call in
to the Business machine from the Home machine but not the other way around.

From RDC help:
You cannot use Remote Desktop Connection to connect to remote (host)
computers running the following editions of Windows Vista:

a.. Windows Vista Starter

b.. Windows Vista Home Basic

c.. Windows Vista Home Basic N

d.. Windows Vista Home Premium

Not any XP version either.

I haven't got any PCs I can test it with here but I believe the credentials
you need for RDC are your username and password on the host computer (the
one you are trying to connect to). Apparently they cannot be saved in Vista
Home so you'd have to enter them in for every new RDC session

"RipperT @nOsPaM.nEt" RiPpErT wrote in message
...
I am trying to connect via RDC from a Vista Biz machine to a Vista Home
Premium machine. It is calling for my credentials and I can't find anything
that will tell me what my credentials are supposed to be. All I can find in
forums are questions about why Vista won't save them. I just want to know
what they are. Neither machine is password protected, so what should I
enter? The username for the Biz machine? The username for the Home machine?
Neither? What about the password? In any case, I am (of course) denied
access with a message saying "Your credentials did not work". Can someone
help?

rip


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Old January 29th 09, 07:33 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Sooner Al [MVP]
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Default Remote desktop connection

No, you can use Vista or XP or other versions of Windows to remotely
access/control XP Pro and MCE machines.

As far as saving login credentials see this FAQ entry for possible help...

http://blogs.msdn.com/ts/archive/200...credentials_do

--

Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows – Desktop User Experience)

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights...
The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com



"RalfG" wrote:

Only your Vista Business machine can host an RDC connection. You can call in
to the Business machine from the Home machine but not the other way around.

From RDC help:
You cannot use Remote Desktop Connection to connect to remote (host)
computers running the following editions of Windows Vista:

a.. Windows Vista Starter

b.. Windows Vista Home Basic

c.. Windows Vista Home Basic N

d.. Windows Vista Home Premium

Not any XP version either.

I haven't got any PCs I can test it with here but I believe the credentials
you need for RDC are your username and password on the host computer (the
one you are trying to connect to). Apparently they cannot be saved in Vista
Home so you'd have to enter them in for every new RDC session

"RipperT @nOsPaM.nEt" RiPpErT wrote in message
...
I am trying to connect via RDC from a Vista Biz machine to a Vista Home
Premium machine. It is calling for my credentials and I can't find anything
that will tell me what my credentials are supposed to be. All I can find in
forums are questions about why Vista won't save them. I just want to know
what they are. Neither machine is password protected, so what should I
enter? The username for the Biz machine? The username for the Home machine?
Neither? What about the password? In any case, I am (of course) denied
access with a message saying "Your credentials did not work". Can someone
help?

rip


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Old January 29th 09, 08:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Grand_Poobah[_2_]
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Default Remote desktop connection

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No, you can use Vista or XP or other versions of Windows to remotely
access/control XP Pro and MCE machines.

As far as saving login credentials see this FAQ entry for possible help...

http://blogs.msdn.com/ts/archive/200...credentials_do


Really? How does one go about that? I have 2 Vista Home Premium
machines that absolutely will NOT connect to any of my three XP Pro
machines. No matter how much I tinker with the policies (on ANY
machine) I keep getting "*this* machine has a policy against remote
connections" when I try to connect after giving my username/password.
Of course, there is NO explanation of what they mean by "*this*" - is it
the Vista machine or the XP machine?

GP
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Old January 30th 09, 01:04 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Sooner Al [MVP]
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Default Remote desktop connection

I presume this is in a home work group environment?

What is the exact error message you get?

You are trying to log in to the XP Pro machine as an administrator or as a
member of the Remote Desktop Users Group?

Can you log in to an XP machine with RDC from another XP PC?

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Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows – Desktop User Experience)

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights...
The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com



"Grand_Poobah" wrote:


Really? How does one go about that? I have 2 Vista Home Premium
machines that absolutely will NOT connect to any of my three XP Pro
machines. No matter how much I tinker with the policies (on ANY
machine) I keep getting "*this* machine has a policy against remote
connections" when I try to connect after giving my username/password.
Of course, there is NO explanation of what they mean by "*this*" - is it
the Vista machine or the XP machine?

GP

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Old January 30th 09, 02:08 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Grand_Poobah[_2_]
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Default Remote desktop connection

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I presume this is in a home work group environment?

What is the exact error message you get?

You are trying to log in to the XP Pro machine as an administrator or as a
member of the Remote Desktop Users Group?

Can you log in to an XP machine with RDC from another XP PC?



From Vista to XP Pro or from XP Pro to XP Pro I get this:

"The local polity of this system does not permit you to logon interactively"

and the app terminates.

There are, at any given time, 5 or 6 computers on the LAN. Mostly XP
Pro, but one Win2K and 2 Vista Home Premium SP1 (laptop & desktop). I
am blocked from wherever I try to wherever I connect by the same error.
I have created matching user accounts on all computers and made sure
that the "allow remote connections to/from this computer are all
checked. I have looked at GPEDIT.MSC until I start to squint but cannot
make it work.

It is not really a big deal, but I have one computer down in the
basement (it is XP Pro) that I would love to remote log in and do some
cleanup and whatnot as it is acting as my file server (it has a 500GB
internal and a 1TB USB drive on it). It is but a short walk downstairs,
but at my age and with the arthritis I have it is difficult.

GP
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Old January 30th 09, 02:16 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Grand_Poobah[_2_]
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Default Remote desktop connection

I also appear to have hijacked the original purpose of this thread. I
am very sorry Rip and will create a new thread if you want me to. Our
problem may very well turn out to be virtually the same thing.

GP
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Old January 30th 09, 11:10 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Sooner Al [MVP]
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Default Remote desktop connection

Generally that means the login ID your trying to use either does not have a
password (required by design) or its a limited account that is not part of
the Remote Desktop Users Group or both.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...bleremote.mspx

There is also this from former MVP Bill Sanderson...

http://tinyurl.com/cyeng2

I share your pain concerning your knees...:-)

--

Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows – Desktop User Experience)

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights...
The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

"Grand_Poobah" wrote:



From Vista to XP Pro or from XP Pro to XP Pro I get this:

"The local polity of this system does not permit you to logon interactively"

and the app terminates.

There are, at any given time, 5 or 6 computers on the LAN. Mostly XP
Pro, but one Win2K and 2 Vista Home Premium SP1 (laptop & desktop). I
am blocked from wherever I try to wherever I connect by the same error.
I have created matching user accounts on all computers and made sure
that the "allow remote connections to/from this computer are all
checked. I have looked at GPEDIT.MSC until I start to squint but cannot
make it work.

It is not really a big deal, but I have one computer down in the
basement (it is XP Pro) that I would love to remote log in and do some
cleanup and whatnot as it is acting as my file server (it has a 500GB
internal and a 1TB USB drive on it). It is but a short walk downstairs,
but at my age and with the arthritis I have it is difficult.

GP

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Old January 30th 09, 07:00 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
RipperT[_2_]
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Default Remote desktop connection

OK, this is all quite a bit to take in. I have 3 XP Pro, a Vista Home and a
Vista Biz to test this all out with, but I still don't know what my
credentials are supposed to be. I understand that they can't be saved in
certain versions, but what if I don't have any passwords on any of these
machines? Do I need to create passwords before I'll be able to use RDC?

Many thanks,

Ripper


"Sooner Al [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Vista Home Premium or Basic can not act as a Remote Desktop (RDC) host
computer only as a client.

You might look at VNC (I tend to recommend UltraVNC) as an alternative if
you want to remotely access/control a Vista Home or XP Home machine.

If your wanting to use RDC to access/control the Vista Business PC from
the
Vista Home machine the login credentials (ie. user ID and password) used
are
local to the Vista Business PC.

--

Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows - Desktop User Experience)

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights...
The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com



"RipperT @nOsPaM.nEt" wrote:

I am trying to connect via RDC from a Vista Biz machine to a Vista Home
Premium machine. It is calling for my credentials and I can't find
anything
that will tell me what my credentials are supposed to be. All I can find
in
forums are questions about why Vista won't save them. I just want to know
what they are. Neither machine is password protected, so what should I
enter? The username for the Biz machine? The username for the Home
machine?
Neither? What about the password? In any case, I am (of course) denied
access with a message saying "Your credentials did not work". Can someone
help?

rip





 




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