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Normal Boot has fuzzy monitor; Safe Mode Reboot loop- Vista 64



 
 
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Old February 11th 09, 09:04 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
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Default Normal Boot has fuzzy monitor; Safe Mode Reboot loop- Vista 64


When I boot my Vista 64 machine, which had been working normally until 2
days ago, the login screen comes up fuzzy--that is, I can tell it is the
login screen, but the image is so highly distorted as to be unusable.
The image is fine during the boot process (ie, the post graphics and the
green progress bar are fine) until the Vista circle pops up.

When I try to boot in safe mode, the screen image is fine, but the
problem is that once it gets to the login screen the computer will
reboot, even if I quickly enter the admin password.

If I use a bootable Linux disk (Puppy Linux), the entire computer works
fine. This indicates to me that I'm not dealing with a hardware issue.

From the Vista boot DVD I've run chkdsk, and it found no errors on any
drives. The startup repair utility also doesn't find anything wrong.

My theory is that the graphics driver for vista has either become
corrupted or was badly updated through windows update. Does this theory
have any merit? If so, how can I get into Vista to reinstall the video
drivers? Would renaming the driver files from ATI get me anywhere?

Or, what else should I check?


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Old February 11th 09, 09:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
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Default Normal Boot has fuzzy monitor; Safe Mode Reboot loop- Vista 64


Here are some more details as to what I've tried:

--Booting the last known good configuration also gives me the fuzzy
monitor.
--I've also tried restoring to older restore points, and this does not
resolve the issue.
--I cannot do an upgrade installation since my dvd is not sp1, and I
haven't made my own slipstream installation for it.


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Old February 12th 09, 05:03 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
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Default Normal Boot has fuzzy monitor; Safe Mode Reboot loop- Vista 64


I tried some more things last night, to no avail:
--I ran sfc from the boot dvd, it found no errors
--I fixed the master boot record for kicks--there were no errors.
--Ran bootlogging, and no drivers are failing to load.


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Old February 12th 09, 06:17 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
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Default Normal Boot has fuzzy monitor; Safe Mode Reboot loop- Vista 64


"paulnatale" wrote in message
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I tried some more things last night, to no avail:
--I ran sfc from the boot dvd, it found no errors
--I fixed the master boot record for kicks--there were no errors.
--Ran bootlogging, and no drivers are failing to load.


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It sounds like a corrupted video driver. Until Vista starts the
video is in VGA mode. The high resolution driver starts
just before the round logo appears. I don't think the video
driver is saved in restore points, so there will be nothing
to restore. Also, in Vista, safe mode does use a high res
video driver, which could be causing the reboot.

If you can get that far, uninstall the video driver, reboot,
then reinstall the latest driver from your card manufacturer,
or ATI, but not from Windows update. It's good practice
to never update hardware drivers from Windows update.



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Old February 16th 09, 03:42 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
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Default Normal Boot has fuzzy monitor; Safe Mode Reboot loop- Vista 64


This is fascinating. I'm able to use the video on the motherboard to
get into the computer. (I still can't boot into safe mode, it enters a
reboot loop). I cleared out the ATI drivers, and used driversweeper to
make sure it was clean. After reconnecting the AGP card, the computer
booted normally, and the monitor worked fine, albeit without some
features since I hadn't yet intalled the drivers.

Once I installed the drivers, the old behavior returned--the display
become distorted at the login screen. Thinking it might be an issue
with the new drivers, I've installed and uninstalled earlier versions
back to one I know for sure used to work. It doesn't work.

So, I think windows update is not the root cause of the problem, but I
have tightened the restrictions on windows update so that I'm aware of
everything being done there.

I'm going to try removing McAfee, but am really grasping at straws now.
My guess is that I'll end up doing a clean install of Vista, which I
think is absolutely ridiculous--like shooting a missile at a mouse.

Any other thoughts as to what is going on?


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Old February 20th 09, 03:35 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
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Default Normal Boot has fuzzy monitor; Safe Mode Reboot loop- Vista 64


I have had success. Here is the solution:

Uninstalling McAfee, and then using McAfee's removal tool (why they
don't make the removal tool = the uninstall exe is a bit of a mystery)
immediately made the computer perform better, however it didn't fix my
display issue.

I ran a scan from Driver Detective, and found that it thought my VIA
Chipset, Sata, CPU to AGP bridge drivers were out of date. I installed
the up to date drivers . . . scans still showed them out of date. I
paid for Driver Detective, and it updated a lot of drivers that looked
to me to be up to date already. Then I put my AGP card back in.
DriverDetective downloaded different drivers than are even available on
the ATI site to a normal person--in fact they were branded as AMD
drivers. It now works!

I don't work for DriverDetective, and am a little irritated that I paid
them. To their credit, I have no idea how they could tell I had the
wrong drivers or in the case of the ATI Radeon driver, how to get it
outside of them.


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