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Old March 2nd 09, 12:42 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
teknomedic
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Default Need more RAM ?


Didn't read everything... but I'd argue that the performace your looking
for is being more effected by your HDD transfer speeds and laptop
graphics card solution.... than the RAM.

Vista's an interesting beast... if you give it more RAM... it will use
more RAM. (just a general example). If you have 1GB of RAM vista will
use say 256mb.. but if you give it 3GB of RAM Vista will take 1.5GB of
RAM.. not true numbers, just an example).

Having more RAM can help... but if you're running 32bit vista don't go
over 3GB.

Beyond that... laptop performace is next degraded by Processor,
Graphics and HDD transfer speeds. Your proc seems fine (I'm running a
T5550 at 1.8Ghz) BUT... I have a 7200rpm SATA HDD and a built in mobile
nVidia 8800M GTS... gaming and performance for me are just fine. ((I'm
also running Vista 64bit with 4GB of RAM))


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Old March 2nd 09, 02:23 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
Billy Buddusky[_2_]
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Default Need more RAM ?

On Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:42:24 -0600, teknomedic
wrote:

Didn't read everything... but I'd argue that the performace your looking
for is being more effected by your HDD transfer speeds and laptop
graphics card solution.... than the RAM.

Vista's an interesting beast... if you give it more RAM... it will use
more RAM. (just a general example). If you have 1GB of RAM vista will
use say 256mb.. but if you give it 3GB of RAM Vista will take 1.5GB of
RAM.. not true numbers, just an example).


Bad numbers and bad thinking.

RAM is the first bottleneck. More RAM means - yes - that Windows will
use more, but that's so it won't have to use the pagefile as much.

If a program needs RAM, it will get it from Windows.
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Old March 2nd 09, 02:41 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
teknomedic
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Default Need more RAM ?


Billy Buddusky;981425 Wrote:
On Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:42:24 -0600, teknomedic
wrote:

Didn't read everything... but I'd argue that the performace your

looking
for is being more effected by your HDD transfer speeds and laptop
graphics card solution.... than the RAM.

Vista's an interesting beast... if you give it more RAM... it will use
more RAM. (just a general example). If you have 1GB of RAM vista will
use say 256mb.. but if you give it 3GB of RAM Vista will take 1.5GB of
RAM.. not true numbers, just an example).


Bad numbers and bad thinking.

RAM is the first bottleneck. More RAM means - yes - that Windows will
use more, but that's so it won't have to use the pagefile as much.

If a program needs RAM, it will get it from Windows.


Bad numbers... yes... I said that... it was just an example. Bad
thinking... how so? If your going to rip on an asnwer at least post the
reason for it.

A program won't "get it's RAM from windows either"... if Windows is
using 1.5GB of RAM... windows is using that RAM and the page file... the
program can only access the other 1.5GB of RAM or Windows has to swap
data to allow more data.

Of course windows will use the page file less with more RAM... but to
say that RAM is the FIRST bottle neck?... what your smoking? Before RAM
can use any of the data it has to be loaded off the hard drive. A
5400RPM ATA/33 HDD will load things into RAM much slower than a 7200RPM
SATA II Drive... RAM in both cases is still FAR faster than the HDD.

...I'm at work... I'll come back to this but have to go.


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