"Arakai" wrote in message
...

im having the same problem as this guy. can anyone help? i remember
solving this same problem but ive always forgot how to. please


--
Arakai



If you don't quote the original problem you are referring too, and don't
take the time and energy to describe your own problem, you are not likely to
obtain assistance anywhere.

--

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience & Security

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"Arakai" wrote in message
...

im having the same problem as this guy. can anyone help? i remember
solving this same problem but ive always forgot how to. please


--
Arakai



If you don't quote the original problem you are referring too, and don't
take the time and energy to describe your own problem, you are not
likely to obtain assistance anywhere.


Amen to that Richard. There seems to be a lot of "me too" posts lately.
If they don't quote the original post I just forget them.

Questor

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"Arakai" wrote in message
...

im having the same problem as this guy. can anyone help? i remember
solving this same problem but ive always forgot how to. please


--
Arakai



If you don't quote the original problem you are referring too, and don't
take the time and energy to describe your own problem, you are not
likely to obtain assistance anywhere.


Amen to that Richard. There seems to be a lot of "me too" posts lately.
If they don't quote the original post I just forget them.

Questor

Hi, Questor.

The problem is that these posters are not contacting the Microsoft public
newsgroups directly. They have subscribed to some "forum" on the Internet
that appears to be the home base of "experts". The user with a problem
posts the question to that "forum" - which does nothing but relay the post
to these newsgroups, hoping that someone here will volunteer an answer.
Then the "forum" can "slurp" or "leech" the free message and post it on
their "forum". They collect advertising revenue from clicks on their
"forum" and thereby profit from the free, voluntary efforts of those who
volunteer to help in newsgroups. This particular message from Arakai was
relayed via the "vBulletin USENET gateway" from the forum at
"NNTP-Posting-Host: vistax64.com 74.86.192.138", which proudly displays,
"Ads by Google".

Trouble is, as you see, that the "forum" doesn't bother to send any context
along with the bare-naked question. And, often, the question is like
Arakai's; that is, it's a followup to a previous question on the "forum";
Arakai can see the previous question, so he thinks that we can see it, too.
So neither the "forum" nor the individual poster bother to include the prior
message(s). We are left wondering what "the same problem as this guy" might
have been. Even if we spend some time composing a helpful answer, we have
no way of knowing if Arakai will ever see our work.

It's most frustrating!

Any time we see a post from ", especially if the
Subject starts with "", and most especially if the message starts with,
"I have the exact same problem...", then we know that we probably are
wasting our time to try to provide an answer. That's mostly because we can
only guess at what the actual question or problem might be, and because we
have no confidence that the questioner will ever have a chance to read our
response. The time that we spend answering these questions that go into a
black hole is time that we could spend helping users who will actually see
our responses.

And there's really no dependable way to get word back to the "forum member"
about what's happening.

THAT's why it appears that so many questions in these Microsoft public
newsgroups are ignored.

Arakai, if you DO happen to see this message, then "cut out the middleman"
and post directly to this newsgroup at:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof..._mainten ance

Be sure to tell us what your actual problem or question is and you are
almost sure to get a helpful response.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64

"Questor" wrote in message
...
---
"Arakai" wrote in message
...

im having the same problem as this guy. can anyone help? i remember
solving this same problem but ive always forgot how to. please


--
Arakai



If you don't quote the original problem you are referring too, and don't
take the time and energy to describe your own problem, you are not likely
to obtain assistance anywhere.


Amen to that Richard. There seems to be a lot of "me too" posts lately.
If they don't quote the original post I just forget them.

Questor

Hi, Questor.

The problem is that these posters are not contacting the Microsoft public
newsgroups directly. They have subscribed to some "forum" on the Internet
that appears to be the home base of "experts". The user with a problem
posts the question to that "forum" - which does nothing but relay the post
to these newsgroups, hoping that someone here will volunteer an answer.
Then the "forum" can "slurp" or "leech" the free message and post it on
their "forum". They collect advertising revenue from clicks on their
"forum" and thereby profit from the free, voluntary efforts of those who
volunteer to help in newsgroups. This particular message from Arakai was
relayed via the "vBulletin USENET gateway" from the forum at
"NNTP-Posting-Host: vistax64.com 74.86.192.138", which proudly displays,
"Ads by Google".

Trouble is, as you see, that the "forum" doesn't bother to send any context
along with the bare-naked question. And, often, the question is like
Arakai's; that is, it's a followup to a previous question on the "forum";
Arakai can see the previous question, so he thinks that we can see it, too.
So neither the "forum" nor the individual poster bother to include the prior
message(s). We are left wondering what "the same problem as this guy" might
have been. Even if we spend some time composing a helpful answer, we have
no way of knowing if Arakai will ever see our work.

It's most frustrating!

Any time we see a post from ", especially if the
Subject starts with "", and most especially if the message starts with,
"I have the exact same problem...", then we know that we probably are
wasting our time to try to provide an answer. That's mostly because we can
only guess at what the actual question or problem might be, and because we
have no confidence that the questioner will ever have a chance to read our
response. The time that we spend answering these questions that go into a
black hole is time that we could spend helping users who will actually see
our responses.

And there's really no dependable way to get word back to the "forum member"
about what's happening.

THAT's why it appears that so many questions in these Microsoft public
newsgroups are ignored.

Arakai, if you DO happen to see this message, then "cut out the middleman"
and post directly to this newsgroup at:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof..._mainten ance

Be sure to tell us what your actual problem or question is and you are
almost sure to get a helpful response.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64

"Questor" wrote in message
...
---
"Arakai" wrote in message
...

im having the same problem as this guy. can anyone help? i remember
solving this same problem but ive always forgot how to. please


--
Arakai



If you don't quote the original problem you are referring too, and don't
take the time and energy to describe your own problem, you are not likely
to obtain assistance anywhere.


Amen to that Richard. There seems to be a lot of "me too" posts lately.
If they don't quote the original post I just forget them.

Questor

RC ... thank you very much for this detail ... for years I have wondered why
I would only see the tail end of a thread, wondering what had gone wrong ...
where were the other posts in the thread? I have even unsubscribed and then
subscribed again ... now I know ... thanks ... plain ole vanilla


"R. C. White" wrote in message
...
Hi, Questor.

The problem is that these posters are not contacting the Microsoft public
newsgroups directly. They have subscribed to some "forum" on the Internet
that appears to be the home base of "experts". The user with a problem
posts the question to that "forum" - which does nothing but relay the post
to these newsgroups, hoping that someone here will volunteer an answer.
Then the "forum" can "slurp" or "leech" the free message and post it on
their "forum". They collect advertising revenue from clicks on their
"forum" and thereby profit from the free, voluntary efforts of those who
volunteer to help in newsgroups. This particular message from Arakai was
relayed via the "vBulletin USENET gateway" from the forum at
"NNTP-Posting-Host: vistax64.com 74.86.192.138", which proudly displays,
"Ads by Google".

Trouble is, as you see, that the "forum" doesn't bother to send any
context along with the bare-naked question. And, often, the question is
like Arakai's; that is, it's a followup to a previous question on the
"forum"; Arakai can see the previous question, so he thinks that we can
see it, too. So neither the "forum" nor the individual poster bother to
include the prior message(s). We are left wondering what "the same
problem as this guy" might have been. Even if we spend some time
composing a helpful answer, we have no way of knowing if Arakai will ever
see our work.

It's most frustrating!

Any time we see a post from ", especially if the
Subject starts with "", and most especially if the message starts with,
"I have the exact same problem...", then we know that we probably are
wasting our time to try to provide an answer. That's mostly because we
can only guess at what the actual question or problem might be, and
because we have no confidence that the questioner will ever have a chance
to read our response. The time that we spend answering these questions
that go into a black hole is time that we could spend helping users who
will actually see our responses.

And there's really no dependable way to get word back to the "forum
member" about what's happening.

THAT's why it appears that so many questions in these Microsoft public
newsgroups are ignored.

Arakai, if you DO happen to see this message, then "cut out the middleman"
and post directly to this newsgroup at:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof..._mainten ance

Be sure to tell us what your actual problem or question is and you are
almost sure to get a helpful response.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64

"Questor" wrote in message
...
---
"Arakai" wrote in message
...

im having the same problem as this guy. can anyone help? i remember
solving this same problem but ive always forgot how to. please


--
Arakai



If you don't quote the original problem you are referring too, and don't
take the time and energy to describe your own problem, you are not
likely to obtain assistance anywhere.


Amen to that Richard. There seems to be a lot of "me too" posts lately.
If they don't quote the original post I just forget them.

Questor

RC ... thank you very much for this detail ... for years I have wondered why
I would only see the tail end of a thread, wondering what had gone wrong ...
where were the other posts in the thread? I have even unsubscribed and then
subscribed again ... now I know ... thanks ... plain ole vanilla


"R. C. White" wrote in message
...
Hi, Questor.

The problem is that these posters are not contacting the Microsoft public
newsgroups directly. They have subscribed to some "forum" on the Internet
that appears to be the home base of "experts". The user with a problem
posts the question to that "forum" - which does nothing but relay the post
to these newsgroups, hoping that someone here will volunteer an answer.
Then the "forum" can "slurp" or "leech" the free message and post it on
their "forum". They collect advertising revenue from clicks on their
"forum" and thereby profit from the free, voluntary efforts of those who
volunteer to help in newsgroups. This particular message from Arakai was
relayed via the "vBulletin USENET gateway" from the forum at
"NNTP-Posting-Host: vistax64.com 74.86.192.138", which proudly displays,
"Ads by Google".

Trouble is, as you see, that the "forum" doesn't bother to send any
context along with the bare-naked question. And, often, the question is
like Arakai's; that is, it's a followup to a previous question on the
"forum"; Arakai can see the previous question, so he thinks that we can
see it, too. So neither the "forum" nor the individual poster bother to
include the prior message(s). We are left wondering what "the same
problem as this guy" might have been. Even if we spend some time
composing a helpful answer, we have no way of knowing if Arakai will ever
see our work.

It's most frustrating!

Any time we see a post from ", especially if the
Subject starts with "", and most especially if the message starts with,
"I have the exact same problem...", then we know that we probably are
wasting our time to try to provide an answer. That's mostly because we
can only guess at what the actual question or problem might be, and
because we have no confidence that the questioner will ever have a chance
to read our response. The time that we spend answering these questions
that go into a black hole is time that we could spend helping users who
will actually see our responses.

And there's really no dependable way to get word back to the "forum
member" about what's happening.

THAT's why it appears that so many questions in these Microsoft public
newsgroups are ignored.

Arakai, if you DO happen to see this message, then "cut out the middleman"
and post directly to this newsgroup at:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof..._mainten ance

Be sure to tell us what your actual problem or question is and you are
almost sure to get a helpful response.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64

"Questor" wrote in message
...
---
"Arakai" wrote in message
...

im having the same problem as this guy. can anyone help? i remember
solving this same problem but ive always forgot how to. please


--
Arakai



If you don't quote the original problem you are referring too, and don't
take the time and energy to describe your own problem, you are not
likely to obtain assistance anywhere.


Amen to that Richard. There seems to be a lot of "me too" posts lately.
If they don't quote the original post I just forget them.

Questor

Hi, Vanilla.

You're welcome, of course.

We know what the problem is. Many of us know. But we don't know how to fix
it. :(

We don't know how to spread the word except by one message at a time. And
those making money off those ads are not likely to help us. Or to help
their "members".

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64

"vanilla" wrote in message
...
RC ... thank you very much for this detail ... for years I have wondered
why I would only see the tail end of a thread, wondering what had gone
wrong ... where were the other posts in the thread? I have even
unsubscribed and then subscribed again ... now I know ... thanks ...
plain ole vanilla


"R. C. White" wrote in message
...
Hi, Questor.

The problem is that these posters are not contacting the Microsoft public
newsgroups directly. They have subscribed to some "forum" on the
Internet that appears to be the home base of "experts". The user with a
problem posts the question to that "forum" - which does nothing but relay
the post to these newsgroups, hoping that someone here will volunteer an
answer. Then the "forum" can "slurp" or "leech" the free message and post
it on their "forum". They collect advertising revenue from clicks on
their "forum" and thereby profit from the free, voluntary efforts of
those who volunteer to help in newsgroups. This particular message from
Arakai was relayed via the "vBulletin USENET gateway" from the forum at
"NNTP-Posting-Host: vistax64.com 74.86.192.138", which proudly displays,
"Ads by Google".

Trouble is, as you see, that the "forum" doesn't bother to send any
context along with the bare-naked question. And, often, the question is
like Arakai's; that is, it's a followup to a previous question on the
"forum"; Arakai can see the previous question, so he thinks that we can
see it, too. So neither the "forum" nor the individual poster bother to
include the prior message(s). We are left wondering what "the same
problem as this guy" might have been. Even if we spend some time
composing a helpful answer, we have no way of knowing if Arakai will ever
see our work.

It's most frustrating!

Any time we see a post from ", especially if
the Subject starts with "", and most especially if the message starts
with, "I have the exact same problem...", then we know that we probably
are wasting our time to try to provide an answer. That's mostly because
we can only guess at what the actual question or problem might be, and
because we have no confidence that the questioner will ever have a chance
to read our response. The time that we spend answering these questions
that go into a black hole is time that we could spend helping users who
will actually see our responses.

And there's really no dependable way to get word back to the "forum
member" about what's happening.

THAT's why it appears that so many questions in these Microsoft public
newsgroups are ignored.

Arakai, if you DO happen to see this message, then "cut out the
middleman" and post directly to this newsgroup at:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof..._mainten ance

Be sure to tell us what your actual problem or question is and you are
almost sure to get a helpful response.

RC

"Questor" wrote in message
...
---
"Arakai" wrote in message
...

im having the same problem as this guy. can anyone help? i remember
solving this same problem but ive always forgot how to. please


--
Arakai



If you don't quote the original problem you are referring too, and
don't take the time and energy to describe your own problem, you are
not likely to obtain assistance anywhere.


Amen to that Richard. There seems to be a lot of "me too" posts lately.
If they don't quote the original post I just forget them.

Questor

Hi, Vanilla.

You're welcome, of course.

We know what the problem is. Many of us know. But we don't know how to fix
it. :(

We don't know how to spread the word except by one message at a time. And
those making money off those ads are not likely to help us. Or to help
their "members".

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64

"vanilla" wrote in message
...
RC ... thank you very much for this detail ... for years I have wondered
why I would only see the tail end of a thread, wondering what had gone
wrong ... where were the other posts in the thread? I have even
unsubscribed and then subscribed again ... now I know ... thanks ...
plain ole vanilla


"R. C. White" wrote in message
...
Hi, Questor.

The problem is that these posters are not contacting the Microsoft public
newsgroups directly. They have subscribed to some "forum" on the
Internet that appears to be the home base of "experts". The user with a
problem posts the question to that "forum" - which does nothing but relay
the post to these newsgroups, hoping that someone here will volunteer an
answer. Then the "forum" can "slurp" or "leech" the free message and post
it on their "forum". They collect advertising revenue from clicks on
their "forum" and thereby profit from the free, voluntary efforts of
those who volunteer to help in newsgroups. This particular message from
Arakai was relayed via the "vBulletin USENET gateway" from the forum at
"NNTP-Posting-Host: vistax64.com 74.86.192.138", which proudly displays,
"Ads by Google".

Trouble is, as you see, that the "forum" doesn't bother to send any
context along with the bare-naked question. And, often, the question is
like Arakai's; that is, it's a followup to a previous question on the
"forum"; Arakai can see the previous question, so he thinks that we can
see it, too. So neither the "forum" nor the individual poster bother to
include the prior message(s). We are left wondering what "the same
problem as this guy" might have been. Even if we spend some time
composing a helpful answer, we have no way of knowing if Arakai will ever
see our work.

It's most frustrating!

Any time we see a post from ", especially if
the Subject starts with "", and most especially if the message starts
with, "I have the exact same problem...", then we know that we probably
are wasting our time to try to provide an answer. That's mostly because
we can only guess at what the actual question or problem might be, and
because we have no confidence that the questioner will ever have a chance
to read our response. The time that we spend answering these questions
that go into a black hole is time that we could spend helping users who
will actually see our responses.

And there's really no dependable way to get word back to the "forum
member" about what's happening.

THAT's why it appears that so many questions in these Microsoft public
newsgroups are ignored.

Arakai, if you DO happen to see this message, then "cut out the
middleman" and post directly to this newsgroup at:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof..._mainten ance

Be sure to tell us what your actual problem or question is and you are
almost sure to get a helpful response.

RC

"Questor" wrote in message
...
---
"Arakai" wrote in message
...

im having the same problem as this guy. can anyone help? i remember
solving this same problem but ive always forgot how to. please


--
Arakai



If you don't quote the original problem you are referring too, and
don't take the time and energy to describe your own problem, you are
not likely to obtain assistance anywhere.


Amen to that Richard. There seems to be a lot of "me too" posts lately.
If they don't quote the original post I just forget them.

Questor