I keep trying to defrag my laptop but files are still on there fragmented.
On my C drive the system volume is loaded with fragmented files. I shut
down restore 2-3 times rebooted and checked again and it still comes up with
fragmented files. On my D drive the folder MFT won't defrag either. I did
the same thing with restore on that drive too. How do I get these darn
files to defrag?

Debbie

You can't. There are certain system files (and files that are open and in
use) that can not be defragmented. Even 3rd party defragmenting tools follow
these rules.

The MFT can be defragmented by the use of an off line defragmenting run that
is accomplished during booting the computer. PerfectDisk and Diskeeper will
allow you to do this.

--

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience


"Debbie Graham" wrote in message
...
I keep trying to defrag my laptop but files are still on there fragmented.
On my C drive the system volume is loaded with fragmented files. I shut
down restore 2-3 times rebooted and checked again and it still comes up
with fragmented files. On my D drive the folder MFT won't defrag either. I
did the same thing with restore on that drive too. How do I get these darn
files to defrag?

Debbie

Debbie Graham;1010796 Wrote:
I keep trying to defrag my laptop but files are still on there
fragmented.
On my C drive the system volume is loaded with fragmented files. I
shut
down restore 2-3 times rebooted and checked again and it still comes up
with
fragmented files. On my D drive the folder MFT won't defrag either. I
did
the same thing with restore on that drive too. How do I get these darn
files to defrag?

Debbie

You can get ultimate offline defrag free by registration at Paragon
site:
http://www.paragon-software.com/regi...on/pm90se.html

They email you reg info and a login ID to download. This is like a
super duper defragger so unless you have most of your disk space free I
wouldn't venture to use it. But that's your decision. For laptop I
wouldn't be running on the battery when you do it


--
MilesAhead

"I don't want to belong to any club that would have me as a member."
- Groucho Marx

Just to clarify the Windows Defrag, and some logic on the process, from a
tech who's worked with two major computer companies.

Defragmenting hauls the pieces of a file, that were stored in fragments,
across the hard drive, back together.
Unless you're writing the "great Amercan novel", stored all in one file,
you're not actually going to do much with it.
Defragging was more important when hard drives were expensive and small. (5
GB)
When the drive got more than 70% full, it was a good idea to run it.
Drives are so cheap and almighty huge now, it almost isn't necessary.

The other thing the defrag process does, and much more important now, is to
re-align the physical location of the programs that are used most often, to
a better location, so that the drive head doesn't have to move so much to
get it, and it's faster. I usually recommend running the defrag once after
about 6 months of computer use, when you've set a pattern of which programs
you use most often, then again after about a year, and then maybe once a
year, tops.

The process is long and wearing on the drive. I like to compare it to
driving a car on the highway. It's good to take your car out on the
highway, and let the engine run for a while at higher speeds than the
regular daily commute in the city. I compare the defrag process to taking
your car from Washington down to Peru.

I know a good percentage of people who disagree with me. A good number of
them have replaced crashed hard drives.
I know an equal number that agree. None have had a hard drive crash, that
I've heard about.
Every drive I've had is still either in use, or usable, after 10 years.
(gotta clean that up...)

The important maintenance is 1. do the Windows update monthly 2. do the
virus/malware scans at least weekly. (updates daily)
....and have some fun on your computer.

"Debbie Graham" wrote in message
...
I keep trying to defrag my laptop but files are still on there fragmented.
On my C drive the system volume is loaded with fragmented files. I shut
down restore 2-3 times rebooted and checked again and it still comes up
with fragmented files. On my D drive the folder MFT won't defrag either. I
did the same thing with restore on that drive too. How do I get these darn
files to defrag?

Debbie

Ralph;1011094 Wrote:
Just to clarify the Windows Defrag, and some logic on the process, from
a
tech who's worked with two major computer companies.

Defragmenting hauls the pieces of a file, that were stored in
fragments,
across the hard drive, back together.
Unless you're writing the "great Amercan novel", stored all in one
file,
you're not actually going to do much with it.
Defragging was more important when hard drives were expensive and
small. (5
GB)
When the drive got more than 70% full, it was a good idea to run it.
Drives are so cheap and almighty huge now, it almost isn't necessary.

...


This kind of advice is only useful for people who run their drives at
near capacity. Of course if you have barely enough free space to
perform a defrag it will tax the system. I run my drives at less than
30% capacity and run 4 to 10 defrags per week. When you keep the
fragmentation down in the first place, a defrag with a "quick defragger"
type of program such as Auslogics Defrag, takes less than 10 mintues.
No matter how much technology is invested in hard drives, as long as
they have moving parts with a disk head which moves to access the data,
fragmentation will cause thrashing as the head jumps around to access
various points on the drive. If you don't notice much improvement after
a defrag it's probably because you run your drives so near capacity that
not much improvement is possible.

The more thorough type of defrag, such as we are discussing here, is
only necessary a couple of times a year. Once you have set up a pattern
where stuff is located on the drive, the "quick defraggers" will tend to
add on to those locations, since that's the easiest for them to
accomplish. So a thorough defrag is only needed every several months.
A quick defrag should be done on drives with lots of free space, often
to keep them tuned.

Just think of common sense. If you have to run around to various rooms
in your house to get all your stuff before you go out the door, it's
slower than if all the stuff is in one place. Same thing with HD data.


--
MilesAhead

"I don't want to belong to any club that would have me as a member."
- Groucho Marx

there is another alternative for vista...firstly u just need to open
cmd(as administrator)
then type in 'defrag c: -w'..or copy it..without the quot though..this
will do full fragmentation..you can also change to disk that u wish to
defrag..then wait till new line appear,that means the defrag is
finish..1st time i did this i have to wait about 2 hours though depends
the size of the hard disk..hehe after i defrag my hard disk increase by
1 gb..


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fariz

fariz;1015038 Wrote:
there is another alternative for vista...firstly u just need to open
cmd(as administrator)
then type in 'defrag c: -w'..or copy it..without the quot though..this
will do full fragmentation..you can also change to disk that u wish to
defrag..then wait till new line appear,that means the defrag is
finish..1st time i did this i have to wait about 2 hours though depends
the size of the hard disk..hehe after i defrag my hard disk increase by
1 gb..

And esp. if you try to get by with free defraggers, even though no
longer documented in Vista, the -b switch to defrag boot files still
works. Follow your procedure but type
defrag c: -b

on my system it takes about 10 minutes. The boot up may not be all
that much faster but it cuts down on drive thrashing anyway. It boots
smoother, for awhile.


--
MilesAhead

"I don't want to belong to any club that would have me as a member."
- Groucho Marx

Paragon software i thort was malicious, it also crashed my system, had
to complete clean install...

Download Auslogics Disk defrag its free, the Best I have ever seen.


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sparks559