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Is there a way to install Vista on an old PC that has no DVD drives?
Hello.
I have an old Dell Dimension 8250 test PC that I would like to install Vista onto. However, it has no DVD drives. I cannot even boot from external USB drives (3.5" disk drive, external HDDs, and DVD burner drive -- CMOS doesn't see them and found out PC doesn't support bootable USB devices). However, I do have enough HDD space (30 GB free on second partition) to copy Vista DVD (or make an ISO file) onto it through network (will take a while). Thank you in advance. -- "Ants can lift up to 50 times their own weight. And your monitor is missing. Time to bring out the bugspray." --BBspot's Geek Horoscopes (2/28/2003) /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Phil/Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address: NT ( ) or Ant is currently not listening to any songs on his home computer. |
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Is there a way to install Vista on an old PC that has no DVD drives?
Just buy a DVD drive, you can get one for under $20, or remove the drive
from your external enclosure and temporarily install it in the Dell. If the PC is that old it likely isn't going to be usable with Vista anyway. -- Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 "Ant" wrote in message ... Hello. I have an old Dell Dimension 8250 test PC that I would like to install Vista onto. However, it has no DVD drives. I cannot even boot from external USB drives (3.5" disk drive, external HDDs, and DVD burner drive -- CMOS doesn't see them and found out PC doesn't support bootable USB devices). However, I do have enough HDD space (30 GB free on second partition) to copy Vista DVD (or make an ISO file) onto it through network (will take a while). Thank you in advance. -- "Ants can lift up to 50 times their own weight. And your monitor is missing. Time to bring out the bugspray." --BBspot's Geek Horoscopes (2/28/2003) /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Phil/Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address: NT ( ) or Ant is currently not listening to any songs on his home computer. |
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Is there a way to install Vista on an old PC that has no DVD drives?
"Ant" wrote in message
... Hello. I have an old Dell Dimension 8250 test PC that I would like to install Vista onto. However, it has no DVD drives. I cannot even boot from external USB drives (3.5" disk drive, external HDDs, and DVD burner drive -- CMOS doesn't see them and found out PC doesn't support bootable USB devices). However, I do have enough HDD space (30 GB free on second partition) to copy Vista DVD (or make an ISO file) onto it through network (will take a while). Thank you in advance. -- "Ants can lift up to 50 times their own weight. And your monitor is missing. Time to bring out the bugspray." --BBspot's Geek Horoscopes (2/28/2003) /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Phil/Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address: NT ( ) or Ant is currently not listening to any songs on his home computer. Vista needs a modern, well specified system. What you are planning is a waste of time and money.. -- Mike Hall - MVP Windows Experience http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/ |
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Is there a way to install Vista on an old PC that has no DVD drives?
I'll agree with another poster that installing an internal DVD drive is the
sensible approach. That, unless you really want to do a lot of messing around. Here's an example: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827129023 (No the cheapest, but it has free shipping at the moment, so it may have the lowest net cost.) support.dell.com gives you the particulars for your system (It's fairly easy. You screw a couple of rails to the drive, and then slide/snap it in place.) Dell seems to like having ATAPI drives jumpered as "cable select". "Ant" wrote in message ... Hello. I have an old Dell Dimension 8250 test PC that I would like to install Vista onto. However, it has no DVD drives. I cannot even boot from external USB drives (3.5" disk drive, external HDDs, and DVD burner drive -- CMOS doesn't see them and found out PC doesn't support bootable USB devices). However, I do have enough HDD space (30 GB free on second partition) to copy Vista DVD (or make an ISO file) onto it through network (will take a while). Thank you in advance. -- "Ants can lift up to 50 times their own weight. And your monitor is missing. Time to bring out the bugspray." --BBspot's Geek Horoscopes (2/28/2003) /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Phil/Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address: NT ( ) or Ant is currently not listening to any songs on his home computer. |
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Is there a way to install Vista on an old PC that has no DVDdrives?
Ant wrote:
Hello. I have an old Dell Dimension 8250 test PC that I would like to install Vista onto. However, it has no DVD drives. I cannot even boot from external USB drives (3.5" disk drive, external HDDs, and DVD burner drive -- CMOS doesn't see them and found out PC doesn't support bootable USB devices). However, I do have enough HDD space (30 GB free on second partition) to copy Vista DVD (or make an ISO file) onto it through network (will take a while). Thank you in advance. I tried installing Win 7 beta on a five-year-old Dell laptop that I had upgraded from 256 mb to 1 gb memory. It worked, but I got a 640 by 480 display, no Internet, and no sound. Gave up, of course. Suspect you will be disappointed if you proceed. Bill |
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Is there a way to install Vista on an old PC that has no DVD drives?
Win7 Beta runs fine on my over 2 year HP laptop with 1GB of Ram.
What is the native resolution of the screen on you old Dell laptop? What happens when you try and increase the resolution? I believe you can order a set of VISTA installation CDs from MS for a minimal price provided you have a valid Vista retail product key. "Bill Sharpe" wrote in message ... Ant wrote: Hello. I have an old Dell Dimension 8250 test PC that I would like to install Vista onto. However, it has no DVD drives. I cannot even boot from external USB drives (3.5" disk drive, external HDDs, and DVD burner drive -- CMOS doesn't see them and found out PC doesn't support bootable USB devices). However, I do have enough HDD space (30 GB free on second partition) to copy Vista DVD (or make an ISO file) onto it through network (will take a while). Thank you in advance. I tried installing Win 7 beta on a five-year-old Dell laptop that I had upgraded from 256 mb to 1 gb memory. It worked, but I got a 640 by 480 display, no Internet, and no sound. Gave up, of course. Suspect you will be disappointed if you proceed. Bill |
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Is there a way to install Vista on an old PC that has no DVD drives?
Hi Phil--
The advice you got from Mike was very sound, and here's why. I have an old Dell Dimension 8100 and a new duo core. I've had a good time comparing how Vista worked on both of them, and since December the various builds of Windows 7 up through the most current available. You didn't state what your RAM, is but I have a good --it's comparable to what mine used to be out of the box. From Dell's Website the specs on your box a Pentium 4; CPU 2.66GHz, 512Mb of RAM, nvidia geforce4 mx420, Creative SB live! Series (WDM) I just want to give you a few remarks that may guide your choice. Mike's statement about cost is pretty relevant, so you might want to think this through, particularly now that a couple things are in play. I ran Vista since its Beta, and I've run Windows 7 for over 4 months on my Dell, but here's the upgrading I had to do so you might want to keep the "cost versus a new box at the prices available now" (just as Mike said) in mind. Another compelling reason is this--chips that are coming out now are going to make netbooks with duo core or multicore architecture dirt cheap. They are already all over the place between $300 and $400 and soon there will be deals from Bell South and Comcast, etc. to sell you a netbook for $50. Light and Cheap, Netbooks Are Poised to Reshape PC Industry http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/02/te...2netbooks.html "Most of the netbooks sold today run on an Intel chip called Atom, which is a lower-cost, lower-power version of the company's standard laptop chips." There is an even cheaper chip coming into netbooks called ARM based on cell technology, but it is really adapted to running Linux and not Windows Vista or Windows 7. To make my Dell run better, I added a GB of RAM, upgraded the original popsicle stick of a 64MB (yep that's what they shipped for 3 grand back in the day of 2001) and then to boot with my Nvidia GeForce card to see the Aero Candy features like Shake, Peak, Glass, et. al. I had to add a new PSU (they're very proprietary for Dell so I had to order it out of California and that was over $100). If you upgrade the RAM, and you could run it with 512 MB but it won't be as fast as more RAM, the RAM for that older Dell is quite expensive compared to RAM for newer boxes now. Fry's doesn't even carry it any more, but you could find it on the web. A newer Video card will cost you a couple hundred bucks plus, and keep in mind you're MOBO on that Dell prevents you from running PCI Express video cards. I don't know if you've replaced your hard drive, but after 7.5 years mine finally needed to be replaced so I bought 2 of them on sale. You aren't going to be able to run SATA Hard Drives on that Dell--trust me, because I tried. (You're limited to ATA). Your MoBo will limit you. I tried to setup RAID with a RAID adapter card, and the RAID splash screen isn't going to come up on that Dell. So these are the potential expenses you have. Your HD may never fail, but that's unlikely. You would need to add the other components. I found it fun to do; but again there's the cost benefit, and other people might call fun nuts. Currently my old Dell runs the latest build of Windows 7 loading web pages in the ballpark of a duo core, depending though on the amount of graphics but in general it's just not as fast. I'm not about to add anything else to it, it's been fun but I'll build a new PC first or wait for the next great corner turner in hardware. BTW pay attention to the prices that you can get new notebooks and netbooks for now, and that NY Times add. That's where Mike Hall was going with the cost comparison, and most people would go. Good luck, CH "Ant" wrote in message ... Hello. I have an old Dell Dimension 8250 test PC that I would like to install Vista onto. However, it has no DVD drives. I cannot even boot from external USB drives (3.5" disk drive, external HDDs, and DVD burner drive -- CMOS doesn't see them and found out PC doesn't support bootable USB devices). However, I do have enough HDD space (30 GB free on second partition) to copy Vista DVD (or make an ISO file) onto it through network (will take a while). Thank you in advance. -- "Ants can lift up to 50 times their own weight. And your monitor is missing. Time to bring out the bugspray." --BBspot's Geek Horoscopes (2/28/2003) /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Phil/Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address: NT ( ) or Ant is currently not listening to any songs on his home computer. |
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Is there a way to install Vista on an old PC that has no DVDdrives?
On 4/8/2009 8:35 AM PT, Mike Hall - MVP typed:
I have an old Dell Dimension 8250 test PC that I would like to install Vista onto. However, it has no DVD drives. I cannot even boot from external USB drives (3.5" disk drive, external HDDs, and DVD burner drive -- CMOS doesn't see them and found out PC doesn't support bootable USB devices). However, I do have enough HDD space (30 GB free on second partition) to copy Vista DVD (or make an ISO file) onto it through network (will take a while). Vista needs a modern, well specified system. What you are planning is a waste of time and money.. Well, it is for basic testings to see of my softwares work correctly. -- "Yo mama is so poor, I saw her fighting an ant for food." --unknown /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Phil/Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address: NT ( ) or Ant is currently not listening to any songs on his home computer. |
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Is there a way to install Vista on an old PC that has no DVDdrives?
Hmm, I'd like to avoid installing any new hardwares for an old PC and I
am only instaling Vista once. On 4/8/2009 8:44 AM PT, Bob Knowlden typed: I'll agree with another poster that installing an internal DVD drive is the sensible approach. That, unless you really want to do a lot of messing around. Here's an example: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827129023 (No the cheapest, but it has free shipping at the moment, so it may have the lowest net cost.) support.dell.com gives you the particulars for your system (It's fairly easy. You screw a couple of rails to the drive, and then slide/snap it in place.) Dell seems to like having ATAPI drives jumpered as "cable select". "Ant" wrote in message ... Hello. I have an old Dell Dimension 8250 test PC that I would like to install Vista onto. However, it has no DVD drives. I cannot even boot from external USB drives (3.5" disk drive, external HDDs, and DVD burner drive -- CMOS doesn't see them and found out PC doesn't support bootable USB devices). However, I do have enough HDD space (30 GB free on second partition) to copy Vista DVD (or make an ISO file) onto it through network (will take a while). Thank you in advance. -- "Yo mama is so poor, I saw her fighting an ant for food." --unknown /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Phil/Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address: NT ( ) or Ant is currently not listening to any songs on his home computer. |
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Is there a way to install Vista on an old PC that has no DVD drives?
I forgot to mention, I installed a new Sony Internal DVD after I got an
External DVD when Vista was beginning its Beta and realized I could not boot Vista from an external DVD. But remember the other things I had to do to that box to make Vista run well (more expensive RAM, a new Video Card if you want to see the Aero eye candy (if not you don't need it) and a new PSU to allow it to boot with the new video card. You can get DVDs cheap, but I wanted mine to last so I sprung for a top of the line Sony and I've loved it's performance. CH "Ant" wrote in message ... Hello. I have an old Dell Dimension 8250 test PC that I would like to install Vista onto. However, it has no DVD drives. I cannot even boot from external USB drives (3.5" disk drive, external HDDs, and DVD burner drive -- CMOS doesn't see them and found out PC doesn't support bootable USB devices). However, I do have enough HDD space (30 GB free on second partition) to copy Vista DVD (or make an ISO file) onto it through network (will take a while). Thank you in advance. -- "Ants can lift up to 50 times their own weight. And your monitor is missing. Time to bring out the bugspray." --BBspot's Geek Horoscopes (2/28/2003) /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Phil/Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address: NT ( ) or Ant is currently not listening to any songs on his home computer. |