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I have 2 laptops, both connected wirelessly to a Linksys router and both
connected to the internet using the same network SSID. However, even though they are on the same workgroup (MSHOME) and file and printer sharing is enabled on both, I cannot access the other computer from either laptop. So in the "my workgroup computers" on the XP laptop, I see the other one, but when I try to click on it to access the shared folders, it says it can't access it and that I may not have permission to access it. On the Vista laptop, when I view the full map of my network, I see the XP laptop, but I can't click on it to access the shared folders on that laptop. I see they are both connected to the router, and the router to the internet, but I can't access the other computer! Is there anything I can do? I did have file and printer sharing working about a month ago, and this was before I installed updates for Windows on the Vista computer...that may be the issue. Thank you very much for the help! |
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Daniel Ostro wrote:
I have 2 laptops, both connected wirelessly to a Linksys router and both connected to the internet using the same network SSID. However, even though they are on the same workgroup (MSHOME) and file and printer sharing is enabled on both, I cannot access the other computer from either laptop. So in the "my workgroup computers" on the XP laptop, I see the other one, but when I try to click on it to access the shared folders, it says it can't access it and that I may not have permission to access it. On the Vista laptop, when I view the full map of my network, I see the XP laptop, but I can't click on it to access the shared folders on that laptop. I see they are both connected to the router, and the router to the internet, but I can't access the other computer! Is there anything I can do? I did have file and printer sharing working about a month ago, and this was before I installed updates for Windows on the Vista computer...that may be the issue. I don't know what changed, but here is my normal troubleshooting information. Take what you need. ***** Excellent, thorough, yet easy to understand article about File/Printer Sharing in Vista. Includes details about sharing printers as well as files and folders: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx For XP, start by running the Network Setup Wizard on all machines (see caveat in Item A below). Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally caused by 1) a misconfigured firewall or overlooked firewall (including a stateful firewall in a VPN); or 2) inadvertently running two firewalls such as the built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party firewall; and/or 3) not having identical user accounts and passwords on all Workgroup machines; 4) trying to create shares where the operating system does not permit it. A. Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network (LAN) traffic as trusted. With Windows Firewall, this means allowing File/Printer Sharing on the Exceptions tab. Normally running the Network Setup Wizard on XP will take care of this for those machines.The only "gotcha" is that this will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you aren't running a third-party firewall or have an antivirus/security program with its own firewall component, then you're fine. With third-party firewalls, I usually configure the LAN allowance with an IP range. Ex. would be 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would substitute your correct subnet. Refer to any third party security program's Help or user forums for how to properly configure its firewall. Do not run more than one firewall. DO NOT TURN OFF FIREWALLS; CONFIGURE THEM CORRECTLY. B. For ease of organization, put all computers in the same Workgroup. This is done from the System applet in Control Panel, Computer Name tab. C. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just need to exist and match on all machines. DO NOT NEGLECT TO CREATE PASSWORDS, EVEN IF ONLY SIMPLE ONES. If you wish a machine to boot directly to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you can do this: XP - Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) - http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm Vista - Start OrbSearch boxtype: netplwiz [enter] Click on Continue (or supply an administrator's password) when prompted by UAC Uncheck the option "Users must enter a user name and password to use this computer". Select a user account to automatically log on by clicking on the desired account to highlight it and then hit OK. Enter the correct password for that user account (if there is one) when prompted. Leave it blank if there is no password (null). D. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center, turn off Simple File Sharing (Folder OptionsView tab). E. Create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users' home directories or Program Files, but you can share folders inside those directories. A better choice is to simply use the Shared Documents folder. See the first link above for details about Vista sharing. ***** Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ |
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Does Symantec Antivirus have it's own firewall? Do I have to change any
settings? "Malke" wrote: Daniel Ostro wrote: I have 2 laptops, both connected wirelessly to a Linksys router and both connected to the internet using the same network SSID. However, even though they are on the same workgroup (MSHOME) and file and printer sharing is enabled on both, I cannot access the other computer from either laptop. So in the "my workgroup computers" on the XP laptop, I see the other one, but when I try to click on it to access the shared folders, it says it can't access it and that I may not have permission to access it. On the Vista laptop, when I view the full map of my network, I see the XP laptop, but I can't click on it to access the shared folders on that laptop. I see they are both connected to the router, and the router to the internet, but I can't access the other computer! Is there anything I can do? I did have file and printer sharing working about a month ago, and this was before I installed updates for Windows on the Vista computer...that may be the issue. I don't know what changed, but here is my normal troubleshooting information. Take what you need. ***** Excellent, thorough, yet easy to understand article about File/Printer Sharing in Vista. Includes details about sharing printers as well as files and folders: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx For XP, start by running the Network Setup Wizard on all machines (see caveat in Item A below). Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally caused by 1) a misconfigured firewall or overlooked firewall (including a stateful firewall in a VPN); or 2) inadvertently running two firewalls such as the built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party firewall; and/or 3) not having identical user accounts and passwords on all Workgroup machines; 4) trying to create shares where the operating system does not permit it. A. Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network (LAN) traffic as trusted. With Windows Firewall, this means allowing File/Printer Sharing on the Exceptions tab. Normally running the Network Setup Wizard on XP will take care of this for those machines.The only "gotcha" is that this will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you aren't running a third-party firewall or have an antivirus/security program with its own firewall component, then you're fine. With third-party firewalls, I usually configure the LAN allowance with an IP range. Ex. would be 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would substitute your correct subnet. Refer to any third party security program's Help or user forums for how to properly configure its firewall. Do not run more than one firewall. DO NOT TURN OFF FIREWALLS; CONFIGURE THEM CORRECTLY. B. For ease of organization, put all computers in the same Workgroup. This is done from the System applet in Control Panel, Computer Name tab. C. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just need to exist and match on all machines. DO NOT NEGLECT TO CREATE PASSWORDS, EVEN IF ONLY SIMPLE ONES. If you wish a machine to boot directly to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you can do this: XP - Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) - http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm Vista - Start OrbSearch boxtype: netplwiz [enter] Click on Continue (or supply an administrator's password) when prompted by UAC Uncheck the option "Users must enter a user name and password to use this computer". Select a user account to automatically log on by clicking on the desired account to highlight it and then hit OK. Enter the correct password for that user account (if there is one) when prompted. Leave it blank if there is no password (null). D. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center, turn off Simple File Sharing (Folder OptionsView tab). E. Create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users' home directories or Program Files, but you can share folders inside those directories. A better choice is to simply use the Shared Documents folder. See the first link above for details about Vista sharing. ***** Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ |
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Daniel Ostro wrote:
Does Symantec Antivirus have it's own firewall? Do I have to change any settings? The versions I've seen do, yes. Sometimes it's called "Internet Worm Protection". And yes, of course you need to configure it to allow LAN traffic. And you need to make sure you only have one firewall running. I can't say whether you need to change settings because I don't know how you have things set now. I can't answer any questions about configuring Norton products because I don't support them and I won't install them for clients. I recommend either NOD32 (commercial) or Avast (free) antivirus programs and the built-in Windows Firewall for most people. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ |
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Thank you.
I am also having an issue because I can't ping my Vista laptop when I try on my XP laptop. How can I fix this and why does this happen? "Malke" wrote: Daniel Ostro wrote: Does Symantec Antivirus have it's own firewall? Do I have to change any settings? The versions I've seen do, yes. Sometimes it's called "Internet Worm Protection". And yes, of course you need to configure it to allow LAN traffic. And you need to make sure you only have one firewall running. I can't say whether you need to change settings because I don't know how you have things set now. I can't answer any questions about configuring Norton products because I don't support them and I won't install them for clients. I recommend either NOD32 (commercial) or Avast (free) antivirus programs and the built-in Windows Firewall for most people. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ |
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Daniel Ostro wrote:
Thank you. I am also having an issue because I can't ping my Vista laptop when I try on my XP laptop. How can I fix this and why does this happen? Fix the network file/printer sharing issue and properly configure your firewalls. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ |
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On Apr 24, 4:54*am, Malke wrote:
Daniel Ostro wrote: I have 2 laptops, both connected wirelessly to a Linksys router and both ....snip... See the first link above for details about Vista sharing. ***** Malke Feedback: This did the trick. I had the same problem and checked the three machines we use in the house (XP Pro, Vista Home, and Vista Business) that were unable to communicate with each other. Turned out to be McAfee firewall turned on, on two of the units (one of those 3- PC anti-everything packages). I turned off the McAfee firewalls on the XP and VistaBus machine, and my wife can now print from the other end of the house and I can access my data files from the garage. Thank you Very Much. Otter |