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Vista B & R list deleted backup files - HELP



 
 
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Old May 7th 09, 10:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
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Default Vista B & R list deleted backup files - HELP


Vista backup and restore is setup to automatically create a backup every
Friday night at 9:00 PM to an external disk. After a month I no longer
need some of the older backup files so I deleted two via windows
explorer because there is no way that I've found to delete old backup
files using the backup and restore center.

Now when I go into the restore files (advanced) screen that list the
available backup files on my external disk, I see the two backup files I
deleted.

The question I have is, what needs to be done so that Vista backup and
restore does not list backup files that have been deleted?

thanks


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Old May 7th 09, 11:51 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
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Default Vista B & R list deleted backup files - HELP

Go into B&R and create a new full backup thru 'change settings'. The next
weeks B&R will append to that (incremental backup). After the full backup is
completed you can delete the entire 'old' backup set.

The way you did this probably made the entire backup set useless

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Vista backup and restore is setup to automatically create a backup every
Friday night at 9:00 PM to an external disk. After a month I no longer
need some of the older backup files so I deleted two via windows
explorer because there is no way that I've found to delete old backup
files using the backup and restore center.

Now when I go into the restore files (advanced) screen that list the
available backup files on my external disk, I see the two backup files I
deleted.

The question I have is, what needs to be done so that Vista backup and
restore does not list backup files that have been deleted?

thanks


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Old May 8th 09, 12:06 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
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Default Vista B & R list deleted backup files - HELP


Thanks for the feedback. I'm new to B & R so not sure I understand your
answer.

The B & R does not appear to do a "full" backup unless I manually
request it. So does this mean that I can never delete any of the older
incremental backups within the set without manually running a new "full"
backup first?

After I create a new "full" backup what are the correct steps to delete
the previous backup set so that it does not show up in the restore
list?

thanks.


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Old May 8th 09, 03:42 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
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Default Vista B & R list deleted backup files - HELP

In message dtinman12
was claimed to have wrote:

Thanks for the feedback. I'm new to B & R so not sure I understand your
answer.

The B & R does not appear to do a "full" backup unless I manually
request it. So does this mean that I can never delete any of the older
incremental backups within the set without manually running a new "full"
backup first?

After I create a new "full" backup what are the correct steps to delete
the previous backup set so that it does not show up in the restore
list?


At this point I'd suggest deleting the entire "WindowsImageBackup"
directory, it's very likely that what you have won't be useful in a
restore.

Vista's backup and restore components are essentially incremental, you
can't delete old backups yourself as far as I know (although I've
honestly never tried) but Vista does attempt to manage the available
disk space on the backup destination and will merge changes forward.

In other words, older backups should roll off naturally as disk space
needs demand it.
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Old May 9th 09, 01:13 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
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Default Vista B & R list deleted backup files - HELP

As far as I can tell, older backups do not roll off naturally as expected by
the poster below.

What I do: I let the backups accumulate incrementally and automatically on
my external hard drive which I use only for Vista file backups. When the
drive is nearly full, I delete the whole lot and start over with a new
complete backup. Vista's backup algorithm can be seen at this URL:

http://cfsbloggers.members.winisp.ne...crementall.jpg

You will see that, eventually, it will try to add a full backup on top of
whatever you have anyway. That is usually the point when I delete and start
over. I have mine set to auto backup once per week and can usually get about
three months before I have to start over on my 160GB external drive.

The length of time is also dependent on what kind of work you are doing.
Last year I did a did a lot of video editing that created lots of big files
and I had to restart the backup sooner than than normal. Actually, the video
files were also eating up my regular hard drive, so I bought a 2nd external
drive just to offload and store the video files; I use DVD's to backup the
video store.
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In message dtinman12
was claimed to have wrote:

Thanks for the feedback. I'm new to B & R so not sure I understand your
answer.

The B & R does not appear to do a "full" backup unless I manually
request it. So does this mean that I can never delete any of the older
incremental backups within the set without manually running a new "full"
backup first?

After I create a new "full" backup what are the correct steps to delete
the previous backup set so that it does not show up in the restore
list?


At this point I'd suggest deleting the entire "WindowsImageBackup"
directory, it's very likely that what you have won't be useful in a
restore.

Vista's backup and restore components are essentially incremental, you
can't delete old backups yourself as far as I know (although I've
honestly never tried) but Vista does attempt to manage the available
disk space on the backup destination and will merge changes forward.

In other words, older backups should roll off naturally as disk space
needs demand it.


 




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