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May 10th 09, 07:16 PM
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1 TB External Hard Drive Problem
You are right. I strayed from the path of it being an external hard drive.
-- Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience "RalfG" wrote in message ... External drives don't typically show up in BIOS. I can't say if that's true for E-SATA but USB and firewire don't. Those don't show up anywhere until after Windows loads their device drivers. The external drive should have entries in Device Manager. As well as being listed under Disk drives it would also be listed under USB controllers as a USB Mass storage device, or under IEEE 1394 devices. Not sure where-all E-SATA drives show up. Some external USB harddrives are not detected properly if they are connected and running while the computer is booting up. In that case Windows installs a dummy unidentified device driver in its place. Cycling the power on the drive often does nothing to help Windows find it because the unidentified device driver is actually on the USB port that the harddrive is connected to. Moving the drive to a different USB port would be one workaround. First choice would be to uninstall the unidentified USB device, turn off the drive then reboot. When Windows is loaded turn on the external drive and it should be detected properly again as a USB Mass storage device. After Windows redetects the drive it should hopefully reappear in the Drive Management list. If not you may need to use the external drive manufacturer's utility to partition the drive. "Richard Urban" wrote in message ... Every computer has it's own methodology to get into the bios. Turn off the computer. Turn it back on. Watch the screen carefully. You will see a message along the line of "press "whatever key" to enter the bios. Then look around the bios for a page that shows the drives connected to the computer. Exit the bios **WITHOUT** saving any changes you may have inadvertently made. -- Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience "Walter Goldschmidt" wrote in message ... I don't know how to check it in the bios. How about a helping hand here with a brief instruction on how to do that? -- Walt "Richard Urban" wrote in message ... Again, is it listed in the bios? If not the operating system can never see it either. -- Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience "Walter Goldschmidt" wrote in message ... In device manager under disk drives are 6 USB devices. 1. - ST3250310AS ATA device 2. - Teac USB HS-CF card USB device 3. - Teac USB HS-MS card USB device 4. - Teac USB HS-SD card USB device 5. - Teac USB HS-xD/SM card USB device 6. - WDC WDIO EAVS-00D7B1 It allowed me to delete the top and bottom one. The other 4 reinstalled as fast as I could uninstall them. After rebooting this did not help either. The external drive is not listed in computer or disk management. There has to be a way to get it back. -- Walt "Richard Urban" wrote in message ... You are saying that the drive itself is not visible in Vista's Disk Management utility? Go to device manager. Go to drives and uninstall/delete the drive. Shut down the computer. When you restart is the drive seen in device manager after a redetection? If not, see if the drive is seen in the computers bios. What is the drives designation? -- Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience "Walter Goldschmidt" wrote in message ... Rebooting didn't help. -- Walt "Richard Urban" wrote in message ... Reboot. See if it is now visible in Disk Management. -- Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience "Walter Goldschmidt" wrote in message ... I got a large external hard drive today and it's instructions say to go to disk management and do format and partition. I messed up and deleted the drives volume. Now it is not listed in disk management. I looked everywhere to get it back and can't figure it out. How do I make Vista recognize this drive again so I can partition and format it? -- Walt 
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May 11th 09, 03:23 AM
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1 TB External Hard Drive Problem
Under universal serial bus controllers I found 2 USB mass storage devices
and removed them. I then rebooted the computer and it replaced the drivers for those 2 devices. I then plugged in 1 TB drive and checked under computer and disk management and it did not appear. Nothing was listed under disk drives. There were no IEEE 1394 devices listed anywhere. I sent a email to the seller too see if he could give me some advice. Maybe I should contact the manufacturer. -- Walt "RalfG" wrote in message ... External drives don't typically show up in BIOS. I can't say if that's true for E-SATA but USB and firewire don't. Those don't show up anywhere until after Windows loads their device drivers. The external drive should have entries in Device Manager. As well as being listed under Disk drives it would also be listed under USB controllers as a USB Mass storage device, or under IEEE 1394 devices. Not sure where-all E-SATA drives show up. Some external USB harddrives are not detected properly if they are connected and running while the computer is booting up. In that case Windows installs a dummy unidentified device driver in its place. Cycling the power on the drive often does nothing to help Windows find it because the unidentified device driver is actually on the USB port that the harddrive is connected to. Moving the drive to a different USB port would be one workaround. First choice would be to uninstall the unidentified USB device, turn off the drive then reboot. When Windows is loaded turn on the external drive and it should be detected properly again as a USB Mass storage device. After Windows redetects the drive it should hopefully reappear in the Drive Management list. If not you may need to use the external drive manufacturer's utility to partition the drive. "Richard Urban" wrote in message ... Every computer has it's own methodology to get into the bios. Turn off the computer. Turn it back on. Watch the screen carefully. You will see a message along the line of "press "whatever key" to enter the bios. Then look around the bios for a page that shows the drives connected to the computer. Exit the bios **WITHOUT** saving any changes you may have inadvertently made. -- Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience "Walter Goldschmidt" wrote in message ... I don't know how to check it in the bios. How about a helping hand here with a brief instruction on how to do that? -- Walt "Richard Urban" wrote in message ... Again, is it listed in the bios? If not the operating system can never see it either. -- Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience "Walter Goldschmidt" wrote in message ... In device manager under disk drives are 6 USB devices. 1. - ST3250310AS ATA device 2. - Teac USB HS-CF card USB device 3. - Teac USB HS-MS card USB device 4. - Teac USB HS-SD card USB device 5. - Teac USB HS-xD/SM card USB device 6. - WDC WDIO EAVS-00D7B1 It allowed me to delete the top and bottom one. The other 4 reinstalled as fast as I could uninstall them. After rebooting this did not help either. The external drive is not listed in computer or disk management. There has to be a way to get it back. -- Walt "Richard Urban" wrote in message ... You are saying that the drive itself is not visible in Vista's Disk Management utility? Go to device manager. Go to drives and uninstall/delete the drive. Shut down the computer. When you restart is the drive seen in device manager after a redetection? If not, see if the drive is seen in the computers bios. What is the drives designation? -- Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience "Walter Goldschmidt" wrote in message ... Rebooting didn't help. -- Walt "Richard Urban" wrote in message ... Reboot. See if it is now visible in Disk Management. -- Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience "Walter Goldschmidt" wrote in message ... I got a large external hard drive today and it's instructions say to go to disk management and do format and partition. I messed up and deleted the drives volume. Now it is not listed in disk management. I looked everywhere to get it back and can't figure it out. How do I make Vista recognize this drive again so I can partition and format it? -- Walt
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May 11th 09, 12:17 PM
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1 TB External Hard Drive Problem
Maybe the drive has failed. It happens.
-- Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience "Walter Goldschmidt" wrote in message ... Under universal serial bus controllers I found 2 USB mass storage devices and removed them. I then rebooted the computer and it replaced the drivers for those 2 devices. I then plugged in 1 TB drive and checked under computer and disk management and it did not appear. Nothing was listed under disk drives. There were no IEEE 1394 devices listed anywhere. I sent a email to the seller too see if he could give me some advice. Maybe I should contact the manufacturer. -- Walt "RalfG" wrote in message ... External drives don't typically show up in BIOS. I can't say if that's true for E-SATA but USB and firewire don't. Those don't show up anywhere until after Windows loads their device drivers. The external drive should have entries in Device Manager. As well as being listed under Disk drives it would also be listed under USB controllers as a USB Mass storage device, or under IEEE 1394 devices. Not sure where-all E-SATA drives show up. Some external USB harddrives are not detected properly if they are connected and running while the computer is booting up. In that case Windows installs a dummy unidentified device driver in its place. Cycling the power on the drive often does nothing to help Windows find it because the unidentified device driver is actually on the USB port that the harddrive is connected to. Moving the drive to a different USB port would be one workaround. First choice would be to uninstall the unidentified USB device, turn off the drive then reboot. When Windows is loaded turn on the external drive and it should be detected properly again as a USB Mass storage device. After Windows redetects the drive it should hopefully reappear in the Drive Management list. If not you may need to use the external drive manufacturer's utility to partition the drive. "Richard Urban" wrote in message ... Every computer has it's own methodology to get into the bios. Turn off the computer. Turn it back on. Watch the screen carefully. You will see a message along the line of "press "whatever key" to enter the bios. Then look around the bios for a page that shows the drives connected to the computer. Exit the bios **WITHOUT** saving any changes you may have inadvertently made. -- Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience "Walter Goldschmidt" wrote in message ... I don't know how to check it in the bios. How about a helping hand here with a brief instruction on how to do that? -- Walt "Richard Urban" wrote in message ... Again, is it listed in the bios? If not the operating system can never see it either. -- Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience "Walter Goldschmidt" wrote in message ... In device manager under disk drives are 6 USB devices. 1. - ST3250310AS ATA device 2. - Teac USB HS-CF card USB device 3. - Teac USB HS-MS card USB device 4. - Teac USB HS-SD card USB device 5. - Teac USB HS-xD/SM card USB device 6. - WDC WDIO EAVS-00D7B1 It allowed me to delete the top and bottom one. The other 4 reinstalled as fast as I could uninstall them. After rebooting this did not help either. The external drive is not listed in computer or disk management. There has to be a way to get it back. -- Walt "Richard Urban" wrote in message ... You are saying that the drive itself is not visible in Vista's Disk Management utility? Go to device manager. Go to drives and uninstall/delete the drive. Shut down the computer. When you restart is the drive seen in device manager after a redetection? If not, see if the drive is seen in the computers bios. What is the drives designation? -- Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience "Walter Goldschmidt" wrote in message ... Rebooting didn't help. -- Walt "Richard Urban" wrote in message ... Reboot. See if it is now visible in Disk Management. -- Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience "Walter Goldschmidt" wrote in message ... I got a large external hard drive today and it's instructions say to go to disk management and do format and partition. I messed up and deleted the drives volume. Now it is not listed in disk management. I looked everywhere to get it back and can't figure it out. How do I make Vista recognize this drive again so I can partition and format it? -- Walt
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May 11th 09, 02:03 PM
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1 TB External Hard Drive Problem
I figured it out. Under disk management at the top of window is listed
drives C: & D: which are 2 partitions on my internal hard drive. Down below in window are listed disks 0 thru disk 6. Disk 0 is my internal hard drive. I then highlighted each disk and right clicked and then clicked on properties. I did this for each disk until I found my 1 TB external hard drive. I then put cursor in blank area to right of that disk and right clicked. It then allowed me to create a volume and format it. That fixed it. I knew there was a way. Thanks for every ones input sometimes you have to figure it out yourself. -- Walt "Richard Urban" wrote in message ... Maybe the drive has failed. It happens. -- Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience "Walter Goldschmidt" wrote in message ... Under universal serial bus controllers I found 2 USB mass storage devices and removed them. I then rebooted the computer and it replaced the drivers for those 2 devices. I then plugged in 1 TB drive and checked under computer and disk management and it did not appear. Nothing was listed under disk drives. There were no IEEE 1394 devices listed anywhere. I sent a email to the seller too see if he could give me some advice. Maybe I should contact the manufacturer. -- Walt "RalfG" wrote in message ... External drives don't typically show up in BIOS. I can't say if that's true for E-SATA but USB and firewire don't. Those don't show up anywhere until after Windows loads their device drivers. The external drive should have entries in Device Manager. As well as being listed under Disk drives it would also be listed under USB controllers as a USB Mass storage device, or under IEEE 1394 devices. Not sure where-all E-SATA drives show up. Some external USB harddrives are not detected properly if they are connected and running while the computer is booting up. In that case Windows installs a dummy unidentified device driver in its place. Cycling the power on the drive often does nothing to help Windows find it because the unidentified device driver is actually on the USB port that the harddrive is connected to. Moving the drive to a different USB port would be one workaround. First choice would be to uninstall the unidentified USB device, turn off the drive then reboot. When Windows is loaded turn on the external drive and it should be detected properly again as a USB Mass storage device. After Windows redetects the drive it should hopefully reappear in the Drive Management list. If not you may need to use the external drive manufacturer's utility to partition the drive. "Richard Urban" wrote in message ... Every computer has it's own methodology to get into the bios. Turn off the computer. Turn it back on. Watch the screen carefully. You will see a message along the line of "press "whatever key" to enter the bios. Then look around the bios for a page that shows the drives connected to the computer. Exit the bios **WITHOUT** saving any changes you may have inadvertently made. -- Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience "Walter Goldschmidt" wrote in message ... I don't know how to check it in the bios. How about a helping hand here with a brief instruction on how to do that? -- Walt "Richard Urban" wrote in message ... Again, is it listed in the bios? If not the operating system can never see it either. -- Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience "Walter Goldschmidt" wrote in message ... In device manager under disk drives are 6 USB devices. 1. - ST3250310AS ATA device 2. - Teac USB HS-CF card USB device 3. - Teac USB HS-MS card USB device 4. - Teac USB HS-SD card USB device 5. - Teac USB HS-xD/SM card USB device 6. - WDC WDIO EAVS-00D7B1 It allowed me to delete the top and bottom one. The other 4 reinstalled as fast as I could uninstall them. After rebooting this did not help either. The external drive is not listed in computer or disk management. There has to be a way to get it back. -- Walt "Richard Urban" wrote in message ... You are saying that the drive itself is not visible in Vista's Disk Management utility? Go to device manager. Go to drives and uninstall/delete the drive. Shut down the computer. When you restart is the drive seen in device manager after a redetection? If not, see if the drive is seen in the computers bios. What is the drives designation? -- Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience "Walter Goldschmidt" wrote in message ... Rebooting didn't help. -- Walt "Richard Urban" wrote in message ... Reboot. See if it is now visible in Disk Management. -- Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience "Walter Goldschmidt" wrote in message ... I got a large external hard drive today and it's instructions say to go to disk management and do format and partition. I messed up and deleted the drives volume. Now it is not listed in disk management. I looked everywhere to get it back and can't figure it out. How do I make Vista recognize this drive again so I can partition and format it? -- Walt
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May 11th 09, 02:49 PM
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1 TB External Hard Drive Problem
You threw me through a loop by saying that the drive was not even seen by
disk management. We/I can only work with what we/I are presented with. -- Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience "Walter Goldschmidt" wrote in message ... I figured it out. Under disk management at the top of window is listed drives C: & D: which are 2 partitions on my internal hard drive. Down below in window are listed disks 0 thru disk 6. Disk 0 is my internal hard drive. I then highlighted each disk and right clicked and then clicked on properties. I did this for each disk until I found my 1 TB external hard drive. I then put cursor in blank area to right of that disk and right clicked. It then allowed me to create a volume and format it. That fixed it. I knew there was a way. Thanks for every ones input sometimes you have to figure it out yourself. -- Walt "Richard Urban" wrote in message ... Maybe the drive has failed. It happens. -- Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience "Walter Goldschmidt" wrote in message ... Under universal serial bus controllers I found 2 USB mass storage devices and removed them. I then rebooted the computer and it replaced the drivers for those 2 devices. I then plugged in 1 TB drive and checked under computer and disk management and it did not appear. Nothing was listed under disk drives. There were no IEEE 1394 devices listed anywhere. I sent a email to the seller too see if he could give me some advice. Maybe I should contact the manufacturer. -- Walt "RalfG" wrote in message ... External drives don't typically show up in BIOS. I can't say if that's true for E-SATA but USB and firewire don't. Those don't show up anywhere until after Windows loads their device drivers. The external drive should have entries in Device Manager. As well as being listed under Disk drives it would also be listed under USB controllers as a USB Mass storage device, or under IEEE 1394 devices. Not sure where-all E-SATA drives show up. Some external USB harddrives are not detected properly if they are connected and running while the computer is booting up. In that case Windows installs a dummy unidentified device driver in its place. Cycling the power on the drive often does nothing to help Windows find it because the unidentified device driver is actually on the USB port that the harddrive is connected to. Moving the drive to a different USB port would be one workaround. First choice would be to uninstall the unidentified USB device, turn off the drive then reboot. When Windows is loaded turn on the external drive and it should be detected properly again as a USB Mass storage device. After Windows redetects the drive it should hopefully reappear in the Drive Management list. If not you may need to use the external drive manufacturer's utility to partition the drive. "Richard Urban" wrote in message ... Every computer has it's own methodology to get into the bios. Turn off the computer. Turn it back on. Watch the screen carefully. You will see a message along the line of "press "whatever key" to enter the bios. Then look around the bios for a page that shows the drives connected to the computer. Exit the bios **WITHOUT** saving any changes you may have inadvertently made. -- Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience "Walter Goldschmidt" wrote in message ... I don't know how to check it in the bios. How about a helping hand here with a brief instruction on how to do that? -- Walt "Richard Urban" wrote in message ... Again, is it listed in the bios? If not the operating system can never see it either. -- Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience "Walter Goldschmidt" wrote in message ... In device manager under disk drives are 6 USB devices. 1. - ST3250310AS ATA device 2. - Teac USB HS-CF card USB device 3. - Teac USB HS-MS card USB device 4. - Teac USB HS-SD card USB device 5. - Teac USB HS-xD/SM card USB device 6. - WDC WDIO EAVS-00D7B1 It allowed me to delete the top and bottom one. The other 4 reinstalled as fast as I could uninstall them. After rebooting this did not help either. The external drive is not listed in computer or disk management. There has to be a way to get it back. -- Walt "Richard Urban" wrote in message ... You are saying that the drive itself is not visible in Vista's Disk Management utility? Go to device manager. Go to drives and uninstall/delete the drive. Shut down the computer. When you restart is the drive seen in device manager after a redetection? If not, see if the drive is seen in the computers bios. What is the drives designation? -- Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience "Walter Goldschmidt" wrote in message ... Rebooting didn't help. -- Walt "Richard Urban" wrote in message ... Reboot. See if it is now visible in Disk Management. -- Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience "Walter Goldschmidt" wrote in message ... I got a large external hard drive today and it's instructions say to go to disk management and do format and partition. I messed up and deleted the drives volume. Now it is not listed in disk management. I looked everywhere to get it back and can't figure it out. How do I make Vista recognize this drive again so I can partition and format it? -- Walt
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May 12th 09, 05:24 PM
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1 TB External Hard Drive Problem
Don't take me the wrong way Richard. Without people like you to help me with
my computer problems I wouldn't have had the opportunity to learn so much about computers in the last year. I consider myself way above average when it comes to computer knowledge. Disk management I learned about from you from a posting you made on 4/28/09. I'm still learning how to use it properly. I thought it would be listed in the top window. I wasn't even sure what the listings were in the bottom window. By messing around in disk management I was able to figure it out. Thanks for your input. -- Walt "Richard Urban" wrote in message ... You threw me through a loop by saying that the drive was not even seen by disk management. We/I can only work with what we/I are presented with. -- Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience "Walter Goldschmidt" wrote in message ... I figured it out. Under disk management at the top of window is listed drives C: & D: which are 2 partitions on my internal hard drive. Down below in window are listed disks 0 thru disk 6. Disk 0 is my internal hard drive. I then highlighted each disk and right clicked and then clicked on properties. I did this for each disk until I found my 1 TB external hard drive. I then put cursor in blank area to right of that disk and right clicked. It then allowed me to create a volume and format it. That fixed it. I knew there was a way. Thanks for every ones input sometimes you have to figure it out yourself. -- Walt "Richard Urban" wrote in message ... Maybe the drive has failed. It happens. -- Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience "Walter Goldschmidt" wrote in message ... Under universal serial bus controllers I found 2 USB mass storage devices and removed them. I then rebooted the computer and it replaced the drivers for those 2 devices. I then plugged in 1 TB drive and checked under computer and disk management and it did not appear. Nothing was listed under disk drives. There were no IEEE 1394 devices listed anywhere. I sent a email to the seller too see if he could give me some advice. Maybe I should contact the manufacturer. -- Walt "RalfG" wrote in message ... External drives don't typically show up in BIOS. I can't say if that's true for E-SATA but USB and firewire don't. Those don't show up anywhere until after Windows loads their device drivers. The external drive should have entries in Device Manager. As well as being listed under Disk drives it would also be listed under USB controllers as a USB Mass storage device, or under IEEE 1394 devices. Not sure where-all E-SATA drives show up. Some external USB harddrives are not detected properly if they are connected and running while the computer is booting up. In that case Windows installs a dummy unidentified device driver in its place. Cycling the power on the drive often does nothing to help Windows find it because the unidentified device driver is actually on the USB port that the harddrive is connected to. Moving the drive to a different USB port would be one workaround. First choice would be to uninstall the unidentified USB device, turn off the drive then reboot. When Windows is loaded turn on the external drive and it should be detected properly again as a USB Mass storage device. After Windows redetects the drive it should hopefully reappear in the Drive Management list. If not you may need to use the external drive manufacturer's utility to partition the drive. "Richard Urban" wrote in message ... Every computer has it's own methodology to get into the bios. Turn off the computer. Turn it back on. Watch the screen carefully. You will see a message along the line of "press "whatever key" to enter the bios. Then look around the bios for a page that shows the drives connected to the computer. Exit the bios **WITHOUT** saving any changes you may have inadvertently made. -- Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience "Walter Goldschmidt" wrote in message ... I don't know how to check it in the bios. How about a helping hand here with a brief instruction on how to do that? -- Walt "Richard Urban" wrote in message ... Again, is it listed in the bios? If not the operating system can never see it either. -- Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience "Walter Goldschmidt" wrote in message ... In device manager under disk drives are 6 USB devices. 1. - ST3250310AS ATA device 2. - Teac USB HS-CF card USB device 3. - Teac USB HS-MS card USB device 4. - Teac USB HS-SD card USB device 5. - Teac USB HS-xD/SM card USB device 6. - WDC WDIO EAVS-00D7B1 It allowed me to delete the top and bottom one. The other 4 reinstalled as fast as I could uninstall them. After rebooting this did not help either. The external drive is not listed in computer or disk management. There has to be a way to get it back. -- Walt "Richard Urban" wrote in message ... You are saying that the drive itself is not visible in Vista's Disk Management utility? Go to device manager. Go to drives and uninstall/delete the drive. Shut down the computer. When you restart is the drive seen in device manager after a redetection? If not, see if the drive is seen in the computers bios. What is the drives designation? -- Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience "Walter Goldschmidt" wrote in message ... Rebooting didn't help. -- Walt "Richard Urban" wrote in message ... Reboot. See if it is now visible in Disk Management. -- Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience "Walter Goldschmidt" wrote in message ... I got a large external hard drive today and it's instructions say to go to disk management and do format and partition. I messed up and deleted the drives volume. Now it is not listed in disk management. I looked everywhere to get it back and can't figure it out. How do I make Vista recognize this drive again so I can partition and format it? -- Walt
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May 12th 09, 06:44 PM
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1 TB External Hard Drive Problem
Richard was referring to your post of the 9th which said
" The external drive is not listed in computer or in disk management. " "Walter Goldschmidt" wrote in message ... Don't take me the wrong way Richard. Without people like you to help me with my computer problems I wouldn't have had the opportunity to learn so much about computers in the last year. I consider myself way above average when it comes to computer knowledge. Disk management I learned about from you from a posting you made on 4/28/09. I'm still learning how to use it properly. I thought it would be listed in the top window. I wasn't even sure what the listings were in the bottom window. By messing around in disk management I was able to figure it out. Thanks for your input. -- Walt "Richard Urban" wrote in message ... You threw me through a loop by saying that the drive was not even seen by disk management. We/I can only work with what we/I are presented with. -- Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience "Walter Goldschmidt" wrote in message ... I figured it out. Under disk management at the top of window is listed drives C: & D: which are 2 partitions on my internal hard drive. Down below in window are listed disks 0 thru disk 6. Disk 0 is my internal hard drive. I then highlighted each disk and right clicked and then clicked on properties. I did this for each disk until I found my 1 TB external hard drive. I then put cursor in blank area to right of that disk and right clicked. It then allowed me to create a volume and format it. That fixed it. I knew there was a way. Thanks for every ones input sometimes you have to figure it out yourself. -- Walt "Richard Urban" wrote in message ... Maybe the drive has failed. It happens. -- Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience "Walter Goldschmidt" wrote in message ... Under universal serial bus controllers I found 2 USB mass storage devices and removed them. I then rebooted the computer and it replaced the drivers for those 2 devices. I then plugged in 1 TB drive and checked under computer and disk management and it did not appear. Nothing was listed under disk drives. There were no IEEE 1394 devices listed anywhere. I sent a email to the seller too see if he could give me some advice. Maybe I should contact the manufacturer. -- Walt "RalfG" wrote in message ... External drives don't typically show up in BIOS. I can't say if that's true for E-SATA but USB and firewire don't. Those don't show up anywhere until after Windows loads their device drivers. The external drive should have entries in Device Manager. As well as being listed under Disk drives it would also be listed under USB controllers as a USB Mass storage device, or under IEEE 1394 devices. Not sure where-all E-SATA drives show up. Some external USB harddrives are not detected properly if they are connected and running while the computer is booting up. In that case Windows installs a dummy unidentified device driver in its place. Cycling the power on the drive often does nothing to help Windows find it because the unidentified device driver is actually on the USB port that the harddrive is connected to. Moving the drive to a different USB port would be one workaround. First choice would be to uninstall the unidentified USB device, turn off the drive then reboot. When Windows is loaded turn on the external drive and it should be detected properly again as a USB Mass storage device. After Windows redetects the drive it should hopefully reappear in the Drive Management list. If not you may need to use the external drive manufacturer's utility to partition the drive. "Richard Urban" wrote in message ... Every computer has it's own methodology to get into the bios. Turn off the computer. Turn it back on. Watch the screen carefully. You will see a message along the line of "press "whatever key" to enter the bios. Then look around the bios for a page that shows the drives connected to the computer. Exit the bios **WITHOUT** saving any changes you may have inadvertently made. -- Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience "Walter Goldschmidt" wrote in message ... I don't know how to check it in the bios. How about a helping hand here with a brief instruction on how to do that? -- Walt "Richard Urban" wrote in message ... Again, is it listed in the bios? If not the operating system can never see it either. -- Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience "Walter Goldschmidt" wrote in message ... In device manager under disk drives are 6 USB devices. 1. - ST3250310AS ATA device 2. - Teac USB HS-CF card USB device 3. - Teac USB HS-MS card USB device 4. - Teac USB HS-SD card USB device 5. - Teac USB HS-xD/SM card USB device 6. - WDC WDIO EAVS-00D7B1 It allowed me to delete the top and bottom one. The other 4 reinstalled as fast as I could uninstall them. After rebooting this did not help either. The external drive is not listed in computer or disk management. There has to be a way to get it back. -- Walt "Richard Urban" wrote in message ... You are saying that the drive itself is not visible in Vista's Disk Management utility? Go to device manager. Go to drives and uninstall/delete the drive. Shut down the computer. When you restart is the drive seen in device manager after a redetection? If not, see if the drive is seen in the computers bios. What is the drives designation? -- Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience "Walter Goldschmidt" wrote in message ... Rebooting didn't help. -- Walt "Richard Urban" wrote in message ... Reboot. See if it is now visible in Disk Management. -- Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience "Walter Goldschmidt" wrote in message ... I got a large external hard drive today and it's instructions say to go to disk management and do format and partition. I messed up and deleted the drives volume. Now it is not listed in disk management. I looked everywhere to get it back and can't figure it out. How do I make Vista recognize this drive again so I can partition and format it? -- Walt
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