I've googled this and seen a lot of articles about knoppix with a bunch of
alien commands (I'm a DOS - Vista user only)
Where do you get it from, and does it comes with any help on how to use it?
I'm guessing I will create a boot CD and have knoppix running in RAM like
the old MS-DOS boot disk???
Then what?


"Harry" wrote in message
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On May 27, 9:31 am, "M Skabialka" wrote:

Is there a utility out there to replace ntfs.sys without booting to ntfs?
The ntfs reader will only copy from NTFS to a FAT partition, so I can't
copy
from one ntfs drive to the other in a 2 drive system.
Mich

google "enable ntfs write" ....
will give you knoppix.
u need to try it yourself.

M Skabialka wrote:
I have tried booting from the drive, booting a machine with this drive as
the slave, and booting a machine and then connecting this through USB. In
all cases the computer crashes.
F8 booting in safe mode crashes.
Booting from the OS CD and choosing repair crashes.

Just to be clear on one point.........did you jumper the problem drive
as "slave" and make sure that the **IDE** boot hard drive was jumpered
as master? Just hooking them up to the same IDE cable doesn't
automatically make one "master" and the other "slave; the jumpers have
to be in the correct position.

A couple of other things you can try too:

If your BIOS supports it....remove the problem drive's name from the
list of "bootable" devices.

Use a partition editor (such as PartEd) to remove the bootable flag on
the problem hard drive.

Is there a utility out there to replace ntfs.sys without booting to ntfs?
The ntfs reader will only copy from NTFS to a FAT partition, so I can't
copy from one ntfs drive to the other in a 2 drive system.


Hiren's BootCD
http://www.hiren.info/pages/bootcd


SystemRescueCD:
http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page

***Note: SystemRescueCD is Linux based.

I ran the long diagnostics - says the drive is OK.
I looked at http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ - it doesn't list any utilities
for repairing the ntfs.sys file - the NTFS reader wasn't any help - I tried
that already.
Salvation seems to be for DOS, therefore FAT systems.

http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
I'm guessing I will create a boot CD and have Linux in RAM like
the old MS-DOS boot disk???
Then what?


"Markmckee601" wrote in message
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Harry wrote:

I can only assume that you have ran only the short/quick test using the
diagnostics from the manufacturer as most of them require write access
to the drive.

In my experience if i have any problems like you have mentioned i would
either boot to a live cd of linux or boot to UBCD (Ultimate Boot CD).
This rules out an OS issue and you can also check the hard drive and the
ntfs filesystem.

To check the hard drive using UBCD there is a nice utility called
Salvation but there are others as well.

Here's a link
http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/download.html

If you can't access the NTFS partition using Windows i would try a live
cd version of linux or you can install linux on a usb pendrive, i have
found that it can mount pretty much anything you throw at it including
NTFS partitions.

http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/

Hope this helps.

Comptia A+ Certified

I not only removed the AGP video card - I took it back to the store and got
my money back. I tried with the other AGP card, and the onboard video. The
drive still crashes this or any other machine.
I cannot get to a prompt to run chkdsk by any method I can think of.

"Curious" wrote in message
...
If you remove the all of the "added hardware" you referred to can you get
back to booting your system with just it's original drive? If yes you
might try running checkdisk on the working system

"M Skabialka" wrote in message
...
I have tried booting from the drive, booting a machine with this drive as
the slave, and booting a machine and then connecting this through USB.
In all cases the computer crashes.
F8 booting in safe mode crashes.
Booting from the OS CD and choosing repair crashes.

"propman" wrote in message
...

Just to be clear on one point.........did you jumper the problem drive as
"slave" and make sure that the **IDE** boot hard drive was jumpered as
master? Just hooking them up to the same IDE cable doesn't automatically
make one "master" and the other "slave; the jumpers have to be in the
correct position.

I tried both cable select and jumpering master and slave. Tried them on
different IDE cables, as primary master and secondary master.


A couple of other things you can try too:

If your BIOS supports it....remove the problem drive's name from the list
of "bootable" devices.

I'm not sure what you mean by this. If I have no HDD listed as a boot
device, what does this accomplish? Right now I have floppy, then CD-ROM,
then Hard Drive.


Hiren's BootCD
http://www.hiren.info/pages/bootcd

I'll look at this...

SystemRescueCD:
http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page

This site will not open

Go to My Computer/right click on the drive/ select properties/ the select
tools/ then select check disk

"M Skabialka" wrote in message
...
I not only removed the AGP video card - I took it back to the store and
got my money back. I tried with the other AGP card, and the onboard
video. The drive still crashes this or any other machine.
I cannot get to a prompt to run chkdsk by any method I can think of.

"Curious" wrote in message
...
If you remove the all of the "added hardware" you referred to can you get
back to booting your system with just it's original drive? If yes you
might try running checkdisk on the working system

"M Skabialka" wrote in message
...
I have tried booting from the drive, booting a machine with this drive
as the slave, and booting a machine and then connecting this through
USB. In all cases the computer crashes.
F8 booting in safe mode crashes.
Booting from the OS CD and choosing repair crashes.

I cannot get any computer to which this drive is attached to boot at all!
They always crash. Therefore I cannot run chkdsk! This is the reason for my
initial post!

"Curious" wrote in message
...
Go to My Computer/right click on the drive/ select properties/ the select
tools/ then select check disk

"M Skabialka" wrote in message
...
I not only removed the AGP video card - I took it back to the store and
got my money back. I tried with the other AGP card, and the onboard
video. The drive still crashes this or any other machine.
I cannot get to a prompt to run chkdsk by any method I can think of.

"Curious" wrote in message
...
If you remove the all of the "added hardware" you referred to can you
get back to booting your system with just it's original drive? If yes
you might try running checkdisk on the working system

"M Skabialka" wrote in message
...
I have tried booting from the drive, booting a machine with this drive
as the slave, and booting a machine and then connecting this through
USB. In all cases the computer crashes.
F8 booting in safe mode crashes.
Booting from the OS CD and choosing repair crashes.

M Skabialka wrote:
I ran the long diagnostics - says the drive is OK.
I looked at http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ - it doesn't list any utilities
for repairing the ntfs.sys file - the NTFS reader wasn't any help - I tried
that already.
Salvation seems to be for DOS, therefore FAT systems.

Might want to try this:

NTFS4DOS 1.9 (read/write NTFS from DOS)
http://www.free-av.com/en/tools/11/a..._personal.html

I've downloaded it and will be trying out later....please let us know of
your experiences with it. :-)



http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/

You might also want to take a look at the openSUSE LiveCD:
http://www.opensuse.org/en/

I'm guessing I will create a boot CD and have Linux in RAM like
the old MS-DOS boot disk???
Then what?


Suggest you jumper problem drive as slave; no other hard drives
installed in system (to keep things simple).

Use one of the LiveCD's to boot the system....then use the file manager
to see if the drive is recognized, plus can be read from and written to.

If these steps are sucessful then you are well on your way to recovering
your data. Please let us know how you make out. :-)

Do I understand correctly that you have a computer with only one hard drive
installed and it was working fine unstill you "added some other hardware" to
the system and that you have not been able to even to do a F8 safe mode boot
since even after you removed the "other hardware"?
However, you do get to the F8 screen and then even safe mode fail.
What was the "other hardware" you installed and now have removed?

"M Skabialka" wrote in message
...
I cannot get any computer to which this drive is attached to boot at all!
They always crash. Therefore I cannot run chkdsk! This is the reason for
my initial post!

"Curious" wrote in message
...
Go to My Computer/right click on the drive/ select properties/ the select
tools/ then select check disk

"M Skabialka" wrote in message
...
I not only removed the AGP video card - I took it back to the store and
got my money back. I tried with the other AGP card, and the onboard
video. The drive still crashes this or any other machine.
I cannot get to a prompt to run chkdsk by any method I can think of.

"Curious" wrote in message
...
If you remove the all of the "added hardware" you referred to can you
get back to booting your system with just it's original drive? If yes
you might try running checkdisk on the working system

"M Skabialka" wrote in message
...
I have tried booting from the drive, booting a machine with this drive
as the slave, and booting a machine and then connecting this through
USB. In all cases the computer crashes.
F8 booting in safe mode crashes.
Booting from the OS CD and choosing repair crashes.

He's already posted all this information in previous messages...if you
really want to help the OP, suggest you read all back messages to
catch-up on topic. :-)


Curious wrote:
Do I understand correctly that you have a computer with only one hard
drive installed and it was working fine unstill you "added some other
hardware" to the system and that you have not been able to even to do a
F8 safe mode boot since even after you removed the "other hardware"?
However, you do get to the F8 screen and then even safe mode fail.
What was the "other hardware" you installed and now have removed?

"M Skabialka" wrote in message
...
I cannot get any computer to which this drive is attached to boot at
all! They always crash. Therefore I cannot run chkdsk! This is the
reason for my initial post!

"Curious" wrote in message
...
Go to My Computer/right click on the drive/ select properties/ the
select tools/ then select check disk

"M Skabialka" wrote in message
...
I not only removed the AGP video card - I took it back to the store
and got my money back. I tried with the other AGP card, and the
onboard video. The drive still crashes this or any other machine.
I cannot get to a prompt to run chkdsk by any method I can think of.

"Curious" wrote in message
...
If you remove the all of the "added hardware" you referred to can
you get back to booting your system with just it's original drive?
If yes you might try running checkdisk on the working system

"M Skabialka" wrote in message
...
I have tried booting from the drive, booting a machine with this
drive as the slave, and booting a machine and then connecting this
through USB. In all cases the computer crashes.
F8 booting in safe mode crashes.
Booting from the OS CD and choosing repair crashes.