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Hard-drive corruption question
propman wrote:
M Skabialka wrote: I ran the long diagnostics - says the drive is OK. I looked at http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ - it doesn't list any utilities for repairing the ntfs.sys file - the NTFS reader wasn't any help - I tried that already. Salvation seems to be for DOS, therefore FAT systems. Might want to try this: NTFS4DOS 1.9 (read/write NTFS from DOS) http://www.free-av.com/en/tools/11/a..._personal.html I've downloaded it and will be trying out later....please let us know of your experiences with it. :-) Update: Tried NTFS4DOS on 80 Gig Vista Home Basic......the program recognizes the hard drive, plus the main partition and the "hidden" recovery partition (both NTFS). Unfortunately, when trying a "dir" on the main partition, a "stack overflow" is generated requiring a hard reboot. This problem "maybe" could be fixed by editing the config.sys and/or autoexec.bat but I don't have the inclination to do so right now. |
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Hard-drive corruption question
M Skabialka wrote:
"propman" wrote in message ... Just to be clear on one point.........did you jumper the problem drive as "slave" and make sure that the **IDE** boot hard drive was jumpered as master? Just hooking them up to the same IDE cable doesn't automatically make one "master" and the other "slave; the jumpers have to be in the correct position. I tried both cable select and jumpering master and slave. Tried them on different IDE cables, as primary master and secondary master. A couple of other things you can try too: If your BIOS supports it....remove the problem drive's name from the list of "bootable" devices. I'm not sure what you mean by this. If I have no HDD listed as a boot device, what does this accomplish? Right now I have floppy, then CD-ROM, then Hard Drive. Stops the defective hard drive from booting and crashing the system maybe? :-) You have to use the floppy and/or cd-rom, or USB memory stick or whatever to boot and run your diagnostics. SystemRescueCD: http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page This site will not open Works here...... :-) |
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Hard-drive corruption question
I read the manual online, and will try this and post back my results.
Thanks for the info on this software Mich "propman" wrote in message ... propman wrote: M Skabialka wrote: I ran the long diagnostics - says the drive is OK. I looked at http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ - it doesn't list any utilities for repairing the ntfs.sys file - the NTFS reader wasn't any help - I tried that already. Salvation seems to be for DOS, therefore FAT systems. Might want to try this: NTFS4DOS 1.9 (read/write NTFS from DOS) http://www.free-av.com/en/tools/11/a..._personal.html I've downloaded it and will be trying out later....please let us know of your experiences with it. :-) Update: Tried NTFS4DOS on 80 Gig Vista Home Basic......the program recognizes the hard drive, plus the main partition and the "hidden" recovery partition (both NTFS). Unfortunately, when trying a "dir" on the main partition, a "stack overflow" is generated requiring a hard reboot. This problem "maybe" could be fixed by editing the config.sys and/or autoexec.bat but I don't have the inclination to do so right now. |
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Hard-drive corruption question
M Skabialka wrote:
"propman" wrote in message If your BIOS supports it....remove the problem drive's name from the list of "bootable" devices. I'm not sure what you mean by this. If I have no HDD listed as a boot device, what does this accomplish? Right now I have floppy, then CD-ROM, then Hard Drive. Sent the other reply and then realize I didn't expand on this topic sufficiently....sorry about that. :-) What I am referring to is a system that has more than one hard drive installed AND more than one hard drive is bootable; therefore, upon booting up the system, a choice of which hard drive to boot (via the BIOS) is available (basically a form of a boot manager). Some systems BIOS's allow the addition/subtraction of boot-devices (in this case hard drives)into lists of "use this device as a boot device" or "don't use this device as a boot device" which is a bit more flexible than just the more common sequential "floppy, then CD-ROM, then Hard Drive" sequence. :-) |
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Hard-drive corruption question
I did reread all of the Op's previous posts, as you implied I had not,
before I made my last post and I was confused by some of the content which is why I asked the OP to clarify what I thought was a detailed description of the events that have occurred. I suggest that if you have any meaningful suggestions to help the OP that you suggest them instead of criticizing those of us who are trying to help but are not sure of the details. "propman" wrote in message ... He's already posted all this information in previous messages...if you really want to help the OP, suggest you read all back messages to catch-up on topic. :-) Curious wrote: Do I understand correctly that you have a computer with only one hard drive installed and it was working fine unstill you "added some other hardware" to the system and that you have not been able to even to do a F8 safe mode boot since even after you removed the "other hardware"? However, you do get to the F8 screen and then even safe mode fail. What was the "other hardware" you installed and now have removed? "M Skabialka" wrote in message ... I cannot get any computer to which this drive is attached to boot at all! They always crash. Therefore I cannot run chkdsk! This is the reason for my initial post! "Curious" wrote in message ... Go to My Computer/right click on the drive/ select properties/ the select tools/ then select check disk "M Skabialka" wrote in message ... I not only removed the AGP video card - I took it back to the store and got my money back. I tried with the other AGP card, and the onboard video. The drive still crashes this or any other machine. I cannot get to a prompt to run chkdsk by any method I can think of. "Curious" wrote in message ... If you remove the all of the "added hardware" you referred to can you get back to booting your system with just it's original drive? If yes you might try running checkdisk on the working system "M Skabialka" wrote in message ... I have tried booting from the drive, booting a machine with this drive as the slave, and booting a machine and then connecting this through USB. In all cases the computer crashes. F8 booting in safe mode crashes. Booting from the OS CD and choosing repair crashes. |
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Hard-drive corruption question
Propman,
I have now read some of your other posts and realize that you like me are trying to understand exactly what steps the OP has taken to resolve the problem and to offer suggestions on how to. "Curious" wrote in message ... I did reread all of the Op's previous posts, as you implied I had not, before I made my last post and I was confused by some of the content which is why I asked the OP to clarify what I thought was a detailed description of the events that have occurred. I suggest that if you have any meaningful suggestions to help the OP that you suggest them instead of criticizing those of us who are trying to help but are not sure of the details. "propman" wrote in message ... He's already posted all this information in previous messages...if you really want to help the OP, suggest you read all back messages to catch-up on topic. :-) Curious wrote: Do I understand correctly that you have a computer with only one hard drive installed and it was working fine unstill you "added some other hardware" to the system and that you have not been able to even to do a F8 safe mode boot since even after you removed the "other hardware"? However, you do get to the F8 screen and then even safe mode fail. What was the "other hardware" you installed and now have removed? "M Skabialka" wrote in message ... I cannot get any computer to which this drive is attached to boot at all! They always crash. Therefore I cannot run chkdsk! This is the reason for my initial post! "Curious" wrote in message ... Go to My Computer/right click on the drive/ select properties/ the select tools/ then select check disk "M Skabialka" wrote in message ... I not only removed the AGP video card - I took it back to the store and got my money back. I tried with the other AGP card, and the onboard video. The drive still crashes this or any other machine. I cannot get to a prompt to run chkdsk by any method I can think of. "Curious" wrote in message ... If you remove the all of the "added hardware" you referred to can you get back to booting your system with just it's original drive? If yes you might try running checkdisk on the working system "M Skabialka" wrote in message ... I have tried booting from the drive, booting a machine with this drive as the slave, and booting a machine and then connecting this through USB. In all cases the computer crashes. F8 booting in safe mode crashes. Booting from the OS CD and choosing repair crashes. |
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Hard-drive corruption question
I gave up. The OP got me so confused!
-- Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Curious wrote: Propman, I have now read some of your other posts and realize that you like me are trying to understand exactly what steps the OP has taken to resolve the problem and to offer suggestions on how to. "Curious" wrote in message ... I did reread all of the Op's previous posts, as you implied I had not, before I made my last post and I was confused by some of the content which is why I asked the OP to clarify what I thought was a detailed description of the events that have occurred. I suggest that if you have any meaningful suggestions to help the OP that you suggest them instead of criticizing those of us who are trying to help but are not sure of the details. "propman" wrote in message ... He's already posted all this information in previous messages...if you really want to help the OP, suggest you read all back messages to catch-up on topic. :-) Curious wrote: Do I understand correctly that you have a computer with only one hard drive installed and it was working fine unstill you "added some other hardware" to the system and that you have not been able to even to do a F8 safe mode boot since even after you removed the "other hardware"? However, you do get to the F8 screen and then even safe mode fail. What was the "other hardware" you installed and now have removed? "M Skabialka" wrote in message ... I cannot get any computer to which this drive is attached to boot at all! They always crash. Therefore I cannot run chkdsk! This is the reason for my initial post! "Curious" wrote in message ... Go to My Computer/right click on the drive/ select properties/ the select tools/ then select check disk "M Skabialka" wrote in message ... I not only removed the AGP video card - I took it back to the store and got my money back. I tried with the other AGP card, and the onboard video. The drive still crashes this or any other machine. I cannot get to a prompt to run chkdsk by any method I can think of. "Curious" wrote in message ... If you remove the all of the "added hardware" you referred to can you get back to booting your system with just it's original drive? If yes you might try running checkdisk on the working system "M Skabialka" wrote in message ... I have tried booting from the drive, booting a machine with this drive as the slave, and booting a machine and then connecting this through USB. In all cases the computer crashes. F8 booting in safe mode crashes. Booting from the OS CD and choosing repair crashes. |
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Hard-drive corruption question
M Skabialka wrote:
I ran the long diagnostics - says the drive is OK. I looked at http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ - it doesn't list any utilities for repairing the ntfs.sys file - the NTFS reader wasn't any help - I tried that already. Salvation seems to be for DOS, therefore FAT systems. The following is the UBCD version you should try (not the one you have listed above): http://ubcd4win.com/ quote on UBCD4Win includes network support and allows you the ability to modify NTFS volumes, recover deleted files, create new NTFS volumes, scan hard drives for viruses, etc. Our download includes almost everything you need to repair your system problems. This project has been put together to be the ultimate recovery cd and not a replacement OS (Operating System). Please visit the "List of Tools" page for a complete list of what is included in the latest version of UBCD4Win. quote off |
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Hard-drive corruption question
I tried this software with suspect drive in the machine and no other drives.
It recognized that there is a drive in there, tells me the size, says it is a Windows NTFS disk, but uses a question mark for the drive letter, so that when I tell it to checkdisk that drive it won't accept ? as a valid selection, or any other letter of the alphabet. So close - yet so far.... "M Skabialka" wrote in message ... I read the manual online, and will try this and post back my results. Thanks for the info on this software Mich "propman" wrote in message ... propman wrote: M Skabialka wrote: I ran the long diagnostics - says the drive is OK. I looked at http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ - it doesn't list any utilities for repairing the ntfs.sys file - the NTFS reader wasn't any help - I tried that already. Salvation seems to be for DOS, therefore FAT systems. Might want to try this: NTFS4DOS 1.9 (read/write NTFS from DOS) http://www.free-av.com/en/tools/11/a..._personal.html I've downloaded it and will be trying out later....please let us know of your experiences with it. :-) Update: Tried NTFS4DOS on 80 Gig Vista Home Basic......the program recognizes the hard drive, plus the main partition and the "hidden" recovery partition (both NTFS). Unfortunately, when trying a "dir" on the main partition, a "stack overflow" is generated requiring a hard reboot. This problem "maybe" could be fixed by editing the config.sys and/or autoexec.bat but I don't have the inclination to do so right now. |
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Hard-drive corruption question
M Skabialka
Have you tried inserting the problem drive in a computer as a second or slave drive. -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ .. M Skabialka wrote: I tried this software with suspect drive in the machine and no other drives. It recognized that there is a drive in there, tells me the size, says it is a Windows NTFS disk, but uses a question mark for the drive letter, so that when I tell it to checkdisk that drive it won't accept ? as a valid selection, or any other letter of the alphabet. So close - yet so far.... "M Skabialka" wrote in message ... I read the manual online, and will try this and post back my results. Thanks for the info on this software Mich "propman" wrote in message ... propman wrote: M Skabialka wrote: I ran the long diagnostics - says the drive is OK. I looked at http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ - it doesn't list any utilities for repairing the ntfs.sys file - the NTFS reader wasn't any help - I tried that already. Salvation seems to be for DOS, therefore FAT systems. Might want to try this: NTFS4DOS 1.9 (read/write NTFS from DOS) http://www.free-av.com/en/tools/11/a..._personal.html I've downloaded it and will be trying out later....please let us know of your experiences with it. :-) Update: Tried NTFS4DOS on 80 Gig Vista Home Basic......the program recognizes the hard drive, plus the main partition and the "hidden" recovery partition (both NTFS). Unfortunately, when trying a "dir" on the main partition, a "stack overflow" is generated requiring a hard reboot. This problem "maybe" could be fixed by editing the config.sys and/or autoexec.bat but I don't have the inclination to do so right now. |