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How to increase system system performance
On Jun 10, 2:17*pm, "Tae Song" wrote:
"measekite Da Monkey" wrote in m... Good question... so I pulled out the flash drive. I started up Outlook (which today's service pack for Office XP fixed. *In Office XP, Outlook does not work if you don't already have Outlook Express installed. *It hadn't worked till early today after the latest update. *I never installed Outlook Express on this Vista system.) *I gave me an error message it couldn't create Normal.dot or something. *I didn't make a note of it, sorry. *It didn't display normally. *Address bar/field displays outlook:today, but in the main window it's says Navigation to the webpage was canceled. *Under that, it says What you can try: *bullet Retype the address. I Open up Word everything seems to be working OK. *Few minutes later message says, "Saving the AutoRecovery file is postponed for Normal.dot." I opened Access, Power Point, Excel, GIMP (which took much longer than normal to open). *Some minor problems, but nothing catastrophic. Then I tried replying to this post... it didn't quote your message. Putting in the flash drive back now. You will have problems in the long run. My suggestion is to wipe your system clean. Remove Vista and install Ubuntu. |
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How to increase system system performance
"Jerry" wrote in message ... Why not just create and RAMDRIVE and use it for the TMP/TEMP variables? "Tae Song" wrote in message ... I thought I would share this with you all, a few little tricks to boost Windows performance. If you have a spare USB flash drive or you are willing to get a cheap say 1GB flash drive. First we plug in the flash drive. Go to Disk Manager and assign it a drive letter, like Z: (this is just to get it out of the way and optional) Go to Advanced system settings, Evironment variables. Change the Temp variable under User to Z:\ (I didn't see any point creating folders, but that's optional) Change the Temp variable under System variable to Z:\ This will cut down on I/O traffic to the hard drive. Starting an app like Word, would cause the HD to read the program into memory while at the same time writing into the drive, temporary files. This causes an I/O queue to form and degrade Windows performance. By off loading some of the I/O traffic to another storage device, the hard drive read/write head doesn't have to move around as much either. All performance gains. Another trick I tried was moving Windows Search Index to a flash drive, but it won't let me select even a 16GB flash drive. Even though the Index doesn't grow beyond 1GB. It's max size seems to be just under 1GB. You can move to it to a removable drive, though. I rebuilt the Index on an external 500GB USB drive. Again, this cuts down I/O traffic to the internal hard drive. More performance gain. Another idea I tried was creating a pagefile on a 16GB USB flash drive. I found out you can only have 4095MB pagefile or just under 25% of total capacity. I don't know what the rule of thumb is though, because on the internal 1TB hard drive I could create up to the max free space, which was about 700,000GB. Not that I needed that much, but just to test. I'm actually running with 4GB RAM and no page file, at the moment. Even with lots of 100MB picture (scanned documents/photos) open, virtual memory wasn't required. I would like to use most of an 8GB flash drive. Possibly use it for both temp files and virtual memory. I don't know if pagefile is the same thing as running ReadyBoost. I don't think it is, but I will have to look into that. I am not using Readyboost, since I read it doesn't do much good if you have more than 2GB of RAM. Now, if you have a 2nd or 3rd internal hard drive, you can create a pagefile on the 2nd drive and search index on the 3rd or index on 2nd and page file on 3rd. I highly recommended using a USB drive for temp files. 1-2GB are pretty cheap. I don't think you need a larger one unless you are working with full length movies, but I don't for certain. They do something like this on big database servers, some might refer to as "mainframes". The index and database are each on their own storage device. The aggregated bandwidth offers even better performance then RAID and the best part is you can implement it along side with RAID for insane amount of storage I/O performance. Anyways, that's it. If you need more detailed info on setting this up, leave a little note in the newsgroup. If I don't get to it, I'm sure someone else will help you out. That would work. But how much memory are you going to allocate to RAM drive? 1GB flash are practically free these days. They were giving them out for free at a community college if you signed up for a computer class. Well... technically that's not free... but... they gave you one 1GB flash drive if you signed up for a class, that's more accurate. |
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How to increase system system performance
"Tae Song" wrote in message ... "Tae Song" wrote in message news "measekite Da Monkey" wrote in message ... Good question... so I pulled out the flash drive. I started up Outlook (which today's service pack for Office XP fixed. In Office XP, Outlook does not work if you don't already have Outlook Express installed. It hadn't worked till early today after the latest update. I never installed Outlook Express on this Vista system.) I gave me an error message it couldn't create Normal.dot or something. I didn't make a note of it, sorry. It didn't display normally. Address bar/field displays outlook:today, but in the main window it's says Navigation to the webpage was canceled. Under that, it says What you can try: bullet Retype the address. I Open up Word everything seems to be working OK. Few minutes later message says, "Saving the AutoRecovery file is postponed for Normal.dot." I opened Access, Power Point, Excel, GIMP (which took much longer than normal to open). Some minor problems, but nothing catastrophic. Then I tried replying to this post... it didn't quote your message. Putting in the flash drive back now. OK, I plugged the flash drive in Process Monitor pops up with an error message... Out of memory: Unable to allocate a memory block of size 8388608. Clicked OK, it closes. ClipMagic says The file :C\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\ClipMagic\clipmagic. qdb is corrupt. Disable automatic backups and restore. Clicked OK, it's still running. Some minor problems, but nothing major. You really are stupid. |
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How to increase system system performance
wrote in message ... On Jun 10, 2:17 pm, "Tae Song" wrote: "measekite Da Monkey" wrote in ... Good question... so I pulled out the flash drive. I started up Outlook (which today's service pack for Office XP fixed. In Office XP, Outlook does not work if you don't already have Outlook Express installed. It hadn't worked till early today after the latest update. I never installed Outlook Express on this Vista system.) I gave me an error message it couldn't create Normal.dot or something. I didn't make a note of it, sorry. It didn't display normally. Address bar/field displays outlook:today, but in the main window it's says Navigation to the webpage was canceled. Under that, it says What you can try: bullet Retype the address. I Open up Word everything seems to be working OK. Few minutes later message says, "Saving the AutoRecovery file is postponed for Normal.dot." I opened Access, Power Point, Excel, GIMP (which took much longer than normal to open). Some minor problems, but nothing catastrophic. Then I tried replying to this post... it didn't quote your message. Putting in the flash drive back now. You will have problems in the long run. My suggestion is to wipe your system clean. Remove Vista and install Ubuntu. I have Fedora 9 on another machine, does that count? |
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How to increase system system performance
"Tae Song" wrote in message ... "Pegasus [MVP]" wrote in message ... "Tae Song" wrote in message ... I thought I would share this with you all, a few little tricks to boost Windows performance. Seeing that flash drives are much slower than hard disks, I wonder if your measures have the desired effect. Could we have some performance figures, complete with the test methods you applied so that anyone can perform the same tests on his machine? You have to take in to account access hard drives are mechanical and have access time of ms, where as flash drives have an access time down in to nanoseconds. I recommend you do some reading about the difference between RAM and flash memory. It's huge! Did you actually bother to measure the change in performance or is this just an idea you have, not backed up by any reproducible measurements? |
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How to increase system system performance
Tae Song wrote:
"Pegasus [MVP]" wrote in message ... "Tae Song" wrote in message ... I thought I would share this with you all, a few little tricks to boost Windows performance. Seeing that flash drives are much slower than hard disks, I wonder if your measures have the desired effect. Could we have some performance figures, complete with the test methods you applied so that anyone can perform the same tests on his machine? You have to take in to account access hard drives are mechanical and have access time of ms, where as flash drives have an access time down in to nanoseconds. The write time is much larger for a flash drive. |
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How to increase system system performance
Pegasus [MVP] wrote:
"Tae Song" wrote in message ... "Pegasus [MVP]" wrote in message ... "Tae Song" wrote in message ... I thought I would share this with you all, a few little tricks to boost Windows performance. Seeing that flash drives are much slower than hard disks, I wonder if your measures have the desired effect. Could we have some performance figures, complete with the test methods you applied so that anyone can perform the same tests on his machine? You have to take in to account access hard drives are mechanical and have access time of ms, where as flash drives have an access time down in to nanoseconds. I recommend you do some reading about the difference between RAM and flash memory. It's huge! Seconded. Did you actually bother to measure the change in performance or is this just an idea you have, not backed up by any reproducible measurements? the latter - obviously. The bottom line here is that it was, and is, very bad advice. |
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How to increase system system performance
"Tae Song" wrote in message ... "Pegasus [MVP]" wrote in message ... "Tae Song" wrote in message ... I thought I would share this with you all, a few little tricks to boost Windows performance. Seeing that flash drives are much slower than hard disks, I wonder if your measures have the desired effect. Could we have some performance figures, complete with the test methods you applied so that anyone can perform the same tests on his machine? You have to take in to account access hard drives are mechanical and have access time of ms, where as flash drives have an access time down in to nanoseconds. Try this short paragraph for a starter: "Modern flash drives have USB 2.0 connectivity. However, they do not currently use the full 480 Mbit/s (60MB/s) the USB 2.0 Hi-Speed specification supports due to technical limitations inherent in NAND flash. The fastest drives currently available use a dual channel controller, although they still fall considerably short of the transfer rate possible from a current generation hard disk, or the maximum high speed USB throughput." Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_flash_drive Or this: "A typical "desktop HDD" might store between 120 GB and 2 TB although rarely above 500GB of data (based on US market data[14]) rotate at 5,400 to 10,000 rpm and have a media transfer rate of 1 Gbit/s or higher. Some newer have 3Gbit/s." Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_disk Now go and do some actual measurements before claiming that your idea will "increase" performance. It won't. |
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How to increase system system performance
Outlook does not work if you don't already have Outlook Express installed.
Huh ??? What are you saying. For sure as I am typing this answer Outlook works without having to have Outlook Express. Get your answers straight Tae Song -- Peter Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged. |
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How to increase system system performance
Your snake oil remedies, and advice (except when you state the same thing
that others had stated hours before) leave a lot to be desired. Bad advice is worse than no advice. Read and learn (in other words - lurk). -- Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience "Tae Song" wrote in message news "measekite Da Monkey" wrote in message ... Good question... so I pulled out the flash drive. I started up Outlook (which today's service pack for Office XP fixed. In Office XP, Outlook does not work if you don't already have Outlook Express installed. It hadn't worked till early today after the latest update. I never installed Outlook Express on this Vista system.) I gave me an error message it couldn't create Normal.dot or something. I didn't make a note of it, sorry. It didn't display normally. Address bar/field displays outlook:today, but in the main window it's says Navigation to the webpage was canceled. Under that, it says What you can try: bullet Retype the address. I Open up Word everything seems to be working OK. Few minutes later message says, "Saving the AutoRecovery file is postponed for Normal.dot." I opened Access, Power Point, Excel, GIMP (which took much longer than normal to open). Some minor problems, but nothing catastrophic. Then I tried replying to this post... it didn't quote your message. Putting in the flash drive back now. |
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