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I have a home network linked by a Linksys router. There are three Windows
2000 machines and one Vista Home Premium all using static IPs of 10.0.0.x with hard wired cat 5 cabling. No DHCP, all the same workgroup. I just bought a new Vista Ultimate machine and it can see the other machines, but when I try to connect, only one of the Win2K machines gives a password login. Another won't even ping. The Vista Home machine gives an error saying not accessible, but it does ping. The administrator accounts on both Vista machines is the same login. The Vista home machine can see and connect to everything, including the new Vista Ultimate machine. I tried turning off the Windows firewall on both Vista machines, but no good. Please help. |
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Theryn wrote:
I have a home network linked by a Linksys router. There are three Windows 2000 machines and one Vista Home Premium all using static IPs of 10.0.0.x with hard wired cat 5 cabling. No DHCP, all the same workgroup. I just bought a new Vista Ultimate machine and it can see the other machines, but when I try to connect, only one of the Win2K machines gives a password login. Another won't even ping. The Vista Home machine gives an error saying not accessible, but it does ping. The administrator accounts on both Vista machines is the same login. The Vista home machine can see and connect to everything, including the new Vista Ultimate machine. I tried turning off the Windows firewall on both Vista machines, but no good. Please help. Here are general network troubleshooting steps. Not everything may be applicable to your situation, so just take the bits that are. It may look daunting, but if you follow the steps at the links and suggestions below systematically and calmly, you will have no difficulty in setting up your sharing. Excellent, thorough, yet easy to understand article about File/Printer Sharing in Vista. Includes details about sharing printers as well as files and folders: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally caused by 1) a misconfigured firewall or overlooked firewall (including a stateful firewall in a VPN); or 2) inadvertently running two firewalls such as the built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party firewall; and/or 3) not having identical user accounts and passwords on all Workgroup machines; 4) trying to create shares where the operating system does not permit it. A. Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network (LAN) traffic as trusted. If you aren't running a third-party firewall or have an antivirus/security program with its own firewall component, then you're fine. With third-party firewalls, I usually configure the LAN allowance with an IP range. Ex. would be 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would substitute your correct subnet. Refer to any third party security program's Help or user forums for how to properly configure its firewall. Do not run more than one firewall. DO NOT TURN OFF FIREWALLS; CONFIGURE THEM CORRECTLY. B. For ease of organization, put all computers in the same Workgroup. This is done from the System applet in Control Panel, Computer Name tab. C. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just need to exist and match on all machines. DO NOT NEGLECT TO CREATE PASSWORDS, EVEN IF ONLY SIMPLE ONES. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ |
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Thanks for the response. I've already seen this response several places and
gone thru the steps. I found nothing that worked, but I'll go thru it again this evening. "Malke" wrote: Theryn wrote: I have a home network linked by a Linksys router. There are three Windows 2000 machines and one Vista Home Premium all using static IPs of 10.0.0.x with hard wired cat 5 cabling. No DHCP, all the same workgroup. I just bought a new Vista Ultimate machine and it can see the other machines, but when I try to connect, only one of the Win2K machines gives a password login. Another won't even ping. The Vista Home machine gives an error saying not accessible, but it does ping. The administrator accounts on both Vista machines is the same login. The Vista home machine can see and connect to everything, including the new Vista Ultimate machine. I tried turning off the Windows firewall on both Vista machines, but no good. Please help. Here are general network troubleshooting steps. Not everything may be applicable to your situation, so just take the bits that are. It may look daunting, but if you follow the steps at the links and suggestions below systematically and calmly, you will have no difficulty in setting up your sharing. Excellent, thorough, yet easy to understand article about File/Printer Sharing in Vista. Includes details about sharing printers as well as files and folders: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally caused by 1) a misconfigured firewall or overlooked firewall (including a stateful firewall in a VPN); or 2) inadvertently running two firewalls such as the built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party firewall; and/or 3) not having identical user accounts and passwords on all Workgroup machines; 4) trying to create shares where the operating system does not permit it. A. Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network (LAN) traffic as trusted. If you aren't running a third-party firewall or have an antivirus/security program with its own firewall component, then you're fine. With third-party firewalls, I usually configure the LAN allowance with an IP range. Ex. would be 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would substitute your correct subnet. Refer to any third party security program's Help or user forums for how to properly configure its firewall. Do not run more than one firewall. DO NOT TURN OFF FIREWALLS; CONFIGURE THEM CORRECTLY. B. For ease of organization, put all computers in the same Workgroup. This is done from the System applet in Control Panel, Computer Name tab. C. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just need to exist and match on all machines. DO NOT NEGLECT TO CREATE PASSWORDS, EVEN IF ONLY SIMPLE ONES. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ |
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I found the problem. Even tho I'd named my user account the same on both
machines (tlogin), in the task manager on the Vista Home machine the user was called Owner, not the login name that displayed when you log in. I renamed that one, created a new administrator account with the preferred name (tlogin) and suddenly my new Ultimate machine would let me connect. Hopefully this will help others out there. "Theryn" wrote: Thanks for the response. I've already seen this response several places and gone thru the steps. I found nothing that worked, but I'll go thru it again this evening. "Malke" wrote: Theryn wrote: I have a home network linked by a Linksys router. There are three Windows 2000 machines and one Vista Home Premium all using static IPs of 10.0.0.x with hard wired cat 5 cabling. No DHCP, all the same workgroup. I just bought a new Vista Ultimate machine and it can see the other machines, but when I try to connect, only one of the Win2K machines gives a password login. Another won't even ping. The Vista Home machine gives an error saying not accessible, but it does ping. The administrator accounts on both Vista machines is the same login. The Vista home machine can see and connect to everything, including the new Vista Ultimate machine. I tried turning off the Windows firewall on both Vista machines, but no good. Please help. Here are general network troubleshooting steps. Not everything may be applicable to your situation, so just take the bits that are. It may look daunting, but if you follow the steps at the links and suggestions below systematically and calmly, you will have no difficulty in setting up your sharing. Excellent, thorough, yet easy to understand article about File/Printer Sharing in Vista. Includes details about sharing printers as well as files and folders: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally caused by 1) a misconfigured firewall or overlooked firewall (including a stateful firewall in a VPN); or 2) inadvertently running two firewalls such as the built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party firewall; and/or 3) not having identical user accounts and passwords on all Workgroup machines; 4) trying to create shares where the operating system does not permit it. A. Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network (LAN) traffic as trusted. If you aren't running a third-party firewall or have an antivirus/security program with its own firewall component, then you're fine. With third-party firewalls, I usually configure the LAN allowance with an IP range. Ex. would be 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would substitute your correct subnet. Refer to any third party security program's Help or user forums for how to properly configure its firewall. Do not run more than one firewall. DO NOT TURN OFF FIREWALLS; CONFIGURE THEM CORRECTLY. B. For ease of organization, put all computers in the same Workgroup. This is done from the System applet in Control Panel, Computer Name tab. C. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just need to exist and match on all machines. DO NOT NEGLECT TO CREATE PASSWORDS, EVEN IF ONLY SIMPLE ONES. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ |
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Theryn wrote:
I found the problem. Even tho I'd named my user account the same on both machines (tlogin), in the task manager on the Vista Home machine the user was called Owner, not the login name that displayed when you log in. I renamed that one, created a new administrator account with the preferred name (tlogin) and suddenly my new Ultimate machine would let me connect. Hopefully this will help others out there. You did a great job of troubleshooting. What you experienced is actually a very common issue and why it's important to look at the actual user account names in C:\Users (Vista) and C:\Documents and Settings (XP) and not the Display names in Control PanelUser Accounts. Thanks for taking the time to post your solution. It will definitely help others. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ |
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