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Extra Office 2007 Document Window
Often when I open an existing Word 2007 or Excel 2007 document, two document
windows open. One is the desired document. The other is a blank and untitled window perhaps better termed an 'empty' window with a pale blue color. None of the elements in the Ribbon are active (grayed out, or dimly 'blued out'). It is like a phantom window alongside the desired window. Nothing can be typed into the phantom. The phantom can be closed and the desired document remains. Also, the desired document can be closed and the phantom remains. This mainly happens when I am opening by double left clicking on a file from within a Windows folder. If I open the file by right clicking and 'Open', I do not get the double document. The behavior is inconsistent; after a few various Office documents are opened, the behavior ceases and only the desired window appears. Behavior is confined to Word and Excel; double clicking on other types of documents, such as text, Acrobat, or photo files does not give this problem. I have posted this problem in various Word or Office newsgroups, but no responses as yet. Thanks for help. |
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Maybe your mouse 'double click' settings are two fast and what you are
actually getting is two double clicks? But why this should be confined to Word / Excel ???????? - curious "On Request" wrote in message ... Often when I open an existing Word 2007 or Excel 2007 document, two document windows open. One is the desired document. The other is a blank and untitled window perhaps better termed an 'empty' window with a pale blue color. None of the elements in the Ribbon are active (grayed out, or dimly 'blued out'). It is like a phantom window alongside the desired window. Nothing can be typed into the phantom. The phantom can be closed and the desired document remains. Also, the desired document can be closed and the phantom remains. This mainly happens when I am opening by double left clicking on a file from within a Windows folder. If I open the file by right clicking and 'Open', I do not get the double document. The behavior is inconsistent; after a few various Office documents are opened, the behavior ceases and only the desired window appears. Behavior is confined to Word and Excel; double clicking on other types of documents, such as text, Acrobat, or photo files does not give this problem. I have posted this problem in various Word or Office newsgroups, but no responses as yet. Thanks for help. |
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Start Task Manager (Ctrl+Alt+Del \ Task Manager) and note what applications
are running. Double-click a file and note what changes in the applications occur. That may give a clue about where the other window is coming from. -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) "On Request" wrote in message ... Often when I open an existing Word 2007 or Excel 2007 document, two document windows open. One is the desired document. The other is a blank and untitled window perhaps better termed an 'empty' window with a pale blue color. None of the elements in the Ribbon are active (grayed out, or dimly 'blued out'). It is like a phantom window alongside the desired window. Nothing can be typed into the phantom. The phantom can be closed and the desired document remains. Also, the desired document can be closed and the phantom remains. This mainly happens when I am opening by double left clicking on a file from within a Windows folder. If I open the file by right clicking and 'Open', I do not get the double document. The behavior is inconsistent; after a few various Office documents are opened, the behavior ceases and only the desired window appears. Behavior is confined to Word and Excel; double clicking on other types of documents, such as text, Acrobat, or photo files does not give this problem. I have posted this problem in various Word or Office newsgroups, but no responses as yet. Thanks for help. |
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Jeff Richards -- I did open some Word documents with Task Manager
Applications also open as you suggested. Not sure I learned much, but some things may be of interest. When I open a file by right-click + Open, I see one application task in T.M. that begins with the normal Word 2007 file icon on the left: a small W with a few tiny lines (within the icon) under the W. Then Filename - Microsoft Word non-commercial use; then under Status is shown Running. This is the desired file. When I open a file by double-clicking with the left mouse, two application tasks show up in T.M. Neither of these tasks has the normal Word 2007 icon on the left; instead there is a (slightly) different icon where the W is slightly canted to the right and has no lines under it. I think this is the icon for the program itself instead of the icon for the file? The line that indicates the desired task goes on with Filename - Microsoft Word non-commercial use; then under Status is shown Running. The line that indicates the 'phantom' task has that (program?) icon followed with only Microsoft Word non-commercial use (that is without a Filename); it also shows its status as Running. So, to recap, the phantom task does show up in Task Manager along with the desired file, but has no Filename shown. Just for interest: In Task Manager, there are two instances of WINWORD.EXE that are shown in Processes, when I use the double click method. Excel openings are similar to Word openings; both the desired and phantom files show up in Task Manager Applications and two instances of EXCEL.EXE in Processes. Any other thoughts appreciated. John ------------------------------------------ "Jeff Richards" wrote in message ... Start Task Manager (Ctrl+Alt+Del \ Task Manager) and note what applications are running. Double-click a file and note what changes in the applications occur. That may give a clue about where the other window is coming from. -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) "On Request" wrote in message ... Often when I open an existing Word 2007 or Excel 2007 document, two document windows open. One is the desired document. The other is a blank and untitled window perhaps better termed an 'empty' window with a pale blue color. None of the elements in the Ribbon are active (grayed out, or dimly 'blued out'). It is like a phantom window alongside the desired window. Nothing can be typed into the phantom. The phantom can be closed and the desired document remains. Also, the desired document can be closed and the phantom remains. This mainly happens when I am opening by double left clicking on a file from within a Windows folder. If I open the file by right clicking and 'Open', I do not get the double document. The behavior is inconsistent; after a few various Office documents are opened, the behavior ceases and only the desired window appears. Behavior is confined to Word and Excel; double clicking on other types of documents, such as text, Acrobat, or photo files does not give this problem. I have posted this problem in various Word or Office newsgroups, but no responses as yet. Thanks for help. |
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OK. That indicates that WORD is seeing the file as some special type that
requires the second Window. The other possibility was that the second application to start would be something completely different, which would indicate a problem with your file association settings. Although that can't be ruled out, your testing does indicate that it could be an issue with WORD, so you could try asking in a WORD group. For instance, WORD might be seeing that the file has a macro, so it opens a window to process that Macro, but for some reason nothing ever happens. If that's what is going on, then the WORD people might know why. Same for EXCEL. You can look at file associations for yourself to see if there may be an issue there. A list of suitable utilities is he http://www.mydigitallife.info/2008/0...agement-tools/ This one appears adequate: http://frank.neatstep.com/custom/get.php?f=ftm201.zip FWIW my &Open command for Microsoft Office Word Document is "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office 12\WINWORD.EXE" /n /dde -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) "On Request" wrote in message ... Jeff Richards -- I did open some Word documents with Task Manager Applications also open as you suggested. Not sure I learned much, but some things may be of interest. When I open a file by right-click + Open, I see one application task in T.M. that begins with the normal Word 2007 file icon on the left: a small W with a few tiny lines (within the icon) under the W. Then Filename - Microsoft Word non-commercial use; then under Status is shown Running. This is the desired file. When I open a file by double-clicking with the left mouse, two application tasks show up in T.M. Neither of these tasks has the normal Word 2007 icon on the left; instead there is a (slightly) different icon where the W is slightly canted to the right and has no lines under it. I think this is the icon for the program itself instead of the icon for the file? The line that indicates the desired task goes on with Filename - Microsoft Word non-commercial use; then under Status is shown Running. The line that indicates the 'phantom' task has that (program?) icon followed with only Microsoft Word non-commercial use (that is without a Filename); it also shows its status as Running. So, to recap, the phantom task does show up in Task Manager along with the desired file, but has no Filename shown. Just for interest: In Task Manager, there are two instances of WINWORD.EXE that are shown in Processes, when I use the double click method. Excel openings are similar to Word openings; both the desired and phantom files show up in Task Manager Applications and two instances of EXCEL.EXE in Processes. Any other thoughts appreciated. John ------------------------------------------ "Jeff Richards" wrote in message ... Start Task Manager (Ctrl+Alt+Del \ Task Manager) and note what applications are running. Double-click a file and note what changes in the applications occur. That may give a clue about where the other window is coming from. -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) "On Request" wrote in message ... Often when I open an existing Word 2007 or Excel 2007 document, two document windows open. One is the desired document. The other is a blank and untitled window perhaps better termed an 'empty' window with a pale blue color. None of the elements in the Ribbon are active (grayed out, or dimly 'blued out'). It is like a phantom window alongside the desired window. Nothing can be typed into the phantom. The phantom can be closed and the desired document remains. Also, the desired document can be closed and the phantom remains. This mainly happens when I am opening by double left clicking on a file from within a Windows folder. If I open the file by right clicking and 'Open', I do not get the double document. The behavior is inconsistent; after a few various Office documents are opened, the behavior ceases and only the desired window appears. Behavior is confined to Word and Excel; double clicking on other types of documents, such as text, Acrobat, or photo files does not give this problem. I have posted this problem in various Word or Office newsgroups, but no responses as yet. Thanks for help. |