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FAX in Vista Home Premium
I contacted Dell support and was told that Windows Vista Premium does not
have fax software. I checked the internet for third party software that is supposed to work with Vista and found "RKS fax"at http://www.rkssoftware.com/rksfax/overview.html I don't know how well it works not having tried it yet. Anybody tried it out who would care to comment on it? "NYCLatinLefty" wrote: :::: I also agree with Susan, about not being able to fax with Vista Home Premium, especially when you consider that Windows XP had this capability. One would naturally expect an upgraded version - that has "Premium" in its name - to have a capability that was basic with Windows XP. (I purchased a new DELL laptop XPS with Vista Home Premium.) To add to the confusion technicians at DELL & HP didn't know about this problem when asked about compatibility issues pertaining to Vista before the purchase and afterwards when I spoke to the DELL Technicians about this issue. Supposedly DELL has come out with a new patch to allow faxing with Vista Home Premium. You have to check their website for the appropriate driver. -- NYCLatinLefty ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NYCLatinLefty's Profile: http://forums.techarena.in/member.php?userid=30236 View this thread: http://forums.techarena.in/showthread.php?t=666665 http://forums.techarena.in |
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FAX in Vista Home Premium
And I'd like to point out:
The specs say "Windows Fax and Scan" is not available in the home edition. What IS "Windows Fax and Scan"? The description says that it "makes faxing easier". It does NOT say that faxing doesn't work without it. The argument "you should have read the specs" presumes that somewhere the specs say "you will not be able to fax with the Home edition". "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: I understand your point and am sympathetic. It seems to me, however, that the decision to upgrade one's entire OS needs to be made more carefully and thoughtfully than it often is. The feature set comparison among Vista versions is not hard to find. The fact that fax is absent in Vista Home versions is well documented on Microsoft's own site as well: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...footnotes.mspx In reality modem faxing is a feature that is used so little by most users that it was nearly eliminated entirely from both Windows XP and Vista. To my surprise, the Vista Fax module is the most useful and robust of any of the Microsoft Fax offerings so far. How reliable it is remains to be seen now that it has been released in the wild. For users like Susan who unwittingly leapt to Vista Home expecting it still to have fax capabilities, they can still purchase a standalone fax machine for less than the cost differential between Vista Home and Ultimate. Caveat emptor. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "G" wrote in message ... I'm gonna have to side with Susan on this one. Lots of people here are quick to point out that fax isn't included with the Home Premium edition by pointing out the link, or say "you should have read the features before you bought it" but likely these are the same people that didn't even know fax was included in Windows XP and Windows 2000. Even Bill Gates said most people are going to buy Home Premium...not Business and not Ultimate. Its the average person that uses the built in fax in Windows to send the occasional fax. By removing this, they are ****ing off a lot of Home Premium customers expecting that Windows Vista Home Premium is going to do everything Windows XP did, only better. "bjr" wrote in message ... It's detailed in the Windows Vista Product guide, which tells you everything you ever wanted to know about Vista - a large but free download from Microsoft. http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en Here is the comparison we reference from CNET: http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3672_7-6687907-1.html Note the 3rd entry in the table from the bottom. Susan wrote: guys, please stop. I came to ask a question, perhaps find a solution from another party and I get only attitude. Is this a community area for regular windows users to ask questions and hopefully get some decent advise or is this only for professional types who follow software development? I haven't been following the development of Vista for a year, nor do I feel that I have to. Microsoft has a long standing goal of selling operating systems that everyone can use, and I believe I am in the group of everyone. I am not whining. Can you tell me where on the Vista box it says no fax? I also don't see it on the side by side comparison that is designed to help people make a choice. I'm not seeing it. Also, I upgraded from XP home and the problem is with Vista not working with the fax software that worked with XP. I have a Dell XPS--only five months old, but I'm sure a patch is forthcoming. "bjr" wrote: You should have read the list of features in each version before you buy. That info has been available for about a year. The fax has NEVER been part of Premium, only Ultimate and Business. If fax software came with your modem, try installing that. Otherwise, stop whining and go buy some fax software. There are many to choose from. Susan wrote: Russ, sorry I'm not as astute as you are. Your reply however, is not helpful. A slap on the wrist might make some feel superior, but without any concrete suggestions to add to the string, is nothing more than a slap on the wrist, best to keep the chastising to yourself - it makes you sound smug. The bottom line is that the program is lacking a fundamental communications tool and without user input the developers will not know what areas need to be addressed and included in future service packs. "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: Normally when making a purchase one looks at the features needed and purchases the appropriate version to meet one's needs. This information is all well documented. You can still view your old faxes quite readily. TIF files open in Windows Photo Gallery. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Susan" wrote in message ... You have got to be kidding. I have vista home premium but I still need to send and receive faxes!!!! I had this capability with XP, and I am very upset that it is not available with Vista which I just installed yesterday Feb 3. Does Microsoft believe that home users never receive or send faxes? What are my options? How am I to view the faxes I have saved in my documents? I urgently need to have this capability on my computer and I am sure I am not alone in this need. "John Barnett MVP" wrote: It's doubtful, Microsoft, as far as i know, haven't supplied the fax software as a separate item for other versions of Windows operating systems. You may have to look at third party fax applications for this one. Alternatively you would have to look to buying Vista Business or Ultimate instead of Premium. -- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert Windows Shell/User Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this mail/post.. "BoB Brazie" wrote in message ... Thanks John. Do you suppose it might be available as a separate download sometime for the other versions of Vista? "John Barnett MVP" wrote in message ... Fax facility is only available in Vista Business, Enterprise and Ultimate. Word 2007 provides plenty of fax cover templates but still relies, as far as i know, on the fax software of Vista Business, Enterprise and Ultimate. It doesn't contain a fax application on its own. -- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert Windows Shell/User Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this mail/post.. "BoB Brazie" wrote in message ... Will some form of FAXing and scanning be available in the Home Premium edition or only in the business edition. I have need for both of these features but do not want the business edition. Maybe they are available in the Office 2007 standard suite? Thanks in advance. Bob. |
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FAX in Vista Home Premium
It is all very clear when you read the fine print.
-- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "mb" wrote in message ... And I'd like to point out: The specs say "Windows Fax and Scan" is not available in the home edition. What IS "Windows Fax and Scan"? The description says that it "makes faxing easier". It does NOT say that faxing doesn't work without it. The argument "you should have read the specs" presumes that somewhere the specs say "you will not be able to fax with the Home edition". "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: I understand your point and am sympathetic. It seems to me, however, that the decision to upgrade one's entire OS needs to be made more carefully and thoughtfully than it often is. The feature set comparison among Vista versions is not hard to find. The fact that fax is absent in Vista Home versions is well documented on Microsoft's own site as well: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...footnotes.mspx In reality modem faxing is a feature that is used so little by most users that it was nearly eliminated entirely from both Windows XP and Vista. To my surprise, the Vista Fax module is the most useful and robust of any of the Microsoft Fax offerings so far. How reliable it is remains to be seen now that it has been released in the wild. For users like Susan who unwittingly leapt to Vista Home expecting it still to have fax capabilities, they can still purchase a standalone fax machine for less than the cost differential between Vista Home and Ultimate. Caveat emptor. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "G" wrote in message ... I'm gonna have to side with Susan on this one. Lots of people here are quick to point out that fax isn't included with the Home Premium edition by pointing out the link, or say "you should have read the features before you bought it" but likely these are the same people that didn't even know fax was included in Windows XP and Windows 2000. Even Bill Gates said most people are going to buy Home Premium...not Business and not Ultimate. Its the average person that uses the built in fax in Windows to send the occasional fax. By removing this, they are ****ing off a lot of Home Premium customers expecting that Windows Vista Home Premium is going to do everything Windows XP did, only better. "bjr" wrote in message ... It's detailed in the Windows Vista Product guide, which tells you everything you ever wanted to know about Vista - a large but free download from Microsoft. http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en Here is the comparison we reference from CNET: http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3672_7-6687907-1.html Note the 3rd entry in the table from the bottom. Susan wrote: guys, please stop. I came to ask a question, perhaps find a solution from another party and I get only attitude. Is this a community area for regular windows users to ask questions and hopefully get some decent advise or is this only for professional types who follow software development? I haven't been following the development of Vista for a year, nor do I feel that I have to. Microsoft has a long standing goal of selling operating systems that everyone can use, and I believe I am in the group of everyone. I am not whining. Can you tell me where on the Vista box it says no fax? I also don't see it on the side by side comparison that is designed to help people make a choice. I'm not seeing it. Also, I upgraded from XP home and the problem is with Vista not working with the fax software that worked with XP. I have a Dell XPS--only five months old, but I'm sure a patch is forthcoming. "bjr" wrote: You should have read the list of features in each version before you buy. That info has been available for about a year. The fax has NEVER been part of Premium, only Ultimate and Business. If fax software came with your modem, try installing that. Otherwise, stop whining and go buy some fax software. There are many to choose from. Susan wrote: Russ, sorry I'm not as astute as you are. Your reply however, is not helpful. A slap on the wrist might make some feel superior, but without any concrete suggestions to add to the string, is nothing more than a slap on the wrist, best to keep the chastising to yourself - it makes you sound smug. The bottom line is that the program is lacking a fundamental communications tool and without user input the developers will not know what areas need to be addressed and included in future service packs. "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: Normally when making a purchase one looks at the features needed and purchases the appropriate version to meet one's needs. This information is all well documented. You can still view your old faxes quite readily. TIF files open in Windows Photo Gallery. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Susan" wrote in message ... You have got to be kidding. I have vista home premium but I still need to send and receive faxes!!!! I had this capability with XP, and I am very upset that it is not available with Vista which I just installed yesterday Feb 3. Does Microsoft believe that home users never receive or send faxes? What are my options? How am I to view the faxes I have saved in my documents? I urgently need to have this capability on my computer and I am sure I am not alone in this need. "John Barnett MVP" wrote: It's doubtful, Microsoft, as far as i know, haven't supplied the fax software as a separate item for other versions of Windows operating systems. You may have to look at third party fax applications for this one. Alternatively you would have to look to buying Vista Business or Ultimate instead of Premium. -- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert Windows Shell/User Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this mail/post.. "BoB Brazie" wrote in message ... Thanks John. Do you suppose it might be available as a separate download sometime for the other versions of Vista? "John Barnett MVP" wrote in message ... Fax facility is only available in Vista Business, Enterprise and Ultimate. Word 2007 provides plenty of fax cover templates but still relies, as far as i know, on the fax software of Vista Business, Enterprise and Ultimate. It doesn't contain a fax application on its own. -- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert Windows Shell/User Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this mail/post.. "BoB Brazie" wrote in message ... Will some form of FAXing and scanning be available in the Home Premium edition or only in the business edition. I have need for both of these features but do not want the business edition. Maybe they are available in the Office 2007 standard suite? Thanks in advance. Bob. |
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FAX in Vista Home Premium
FWIW: I also was _extremely_disappointed_ to see that MS did not include a simple fax program in Home Premium. Faxing with XP kept me paperless. Now I am using an AIO printer for faxes. Why? For the same reason I have to use a USB mouse instead of my wireless mouse: too many programs and peripheals *-DON'T work with Vista-*. Hard to believe it's been out for a year... Just my opinion... It sure would be nice to see a "simple" fax program (like the one in XP) come out in a Vista SP like Windows Movie Maker did for XP. =?Utf-8?B?U3VzYW4=?=;86083 Wrote: guys, please stop. I came to ask a question, perhaps find a solution from another party and I get only attitude. Is this a community area for regular windows users to ask questions and hopefully get some decent advise or is this only for professional types who follow software development? I haven't been following the development of Vista for a year, nor do I feel that I have to. Microsoft has a long standing goal of selling operating systems that everyone can use, and I believe I am in the group of everyone. I am not whining. Can you tell me where on the Vista box it says no fax? I also don't see it on the side by side comparison that is designed to help people make a choice. I'm not seeing it. Also, I upgraded from XP home and the problem is with Vista not working with the fax software that worked with XP. I have a Dell XPS--only five months old, but I'm sure a patch is forthcoming. "bjr" wrote: You should have read the list of features in each version before you buy. That info has been available for about a year. The fax has NEVER been part of Premium, only Ultimate and Business. If fax software came with your modem, try installing that. Otherwise, stop whining and go buy some fax software. There are many to choose from. -- simrick405 Posted via http://www.vistaheads.com |
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FAX in Vista Home Premium
"simrick405" wrote in
message ... FWIW: I also was _extremely_disappointed_ to see that MS did not include a simple fax program in Home Premium. Faxing with XP kept me paperless. Now I am using an AIO printer for faxes. Why? For the same reason I have to use a USB mouse instead of my wireless mouse: too many programs and peripheals *-DON'T work with Vista-*. Hard to believe it's been out for a year... Just my opinion... It sure would be nice to see a "simple" fax program (like the one in XP) come out in a Vista SP like Windows Movie Maker did for XP. =?Utf-8?B?U3VzYW4=?=;86083 Wrote: guys, please stop. I came to ask a question, perhaps find a solution from another party and I get only attitude. Is this a community area for regular windows users to ask questions and hopefully get some decent advise or is this only for professional types who follow software development? I haven't been following the development of Vista for a year, nor do I feel that I have to. Microsoft has a long standing goal of selling operating systems that everyone can use, and I believe I am in the group of everyone. I am not whining. Can you tell me where on the Vista box it says no fax? I also don't see it on the side by side comparison that is designed to help people make a choice. I'm not seeing it. Also, I upgraded from XP home and the problem is with Vista not working with the fax software that worked with XP. I have a Dell XPS--only five months old, but I'm sure a patch is forthcoming. "bjr" wrote: You should have read the list of features in each version before you buy. That info has been available for about a year. The fax has NEVER been part of Premium, only Ultimate and Business. If fax software came with your modem, try installing that. Otherwise, stop whining and go buy some fax software. There are many to choose from. -- simrick405 Posted via http://www.vistaheads.com Snappy Fax works well apparently.. cheap too.. http://www.snappysoftware.com/ Most complained about Windows Fax in earlier Windows and either used BVRP or WinFax Pro.. -- Mike Hall - MVP How to construct a good post.. http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups.. http://support.microsoft.com/default...help&style=toc Mike's Window - My Blog.. http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx |
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FAX in Vista Home Premium
We use Aloaha FAX Suite (www.aloaha.com) and are pretty happy with that!
"mb" schrieb im Newsbeitrag ... And I'd like to point out: The specs say "Windows Fax and Scan" is not available in the home edition. What IS "Windows Fax and Scan"? The description says that it "makes faxing easier". It does NOT say that faxing doesn't work without it. The argument "you should have read the specs" presumes that somewhere the specs say "you will not be able to fax with the Home edition". "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: I understand your point and am sympathetic. It seems to me, however, that the decision to upgrade one's entire OS needs to be made more carefully and thoughtfully than it often is. The feature set comparison among Vista versions is not hard to find. The fact that fax is absent in Vista Home versions is well documented on Microsoft's own site as well: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...footnotes.mspx In reality modem faxing is a feature that is used so little by most users that it was nearly eliminated entirely from both Windows XP and Vista. To my surprise, the Vista Fax module is the most useful and robust of any of the Microsoft Fax offerings so far. How reliable it is remains to be seen now that it has been released in the wild. For users like Susan who unwittingly leapt to Vista Home expecting it still to have fax capabilities, they can still purchase a standalone fax machine for less than the cost differential between Vista Home and Ultimate. Caveat emptor. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "G" wrote in message ... I'm gonna have to side with Susan on this one. Lots of people here are quick to point out that fax isn't included with the Home Premium edition by pointing out the link, or say "you should have read the features before you bought it" but likely these are the same people that didn't even know fax was included in Windows XP and Windows 2000. Even Bill Gates said most people are going to buy Home Premium...not Business and not Ultimate. Its the average person that uses the built in fax in Windows to send the occasional fax. By removing this, they are ****ing off a lot of Home Premium customers expecting that Windows Vista Home Premium is going to do everything Windows XP did, only better. "bjr" wrote in message ... It's detailed in the Windows Vista Product guide, which tells you everything you ever wanted to know about Vista - a large but free download from Microsoft. http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en Here is the comparison we reference from CNET: http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3672_7-6687907-1.html Note the 3rd entry in the table from the bottom. Susan wrote: guys, please stop. I came to ask a question, perhaps find a solution from another party and I get only attitude. Is this a community area for regular windows users to ask questions and hopefully get some decent advise or is this only for professional types who follow software development? I haven't been following the development of Vista for a year, nor do I feel that I have to. Microsoft has a long standing goal of selling operating systems that everyone can use, and I believe I am in the group of everyone. I am not whining. Can you tell me where on the Vista box it says no fax? I also don't see it on the side by side comparison that is designed to help people make a choice. I'm not seeing it. Also, I upgraded from XP home and the problem is with Vista not working with the fax software that worked with XP. I have a Dell XPS--only five months old, but I'm sure a patch is forthcoming. "bjr" wrote: You should have read the list of features in each version before you buy. That info has been available for about a year. The fax has NEVER been part of Premium, only Ultimate and Business. If fax software came with your modem, try installing that. Otherwise, stop whining and go buy some fax software. There are many to choose from. Susan wrote: Russ, sorry I'm not as astute as you are. Your reply however, is not helpful. A slap on the wrist might make some feel superior, but without any concrete suggestions to add to the string, is nothing more than a slap on the wrist, best to keep the chastising to yourself - it makes you sound smug. The bottom line is that the program is lacking a fundamental communications tool and without user input the developers will not know what areas need to be addressed and included in future service packs. "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: Normally when making a purchase one looks at the features needed and purchases the appropriate version to meet one's needs. This information is all well documented. You can still view your old faxes quite readily. TIF files open in Windows Photo Gallery. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Susan" wrote in message ... You have got to be kidding. I have vista home premium but I still need to send and receive faxes!!!! I had this capability with XP, and I am very upset that it is not available with Vista which I just installed yesterday Feb 3. Does Microsoft believe that home users never receive or send faxes? What are my options? How am I to view the faxes I have saved in my documents? I urgently need to have this capability on my computer and I am sure I am not alone in this need. "John Barnett MVP" wrote: It's doubtful, Microsoft, as far as i know, haven't supplied the fax software as a separate item for other versions of Windows operating systems. You may have to look at third party fax applications for this one. Alternatively you would have to look to buying Vista Business or Ultimate instead of Premium. -- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert Windows Shell/User Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this mail/post.. "BoB Brazie" wrote in message ... Thanks John. Do you suppose it might be available as a separate download sometime for the other versions of Vista? "John Barnett MVP" wrote in message ... Fax facility is only available in Vista Business, Enterprise and Ultimate. Word 2007 provides plenty of fax cover templates but still relies, as far as i know, on the fax software of Vista Business, Enterprise and Ultimate. It doesn't contain a fax application on its own. -- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert Windows Shell/User Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this mail/post.. "BoB Brazie" wrote in message ... Will some form of FAXing and scanning be available in the Home Premium edition or only in the business edition. I have need for both of these features but do not want the business edition. Maybe they are available in the Office 2007 standard suite? Thanks in advance. Bob. |