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Sharing Printer over TCPIP without windows networking



 
 
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Old September 1st 09, 03:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.networking.ipsec,microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing,microsoft.public.windowsnt.protocol.tcpip
S N
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Default Sharing Printer over TCPIP without windows networking

I have a WAN in my office made up of certificate security enabled different
LANs.
Windows file and printer sharing is disabled on this network and the network
addresses are alotted using DHCP.
Is it possible to share a printer attached to a PC on this network using
TCPIP without using Windows printer sharing.
What are the required settings for sharing?

S N


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Old September 1st 09, 05:28 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.networking.ipsec,microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing,microsoft.public.windowsnt.protocol.tcpip
LVTravel
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Default Sharing Printer over TCPIP without windows networking



"S N" wrote in message
...
I have a WAN in my office made up of certificate security enabled
different LANs.
Windows file and printer sharing is disabled on this network and the
network addresses are alotted using DHCP.
Is it possible to share a printer attached to a PC on this network using
TCPIP without using Windows printer sharing.
What are the required settings for sharing?

S N


If I get this straight, the printer is attached to a computer and not
directly to the network. If this is correct you must have printer sharing
enabled on the computer that has the printer attached. The host computer
actually controls the printer not the network in this case. The network
attached to the computer uses the computer's IP address that is supplied by
DHCP and would have no way of transferring data through the host computer
without printer sharing enabled and the printer would never show up on the
network.

If the printer has it's own lan card installed or you have a network printer
server attached to the printer's input (it is attached directly to a switch,
hub or router and has it's own IP address) then you would not need to attach
it directly to a computer for sharing the printer through the network.

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Old September 1st 09, 05:28 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.networking.ipsec,microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing,microsoft.public.windowsnt.protocol.tcpip
LVTravel
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Default Sharing Printer over TCPIP without windows networking



"S N" wrote in message
...
I have a WAN in my office made up of certificate security enabled
different LANs.
Windows file and printer sharing is disabled on this network and the
network addresses are alotted using DHCP.
Is it possible to share a printer attached to a PC on this network using
TCPIP without using Windows printer sharing.
What are the required settings for sharing?

S N


If I get this straight, the printer is attached to a computer and not
directly to the network. If this is correct you must have printer sharing
enabled on the computer that has the printer attached. The host computer
actually controls the printer not the network in this case. The network
attached to the computer uses the computer's IP address that is supplied by
DHCP and would have no way of transferring data through the host computer
without printer sharing enabled and the printer would never show up on the
network.

If the printer has it's own lan card installed or you have a network printer
server attached to the printer's input (it is attached directly to a switch,
hub or router and has it's own IP address) then you would not need to attach
it directly to a computer for sharing the printer through the network.

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Old September 2nd 09, 02:07 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.networking.ipsec,microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing,microsoft.public.windowsnt.protocol.tcpip
Cari \(MS-MVP\)
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Default Sharing Printer over TCPIP without windows networking

Not unless you connect the printer directly to the network.... ie via
TCP/IP, which is how must commercial printers work. All you do is assign it
a static IP and then you can print to it from any PC.
--
Cari (MS-MVP)
Windows Technologies - Printing & Imaging
http://www.coribright.com/windows


"S N" wrote in message
...
I have a WAN in my office made up of certificate security enabled different
LANs.
Windows file and printer sharing is disabled on this network and the
network addresses are alotted using DHCP.
Is it possible to share a printer attached to a PC on this network using
TCPIP without using Windows printer sharing.
What are the required settings for sharing?

S N


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Old September 2nd 09, 02:07 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.networking.ipsec,microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing,microsoft.public.windowsnt.protocol.tcpip
Cari \(MS-MVP\)
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Posts: 1,515
Default Sharing Printer over TCPIP without windows networking

Not unless you connect the printer directly to the network.... ie via
TCP/IP, which is how must commercial printers work. All you do is assign it
a static IP and then you can print to it from any PC.
--
Cari (MS-MVP)
Windows Technologies - Printing & Imaging
http://www.coribright.com/windows


"S N" wrote in message
...
I have a WAN in my office made up of certificate security enabled different
LANs.
Windows file and printer sharing is disabled on this network and the
network addresses are alotted using DHCP.
Is it possible to share a printer attached to a PC on this network using
TCPIP without using Windows printer sharing.
What are the required settings for sharing?

S N


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Old September 3rd 09, 05:02 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.networking.ipsec,microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing,microsoft.public.windowsnt.protocol.tcpip
S N
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Default Sharing Printer over TCPIP without windows networking

You have guessed it correctly.
The printer is directly connected to the PC-1 and sharing of printer is
enabled on this PC. This PC-1 is connected to a network having a particular
subnet mask.
I want to print on this printer from another PC-2 on the network having a
different subnet mask.
Further the networks on which these two PCs are connected to are segregated
by network security (certificate based on which I have no control). Hence, I
am not able to use file and printer sharing between the two PCs.
In this scenario, I want to use the printer connected to PC-1 from PC-2 as
described above.
Please advise.





"LVTravel" wrote in message
...


"S N" wrote in message
...
I have a WAN in my office made up of certificate security enabled
different LANs.
Windows file and printer sharing is disabled on this network and the
network addresses are alotted using DHCP.
Is it possible to share a printer attached to a PC on this network using
TCPIP without using Windows printer sharing.
What are the required settings for sharing?

S N


If I get this straight, the printer is attached to a computer and not
directly to the network. If this is correct you must have printer sharing
enabled on the computer that has the printer attached. The host computer
actually controls the printer not the network in this case. The network
attached to the computer uses the computer's IP address that is supplied
by DHCP and would have no way of transferring data through the host
computer without printer sharing enabled and the printer would never show
up on the network.

If the printer has it's own lan card installed or you have a network
printer server attached to the printer's input (it is attached directly to
a switch, hub or router and has it's own IP address) then you would not
need to attach it directly to a computer for sharing the printer through
the network.



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Old September 3rd 09, 05:02 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.networking.ipsec,microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing,microsoft.public.windowsnt.protocol.tcpip
S N
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Posts: 4
Default Sharing Printer over TCPIP without windows networking

You have guessed it correctly.
The printer is directly connected to the PC-1 and sharing of printer is
enabled on this PC. This PC-1 is connected to a network having a particular
subnet mask.
I want to print on this printer from another PC-2 on the network having a
different subnet mask.
Further the networks on which these two PCs are connected to are segregated
by network security (certificate based on which I have no control). Hence, I
am not able to use file and printer sharing between the two PCs.
In this scenario, I want to use the printer connected to PC-1 from PC-2 as
described above.
Please advise.





"LVTravel" wrote in message
...


"S N" wrote in message
...
I have a WAN in my office made up of certificate security enabled
different LANs.
Windows file and printer sharing is disabled on this network and the
network addresses are alotted using DHCP.
Is it possible to share a printer attached to a PC on this network using
TCPIP without using Windows printer sharing.
What are the required settings for sharing?

S N


If I get this straight, the printer is attached to a computer and not
directly to the network. If this is correct you must have printer sharing
enabled on the computer that has the printer attached. The host computer
actually controls the printer not the network in this case. The network
attached to the computer uses the computer's IP address that is supplied
by DHCP and would have no way of transferring data through the host
computer without printer sharing enabled and the printer would never show
up on the network.

If the printer has it's own lan card installed or you have a network
printer server attached to the printer's input (it is attached directly to
a switch, hub or router and has it's own IP address) then you would not
need to attach it directly to a computer for sharing the printer through
the network.



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Old September 3rd 09, 06:24 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.networking.ipsec,microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing,microsoft.public.windowsnt.protocol.tcpip
LVTravel
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Default Sharing Printer over TCPIP without windows networking



"S N" wrote in message
...
You have guessed it correctly.
The printer is directly connected to the PC-1 and sharing of printer is
enabled on this PC. This PC-1 is connected to a network having a
particular subnet mask.
I want to print on this printer from another PC-2 on the network having a
different subnet mask.
Further the networks on which these two PCs are connected to are
segregated by network security (certificate based on which I have no
control). Hence, I am not able to use file and printer sharing between the
two PCs.
In this scenario, I want to use the printer connected to PC-1 from PC-2 as
described above.
Please advise.





"LVTravel" wrote in message
...


"S N" wrote in message
...
I have a WAN in my office made up of certificate security enabled
different LANs.
Windows file and printer sharing is disabled on this network and the
network addresses are alotted using DHCP.
Is it possible to share a printer attached to a PC on this network using
TCPIP without using Windows printer sharing.
What are the required settings for sharing?

S N


If I get this straight, the printer is attached to a computer and not
directly to the network. If this is correct you must have printer
sharing enabled on the computer that has the printer attached. The host
computer actually controls the printer not the network in this case. The
network attached to the computer uses the computer's IP address that is
supplied by DHCP and would have no way of transferring data through the
host computer without printer sharing enabled and the printer would never
show up on the network.

If the printer has it's own lan card installed or you have a network
printer server attached to the printer's input (it is attached directly
to a switch, hub or router and has it's own IP address) then you would
not need to attach it directly to a computer for sharing the printer
through the network.




It has been a really long time for me to share printers this way and I am
sure someone else will respond if I am incorrect but IIRC you would need to
put in a trust relationship between the two systems though the server to
allow one computer on one side to access the computer on the other side.
Remember it is the two computer that will be "talking" between each other to
share the printer, not the printer with the computer on the other subnet.
AFAIK you will have to get really friendly with the lan administrator at the
business to enable the setup. Since you are using site certificates for
security this may or may not be easily remedied.

Sorry I can't be more help.

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Old September 3rd 09, 06:24 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.networking.ipsec,microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing,microsoft.public.windowsnt.protocol.tcpip
LVTravel
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Posts: 281
Default Sharing Printer over TCPIP without windows networking



"S N" wrote in message
...
You have guessed it correctly.
The printer is directly connected to the PC-1 and sharing of printer is
enabled on this PC. This PC-1 is connected to a network having a
particular subnet mask.
I want to print on this printer from another PC-2 on the network having a
different subnet mask.
Further the networks on which these two PCs are connected to are
segregated by network security (certificate based on which I have no
control). Hence, I am not able to use file and printer sharing between the
two PCs.
In this scenario, I want to use the printer connected to PC-1 from PC-2 as
described above.
Please advise.





"LVTravel" wrote in message
...


"S N" wrote in message
...
I have a WAN in my office made up of certificate security enabled
different LANs.
Windows file and printer sharing is disabled on this network and the
network addresses are alotted using DHCP.
Is it possible to share a printer attached to a PC on this network using
TCPIP without using Windows printer sharing.
What are the required settings for sharing?

S N


If I get this straight, the printer is attached to a computer and not
directly to the network. If this is correct you must have printer
sharing enabled on the computer that has the printer attached. The host
computer actually controls the printer not the network in this case. The
network attached to the computer uses the computer's IP address that is
supplied by DHCP and would have no way of transferring data through the
host computer without printer sharing enabled and the printer would never
show up on the network.

If the printer has it's own lan card installed or you have a network
printer server attached to the printer's input (it is attached directly
to a switch, hub or router and has it's own IP address) then you would
not need to attach it directly to a computer for sharing the printer
through the network.




It has been a really long time for me to share printers this way and I am
sure someone else will respond if I am incorrect but IIRC you would need to
put in a trust relationship between the two systems though the server to
allow one computer on one side to access the computer on the other side.
Remember it is the two computer that will be "talking" between each other to
share the printer, not the printer with the computer on the other subnet.
AFAIK you will have to get really friendly with the lan administrator at the
business to enable the setup. Since you are using site certificates for
security this may or may not be easily remedied.

Sorry I can't be more help.

 




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