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Old September 21st 09, 11:09 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Chris
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Default Bluescreens plus download problems

I have a couple of problems with Windows Vista Home Premium that have both
been getting worse and more frequent:

* system freezes / crashes - the error reports suggest a problem with
networking hardware, but the drivers seem to be completely up to date. One
of the "solutions" did make reference to Vista having problems with older
networking hardware, but wasn't clear on how to diagnose this, or tell which
hardware gives a problem. My ADSL modem is quite old, so may be part of the
problem - details below.

* file downloads stop part way through - doesn't crash or give an error
message, just stops saving any more data so the download process nevers ends
(or gets timed out, depending on the application). I first noticed this as a
problem with Windows Update, specifically the Windows Mail Junk email filter
wouldn't download. The error report number was 800B0100, this suggested
downloading the CheckSUR tool. I tried to download this tool, but couldn't
do this due to the problem with downloading described above. The same
problem with downloading files has since appeared with downloading files from
other sites eg software for a Nokia phone, video and audio files on YouTube,
BBC etc. Most recently, it has started affecting my Kaspersky AV - the
updates get timed out so the AV is increasingly out of date.

I'm not a very technical person so if replies could be pitched at your
average dumb user I'd be very grateful.

System details:
Dell XPS M1330
BIOS version Dell Inc. A12, 08/07/2008
Vista 32 bit Home Premium, Version 6.0.6001 SP1 (SP2 update failed due to
the downloading problem, but individual updates have been kept up to date
apart from the Windows Mail one)
Kaspersky Internet Security 2009 (Windows Firewall turned off as recommended
to stop conflicts)
MS Office 2007 Professional (so using Outlook rather than Windows Mail)
Network adapter: Broadcom NetLink Fast Ethernet (type 802.3)
ADSL modem: ASUS AAM6000EV (about 7 or 8 years old) plus a little 8 port
hub, both been working fine forever


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Old September 21st 09, 11:40 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Malke[_2_]
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Default Bluescreens plus download problems

Chris wrote:

I have a couple of problems with Windows Vista Home Premium that have both
been getting worse and more frequent:

* system freezes / crashes - the error reports suggest a problem with
networking hardware, but the drivers seem to be completely up to date.
One of the "solutions" did make reference to Vista having problems with
older networking hardware, but wasn't clear on how to diagnose this, or
tell which
hardware gives a problem. My ADSL modem is quite old, so may be part of
the problem - details below.

* file downloads stop part way through - doesn't crash or give an error
message, just stops saving any more data so the download process nevers
ends
(or gets timed out, depending on the application). I first noticed this
as a problem with Windows Update, specifically the Windows Mail Junk email
filter
wouldn't download. The error report number was 800B0100, this suggested
downloading the CheckSUR tool. I tried to download this tool, but
couldn't
do this due to the problem with downloading described above. The same
problem with downloading files has since appeared with downloading files
from other sites eg software for a Nokia phone, video and audio files on
YouTube,
BBC etc. Most recently, it has started affecting my Kaspersky AV - the
updates get timed out so the AV is increasingly out of date.

I'm not a very technical person so if replies could be pitched at your
average dumb user I'd be very grateful.

System details:
Dell XPS M1330
BIOS version Dell Inc. A12, 08/07/2008
Vista 32 bit Home Premium, Version 6.0.6001 SP1 (SP2 update failed due to
the downloading problem, but individual updates have been kept up to date
apart from the Windows Mail one)
Kaspersky Internet Security 2009 (Windows Firewall turned off as
recommended to stop conflicts)
MS Office 2007 Professional (so using Outlook rather than Windows Mail)
Network adapter: Broadcom NetLink Fast Ethernet (type 802.3)
ADSL modem: ASUS AAM6000EV (about 7 or 8 years old) plus a little 8 port
hub, both been working fine forever


This definitely sounds like hardware. Since you have a laptop, you can't just
swap out the network adapter. To decide whether your ancient modem is
causing the issue (seems unlikely to me - I would think you'd just lose
connectivity) or the laptop's hardware, I'd boot with a Linux Live CD like
Knoppix. If all is well under Linux, then you know it's a software issue in
Windows. I'd start by completely uninstalling Kaspersky and testing. Because
your Asus is a router, you should be OK to test without an antivirus. Just
don't go surfing anywhere questionable.

If you still get system crashes using Knoppix, then take the laptop to a
friend's house and see if the problems occur on a different network. You can
go back to Windows for this. If the problems are there on a different
network, then you know the Broadcom network adapter is at fault.
Unfortunately, this is on the motherboard so you'll have to call Dell tech
support for a motherboard replacement.

You know yourself best and decide if it would be better to take the machine
to a competent local tech for testing/diagnosis. If you do this, don't use a
BigComputerStore/GeekSquad type of place.

Malke
--
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ

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Old September 21st 09, 11:40 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Malke[_2_]
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Default Bluescreens plus download problems


Chris wrote:

I have a couple of problems with Windows Vista Home Premium that have both
been getting worse and more frequent:

* system freezes / crashes - the error reports suggest a problem with
networking hardware, but the drivers seem to be completely up to date.
One of the "solutions" did make reference to Vista having problems with
older networking hardware, but wasn't clear on how to diagnose this, or
tell which
hardware gives a problem. My ADSL modem is quite old, so may be part of
the problem - details below.

* file downloads stop part way through - doesn't crash or give an error
message, just stops saving any more data so the download process nevers
ends
(or gets timed out, depending on the application). I first noticed this
as a problem with Windows Update, specifically the Windows Mail Junk email
filter
wouldn't download. The error report number was 800B0100, this suggested
downloading the CheckSUR tool. I tried to download this tool, but
couldn't
do this due to the problem with downloading described above. The same
problem with downloading files has since appeared with downloading files
from other sites eg software for a Nokia phone, video and audio files on
YouTube,
BBC etc. Most recently, it has started affecting my Kaspersky AV - the
updates get timed out so the AV is increasingly out of date.

I'm not a very technical person so if replies could be pitched at your
average dumb user I'd be very grateful.

System details:
Dell XPS M1330
BIOS version Dell Inc. A12, 08/07/2008
Vista 32 bit Home Premium, Version 6.0.6001 SP1 (SP2 update failed due to
the downloading problem, but individual updates have been kept up to date
apart from the Windows Mail one)
Kaspersky Internet Security 2009 (Windows Firewall turned off as
recommended to stop conflicts)
MS Office 2007 Professional (so using Outlook rather than Windows Mail)
Network adapter: Broadcom NetLink Fast Ethernet (type 802.3)
ADSL modem: ASUS AAM6000EV (about 7 or 8 years old) plus a little 8 port
hub, both been working fine forever


This definitely sounds like hardware. Since you have a laptop, you can't just
swap out the network adapter. To decide whether your ancient modem is
causing the issue (seems unlikely to me - I would think you'd just lose
connectivity) or the laptop's hardware, I'd boot with a Linux Live CD like
Knoppix. If all is well under Linux, then you know it's a software issue in
Windows. I'd start by completely uninstalling Kaspersky and testing. Because
your Asus is a router, you should be OK to test without an antivirus. Just
don't go surfing anywhere questionable.

If you still get system crashes using Knoppix, then take the laptop to a
friend's house and see if the problems occur on a different network. You can
go back to Windows for this. If the problems are there on a different
network, then you know the Broadcom network adapter is at fault.
Unfortunately, this is on the motherboard so you'll have to call Dell tech
support for a motherboard replacement.

You know yourself best and decide if it would be better to take the machine
to a competent local tech for testing/diagnosis. If you do this, don't use a
BigComputerStore/GeekSquad type of place.

Malke
--
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ

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Old September 21st 09, 02:03 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
SC Tom
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Default Bluescreens plus download problems


"Chris" wrote in message
...
I have a couple of problems with Windows Vista Home Premium that have both
been getting worse and more frequent:

* system freezes / crashes - the error reports suggest a problem with
networking hardware, but the drivers seem to be completely up to date.
One
of the "solutions" did make reference to Vista having problems with older
networking hardware, but wasn't clear on how to diagnose this, or tell
which
hardware gives a problem. My ADSL modem is quite old, so may be part of
the
problem - details below.

* file downloads stop part way through - doesn't crash or give an error
message, just stops saving any more data so the download process nevers
ends
(or gets timed out, depending on the application). I first noticed this
as a
problem with Windows Update, specifically the Windows Mail Junk email
filter
wouldn't download. The error report number was 800B0100, this suggested
downloading the CheckSUR tool. I tried to download this tool, but
couldn't
do this due to the problem with downloading described above. The same
problem with downloading files has since appeared with downloading files
from
other sites eg software for a Nokia phone, video and audio files on
YouTube,
BBC etc. Most recently, it has started affecting my Kaspersky AV - the
updates get timed out so the AV is increasingly out of date.

I'm not a very technical person so if replies could be pitched at your
average dumb user I'd be very grateful.

System details:
Dell XPS M1330
BIOS version Dell Inc. A12, 08/07/2008
Vista 32 bit Home Premium, Version 6.0.6001 SP1 (SP2 update failed due to
the downloading problem, but individual updates have been kept up to date
apart from the Windows Mail one)
Kaspersky Internet Security 2009 (Windows Firewall turned off as
recommended
to stop conflicts)
MS Office 2007 Professional (so using Outlook rather than Windows Mail)
Network adapter: Broadcom NetLink Fast Ethernet (type 802.3)
ADSL modem: ASUS AAM6000EV (about 7 or 8 years old) plus a little 8 port
hub, both been working fine forever



I agree with Malke's suggestions. Another option to replacing the
motherboard if the onboard NIC proves to be bad is either an ExpressCard NIC
such as this one
http://www.provantage.com/startech-e...t~7STR90E0.htm ,
or a USB-to-NIC adaptor such as this one
http://www.beachaudio.com/Smc/Smc220...qsl9e306qfhlq3
..
The onboard NIC would have to be disabled in BIOS.

Or you could invest in a wired/wireless hub such as a Netgear WGR614. I have
one, and it works great wired to my desktop PC, and wireless to my notebook.

SC Tom





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Old September 21st 09, 02:03 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
SC Tom
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Posts: 179
Default Bluescreens plus download problems



"Chris" wrote in message
...
I have a couple of problems with Windows Vista Home Premium that have both
been getting worse and more frequent:

* system freezes / crashes - the error reports suggest a problem with
networking hardware, but the drivers seem to be completely up to date.
One
of the "solutions" did make reference to Vista having problems with older
networking hardware, but wasn't clear on how to diagnose this, or tell
which
hardware gives a problem. My ADSL modem is quite old, so may be part of
the
problem - details below.

* file downloads stop part way through - doesn't crash or give an error
message, just stops saving any more data so the download process nevers
ends
(or gets timed out, depending on the application). I first noticed this
as a
problem with Windows Update, specifically the Windows Mail Junk email
filter
wouldn't download. The error report number was 800B0100, this suggested
downloading the CheckSUR tool. I tried to download this tool, but
couldn't
do this due to the problem with downloading described above. The same
problem with downloading files has since appeared with downloading files
from
other sites eg software for a Nokia phone, video and audio files on
YouTube,
BBC etc. Most recently, it has started affecting my Kaspersky AV - the
updates get timed out so the AV is increasingly out of date.

I'm not a very technical person so if replies could be pitched at your
average dumb user I'd be very grateful.

System details:
Dell XPS M1330
BIOS version Dell Inc. A12, 08/07/2008
Vista 32 bit Home Premium, Version 6.0.6001 SP1 (SP2 update failed due to
the downloading problem, but individual updates have been kept up to date
apart from the Windows Mail one)
Kaspersky Internet Security 2009 (Windows Firewall turned off as
recommended
to stop conflicts)
MS Office 2007 Professional (so using Outlook rather than Windows Mail)
Network adapter: Broadcom NetLink Fast Ethernet (type 802.3)
ADSL modem: ASUS AAM6000EV (about 7 or 8 years old) plus a little 8 port
hub, both been working fine forever



I agree with Malke's suggestions. Another option to replacing the
motherboard if the onboard NIC proves to be bad is either an ExpressCard NIC
such as this one
http://www.provantage.com/startech-e...t~7STR90E0.htm ,
or a USB-to-NIC adaptor such as this one
http://www.beachaudio.com/Smc/Smc220...qsl9e306qfhlq3
..
The onboard NIC would have to be disabled in BIOS.

Or you could invest in a wired/wireless hub such as a Netgear WGR614. I have
one, and it works great wired to my desktop PC, and wireless to my notebook.

SC Tom





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Old September 23rd 09, 07:14 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Tae Song
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Default Bluescreens plus download problems

"Chris" wrote in message
...
I have a couple of problems with Windows Vista Home Premium that have both
been getting worse and more frequent:

* system freezes / crashes - the error reports suggest a problem with
networking hardware, but the drivers seem to be completely up to date.
One
of the "solutions" did make reference to Vista having problems with older
networking hardware, but wasn't clear on how to diagnose this, or tell
which
hardware gives a problem. My ADSL modem is quite old, so may be part of
the
problem - details below.

* file downloads stop part way through - doesn't crash or give an error
message, just stops saving any more data so the download process nevers
ends
(or gets timed out, depending on the application). I first noticed this
as a
problem with Windows Update, specifically the Windows Mail Junk email
filter
wouldn't download. The error report number was 800B0100, this suggested
downloading the CheckSUR tool. I tried to download this tool, but
couldn't
do this due to the problem with downloading described above. The same
problem with downloading files has since appeared with downloading files
from
other sites eg software for a Nokia phone, video and audio files on
YouTube,
BBC etc. Most recently, it has started affecting my Kaspersky AV - the
updates get timed out so the AV is increasingly out of date.

I'm not a very technical person so if replies could be pitched at your
average dumb user I'd be very grateful.

System details:
Dell XPS M1330
BIOS version Dell Inc. A12, 08/07/2008
Vista 32 bit Home Premium, Version 6.0.6001 SP1 (SP2 update failed due to
the downloading problem, but individual updates have been kept up to date
apart from the Windows Mail one)
Kaspersky Internet Security 2009 (Windows Firewall turned off as
recommended
to stop conflicts)
MS Office 2007 Professional (so using Outlook rather than Windows Mail)
Network adapter: Broadcom NetLink Fast Ethernet (type 802.3)
ADSL modem: ASUS AAM6000EV (about 7 or 8 years old) plus a little 8 port
hub, both been working fine forever



It might be you are having problems with writing to the disk. Do a
diagnostics on your hard drive.

You might try booting up with the Windows Vista DVD and go to repair system
and navigate to Command Prompt then type CHKDSK C: /R /X /V

/R - Scan for surface defects, run a file integrity check and fix any
problems found.
/X - Explicitly force the hard drive offline for scanning
/V - Verbose output, displays more information on what CHKDSK is doing


If it comes back clean then try running a memory diagnostics, also available
on the Windows Vista DVD.


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Old September 23rd 09, 07:14 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Tae Song
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Posts: 593
Default Bluescreens plus download problems

"Chris" wrote in message
...
I have a couple of problems with Windows Vista Home Premium that have both
been getting worse and more frequent:

* system freezes / crashes - the error reports suggest a problem with
networking hardware, but the drivers seem to be completely up to date.
One
of the "solutions" did make reference to Vista having problems with older
networking hardware, but wasn't clear on how to diagnose this, or tell
which
hardware gives a problem. My ADSL modem is quite old, so may be part of
the
problem - details below.

* file downloads stop part way through - doesn't crash or give an error
message, just stops saving any more data so the download process nevers
ends
(or gets timed out, depending on the application). I first noticed this
as a
problem with Windows Update, specifically the Windows Mail Junk email
filter
wouldn't download. The error report number was 800B0100, this suggested
downloading the CheckSUR tool. I tried to download this tool, but
couldn't
do this due to the problem with downloading described above. The same
problem with downloading files has since appeared with downloading files
from
other sites eg software for a Nokia phone, video and audio files on
YouTube,
BBC etc. Most recently, it has started affecting my Kaspersky AV - the
updates get timed out so the AV is increasingly out of date.

I'm not a very technical person so if replies could be pitched at your
average dumb user I'd be very grateful.

System details:
Dell XPS M1330
BIOS version Dell Inc. A12, 08/07/2008
Vista 32 bit Home Premium, Version 6.0.6001 SP1 (SP2 update failed due to
the downloading problem, but individual updates have been kept up to date
apart from the Windows Mail one)
Kaspersky Internet Security 2009 (Windows Firewall turned off as
recommended
to stop conflicts)
MS Office 2007 Professional (so using Outlook rather than Windows Mail)
Network adapter: Broadcom NetLink Fast Ethernet (type 802.3)
ADSL modem: ASUS AAM6000EV (about 7 or 8 years old) plus a little 8 port
hub, both been working fine forever



It might be you are having problems with writing to the disk. Do a
diagnostics on your hard drive.

You might try booting up with the Windows Vista DVD and go to repair system
and navigate to Command Prompt then type CHKDSK C: /R /X /V

/R - Scan for surface defects, run a file integrity check and fix any
problems found.
/X - Explicitly force the hard drive offline for scanning
/V - Verbose output, displays more information on what CHKDSK is doing


If it comes back clean then try running a memory diagnostics, also available
on the Windows Vista DVD.


 




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