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Slow boot first time in the morning



 
 
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Old September 30th 09, 04:28 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
SC Tom
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Default Slow boot first time in the morning


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John;1148967 Wrote:
"f/fgeorge" wrote:

On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:35:02 -0700, John
John@newsgroup wrote:

My problem is more than just slow boot. It takes about 2 minutes
to
boot to
all my startup programs. However, for the next 10 to 15 minuts the
hard drive
is running continuously. If I try to run another app., e.g.
Outlook,
it will
freeze and the "Not Responding" notation appears at the top of the
screen.
I've tried to nail down what might be hogging the hard drive
(using
reliability and performance monitor) but can't identify any single
program.
I have 50 gigs free space, 2 GB RAM. I defrag once a week and
clean
up temp
files and cashes once a day.
It seems all proposed solutions I've run across lead me to one of
the
registry cleanup programs. I run Reg. Clean & Wise Registry
Cleaner
once a
week.
Real time monitoring by McCafee and Windows Defender.
I have run both AD Aware and Spy Bot frequently.
Any help would be appreciated.
John

In addition to what Ken said try leaving the pc on overnight
tonite
and see how it is in the morning. If it is as fast as it normally
is
then it is probably all that software doing startup scans.
Typically
starting up a pc is the slowest point of using a computer. Seems
like
every anti-spyware, anti-virus, anti-anything wants to run a scan
to
make sure all is okay. Even software programs do a scan to make
sure
that you are using the latest version. The best idea is to only
turn
it on and on once per day or if you can stand the $3.00 per month
just
leave it on and turn the monitor off. Not the screen saver, push
the
power button on the monitor. I do this last part everytime I get
up
from the pc and just turn all that screen-saver stuff off. And no
it
won't hurt your pc, it is electronic and digital, it is designed
to
run 24/7. I do Distributed Computing, do a google search, and
have
pc's that have only been turned off rarely since the day they
were
first turned on, YEARS in some cases!! They work just fine!


f/fgeorge,
Thanks for the suggestions. Last night I put the computer to sleep
rather
than shut down. this morning when I woke it up the hard disk ran for
about 10
minutes and I had trouble opening Outlook.
3 things show up on the Relibility and Performance Monitor.
searchindexer.exe
mmc.exe
mcsvrent.exe
I have no idea whether any or all of these are causing the problem.
John



Type SERVICES into the Start/search and hit Enter. On the Services page
go down to WINDOWS SEARCH, right click on it, go to Properties and set
it to "Disabled" in lieu of "Automatic". Then reboot.
BTW: You must have made a typo with mcsvrent.exe - I never heard of
such a service.


--
whs


I think he meant mcsvrcnt.exe, which is associated with his McAfee.
http://www.processlibrary.com/directory/files/mcsvrcnt/

SC Tom

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Old September 30th 09, 08:09 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
MilesAhead[_4_]
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Default Slow boot first time in the morning


John;1148117 Wrote:
My problem is more than just slow boot. It takes about 2 minutes to boot
to
all my startup programs. However, for the next 10 to 15 minuts the hard
drive
is running continuously. If I try to run another app., e.g. Outlook, it
will
freeze and the "Not Responding" notation appears at the top of the
screen.
I've tried to nail down what might be hogging the hard drive (using
reliability and performance monitor) but can't identify any single
program.
I have 50 gigs free space, 2 GB RAM. I defrag once a week and clean up
temp
files and cashes once a day.
It seems all proposed solutions I've run across lead me to one of the
registry cleanup programs. I run Reg. Clean & Wise Registry Cleaner
once a
week.
Real time monitoring by McCafee and Windows Defender.
I have run both AD Aware and Spy Bot frequently.
Any help would be appreciated.
John


You don't say what machine or OS you have(32 bit 64 bit service pack?)
From what I see though, my first suggestion would be turn all that
antivirus stuff off. If you have Vista 32 bit use Sandboxie instead to
run your browser in a sandbox to avoid infections.

Use "Everything Search" instead of Windows Search. It does not need to
index your HD contents. It hooks into NTFS jounaling to be updated when
the file system contents changes.

The other thing would be go to a Services Tweak site such as this:
'Windows Vista Services Explained'
(http://www.speedyvista.com/services.php)

Be careful disabling services. If you pick the wrong one your machine
might not boot.

Even if you decide you want to run an anti-virus monitor, it's like
total disaster to run more than one in real-time protection or shield
mode. Almost no PC will work well with 2 of those interfering with
every operation.

Another thing you can do is turn on boot logging. Google for
details. It will show what drivers are attempting to load. What slowed
my system down booting was even after I uninstalled the Norton that came
on the machine, it still tried to boot drivers for it. You have to get
a removal tool to get all the crap out of the registry(the dedicated
removal tool for the particular software, not a general registry
cleaner.)

Last thing is, registry cleaners risk disaster while providing very
little if any benefit. If you want to optimize your registry, use
NTREGOPT once or twice a month. It doesn't delete any entries. It just
copies the registry hives to new files and switches to those on next
boot up. I've been using it across 4 or 5 flavors of Windows from NT 4
Server to Windows 7. Never had a problem as long as I rebooted when it
gave the prompt.


--
MilesAhead

"I don't want to belong to any club that would have me as a member."
- Groucho Marx
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Old September 30th 09, 08:09 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
MilesAhead[_4_]
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Default Slow boot first time in the morning


John;1148117 Wrote:
My problem is more than just slow boot. It takes about 2 minutes to boot
to
all my startup programs. However, for the next 10 to 15 minuts the hard
drive
is running continuously. If I try to run another app., e.g. Outlook, it
will
freeze and the "Not Responding" notation appears at the top of the
screen.
I've tried to nail down what might be hogging the hard drive (using
reliability and performance monitor) but can't identify any single
program.
I have 50 gigs free space, 2 GB RAM. I defrag once a week and clean up
temp
files and cashes once a day.
It seems all proposed solutions I've run across lead me to one of the
registry cleanup programs. I run Reg. Clean & Wise Registry Cleaner
once a
week.
Real time monitoring by McCafee and Windows Defender.
I have run both AD Aware and Spy Bot frequently.
Any help would be appreciated.
John


You don't say what machine or OS you have(32 bit 64 bit service pack?)
From what I see though, my first suggestion would be turn all that
antivirus stuff off. If you have Vista 32 bit use Sandboxie instead to
run your browser in a sandbox to avoid infections.

Use "Everything Search" instead of Windows Search. It does not need to
index your HD contents. It hooks into NTFS jounaling to be updated when
the file system contents changes.

The other thing would be go to a Services Tweak site such as this:
'Windows Vista Services Explained'
(http://www.speedyvista.com/services.php)

Be careful disabling services. If you pick the wrong one your machine
might not boot.

Even if you decide you want to run an anti-virus monitor, it's like
total disaster to run more than one in real-time protection or shield
mode. Almost no PC will work well with 2 of those interfering with
every operation.

Another thing you can do is turn on boot logging. Google for
details. It will show what drivers are attempting to load. What slowed
my system down booting was even after I uninstalled the Norton that came
on the machine, it still tried to boot drivers for it. You have to get
a removal tool to get all the crap out of the registry(the dedicated
removal tool for the particular software, not a general registry
cleaner.)

Last thing is, registry cleaners risk disaster while providing very
little if any benefit. If you want to optimize your registry, use
NTREGOPT once or twice a month. It doesn't delete any entries. It just
copies the registry hives to new files and switches to those on next
boot up. I've been using it across 4 or 5 flavors of Windows from NT 4
Server to Windows 7. Never had a problem as long as I rebooted when it
gave the prompt.


--
MilesAhead

"I don't want to belong to any club that would have me as a member."
- Groucho Marx
 




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