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Funny alphabetation in Windows explorer
-- Peter Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged. "chasgl" wrote in message ... Fascinating suggestion. I'm not sure why explorer would use the 8.3 or why switching to alpha sort instead of numerical sort would affect the outcome. But the symptoms sure match. Thanks, Chas "Tae Song" wrote: "chasgl" wrote in message ... My sweety and I take pictures and store them in folders. I label mine like this 2009 09 22. My sweety does 2009-09-22. We figured that way they would appear by date and each of ours would be separate. But the order comes out like this 2009 08 27 Near Ali and Saida's mostly biking 2009 08 28 Saida and Ali return Arc de Triumph and Tour Effel a bunch of other folders 2009-01-04. Dhyana-Terri in town.breakfast 2009-02-27. Party-Selim.Saida,Ali.Dan.Matt . . . 2009-09-14 Lemgo 2009-09-23 Austin Property 2009 08 29 Sacre-coer 2009 08 30. Vaux-Le-Vicomte. Ali+M+C So first are some with 2009space etc then some 2009- etc then some 2009space etc Why would this strange thing happen? Any way to fix it? Thanks, Chas It maybe caused by support for 8dot3 naming convention. 8dot3 Name as the appear in Explorer 10/05/2009 04:51 AM DIR 200908~3 2009 08 27 Near Ali and Saida's mostly biking 10/05/2009 04:51 AM DIR 200908~4 2009 08 28 Saida and Ali return Arc de Triumph and Tour Effel 10/05/2009 04:51 AM DIR 20E603~1 2009 08 29 Sacre-coer 10/05/2009 04:51 AM DIR 200908~1.ALI 2009 08 30. Vaux-Le-Vicomte. Ali+M+C 10/05/2009 04:51 AM DIR 2009-0~1.BRE 2009-01-04. Dhyana-Terri in town.breakfast 10/05/2009 04:51 AM DIR 2009-0~1.MAT 2009-02-27. Party-Selim.Saida,Ali.Dan.Matt 10/05/2009 04:51 AM DIR 2009-0~4 2009-09-14 Lemgo 10/05/2009 04:51 AM DIR 20BB6C~1 2009-09-23 Austin Property 8dot3 naming convention goes back to the days of DOS. 8 letters (filename) dot (separator) 3 letters (file extension). It's there to support old programs that still use the 8dot3 naming convention to find files. For whatever reason Explorer maybe using the 8dot3 naming convention to sort the directories. You can turn it off. How to Disable the 8.3 Name Creation on NTFS Partitions http://support.microsoft.com/kb/121007 1. Start Regedt32.exe and locate the following registry key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\FileSystem 2. Select the NtfsDisable8dot3NameCreation entry. NOTE: By default, the value for this entry is set to 0. 3. On the Edit menu, click DWORD. Type a value of 1 in the Data field. 4. Click OK and then quit Regedt32. 5. Quit Windows NT and turn off your computer. 6. Restart your computer and Windows NT. As the KB notes, this works only for file or directory created after the registry change and reboot. |
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Funny alphabetation in Windows explorer
-- Peter Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged. "chasgl" wrote in message ... Fascinating suggestion. I'm not sure why explorer would use the 8.3 or why switching to alpha sort instead of numerical sort would affect the outcome. But the symptoms sure match. Thanks, Chas "Tae Song" wrote: "chasgl" wrote in message ... My sweety and I take pictures and store them in folders. I label mine like this 2009 09 22. My sweety does 2009-09-22. We figured that way they would appear by date and each of ours would be separate. But the order comes out like this 2009 08 27 Near Ali and Saida's mostly biking 2009 08 28 Saida and Ali return Arc de Triumph and Tour Effel a bunch of other folders 2009-01-04. Dhyana-Terri in town.breakfast 2009-02-27. Party-Selim.Saida,Ali.Dan.Matt . . . 2009-09-14 Lemgo 2009-09-23 Austin Property 2009 08 29 Sacre-coer 2009 08 30. Vaux-Le-Vicomte. Ali+M+C So first are some with 2009space etc then some 2009- etc then some 2009space etc Why would this strange thing happen? Any way to fix it? Thanks, Chas It maybe caused by support for 8dot3 naming convention. 8dot3 Name as the appear in Explorer 10/05/2009 04:51 AM DIR 200908~3 2009 08 27 Near Ali and Saida's mostly biking 10/05/2009 04:51 AM DIR 200908~4 2009 08 28 Saida and Ali return Arc de Triumph and Tour Effel 10/05/2009 04:51 AM DIR 20E603~1 2009 08 29 Sacre-coer 10/05/2009 04:51 AM DIR 200908~1.ALI 2009 08 30. Vaux-Le-Vicomte. Ali+M+C 10/05/2009 04:51 AM DIR 2009-0~1.BRE 2009-01-04. Dhyana-Terri in town.breakfast 10/05/2009 04:51 AM DIR 2009-0~1.MAT 2009-02-27. Party-Selim.Saida,Ali.Dan.Matt 10/05/2009 04:51 AM DIR 2009-0~4 2009-09-14 Lemgo 10/05/2009 04:51 AM DIR 20BB6C~1 2009-09-23 Austin Property 8dot3 naming convention goes back to the days of DOS. 8 letters (filename) dot (separator) 3 letters (file extension). It's there to support old programs that still use the 8dot3 naming convention to find files. For whatever reason Explorer maybe using the 8dot3 naming convention to sort the directories. You can turn it off. How to Disable the 8.3 Name Creation on NTFS Partitions http://support.microsoft.com/kb/121007 1. Start Regedt32.exe and locate the following registry key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\FileSystem 2. Select the NtfsDisable8dot3NameCreation entry. NOTE: By default, the value for this entry is set to 0. 3. On the Edit menu, click DWORD. Type a value of 1 in the Data field. 4. Click OK and then quit Regedt32. 5. Quit Windows NT and turn off your computer. 6. Restart your computer and Windows NT. As the KB notes, this works only for file or directory created after the registry change and reboot. |
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Funny alphabetation in Windows explorer
This algorithm is not 8.3
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/319827 -- Peter Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged. "chasgl" wrote in message ... Fascinating suggestion. I'm not sure why explorer would use the 8.3 or why switching to alpha sort instead of numerical sort would affect the outcome. But the symptoms sure match. Thanks, Chas "Tae Song" wrote: "chasgl" wrote in message ... My sweety and I take pictures and store them in folders. I label mine like this 2009 09 22. My sweety does 2009-09-22. We figured that way they would appear by date and each of ours would be separate. But the order comes out like this 2009 08 27 Near Ali and Saida's mostly biking 2009 08 28 Saida and Ali return Arc de Triumph and Tour Effel a bunch of other folders 2009-01-04. Dhyana-Terri in town.breakfast 2009-02-27. Party-Selim.Saida,Ali.Dan.Matt . . . 2009-09-14 Lemgo 2009-09-23 Austin Property 2009 08 29 Sacre-coer 2009 08 30. Vaux-Le-Vicomte. Ali+M+C So first are some with 2009space etc then some 2009- etc then some 2009space etc Why would this strange thing happen? Any way to fix it? Thanks, Chas It maybe caused by support for 8dot3 naming convention. 8dot3 Name as the appear in Explorer 10/05/2009 04:51 AM DIR 200908~3 2009 08 27 Near Ali and Saida's mostly biking 10/05/2009 04:51 AM DIR 200908~4 2009 08 28 Saida and Ali return Arc de Triumph and Tour Effel 10/05/2009 04:51 AM DIR 20E603~1 2009 08 29 Sacre-coer 10/05/2009 04:51 AM DIR 200908~1.ALI 2009 08 30. Vaux-Le-Vicomte. Ali+M+C 10/05/2009 04:51 AM DIR 2009-0~1.BRE 2009-01-04. Dhyana-Terri in town.breakfast 10/05/2009 04:51 AM DIR 2009-0~1.MAT 2009-02-27. Party-Selim.Saida,Ali.Dan.Matt 10/05/2009 04:51 AM DIR 2009-0~4 2009-09-14 Lemgo 10/05/2009 04:51 AM DIR 20BB6C~1 2009-09-23 Austin Property 8dot3 naming convention goes back to the days of DOS. 8 letters (filename) dot (separator) 3 letters (file extension). It's there to support old programs that still use the 8dot3 naming convention to find files. For whatever reason Explorer maybe using the 8dot3 naming convention to sort the directories. You can turn it off. How to Disable the 8.3 Name Creation on NTFS Partitions http://support.microsoft.com/kb/121007 1. Start Regedt32.exe and locate the following registry key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\FileSystem 2. Select the NtfsDisable8dot3NameCreation entry. NOTE: By default, the value for this entry is set to 0. 3. On the Edit menu, click DWORD. Type a value of 1 in the Data field. 4. Click OK and then quit Regedt32. 5. Quit Windows NT and turn off your computer. 6. Restart your computer and Windows NT. As the KB notes, this works only for file or directory created after the registry change and reboot. |
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Funny alphabetation in Windows explorer
This algorithm is not 8.3
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/319827 -- Peter Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged. "chasgl" wrote in message ... Fascinating suggestion. I'm not sure why explorer would use the 8.3 or why switching to alpha sort instead of numerical sort would affect the outcome. But the symptoms sure match. Thanks, Chas "Tae Song" wrote: "chasgl" wrote in message ... My sweety and I take pictures and store them in folders. I label mine like this 2009 09 22. My sweety does 2009-09-22. We figured that way they would appear by date and each of ours would be separate. But the order comes out like this 2009 08 27 Near Ali and Saida's mostly biking 2009 08 28 Saida and Ali return Arc de Triumph and Tour Effel a bunch of other folders 2009-01-04. Dhyana-Terri in town.breakfast 2009-02-27. Party-Selim.Saida,Ali.Dan.Matt . . . 2009-09-14 Lemgo 2009-09-23 Austin Property 2009 08 29 Sacre-coer 2009 08 30. Vaux-Le-Vicomte. Ali+M+C So first are some with 2009space etc then some 2009- etc then some 2009space etc Why would this strange thing happen? Any way to fix it? Thanks, Chas It maybe caused by support for 8dot3 naming convention. 8dot3 Name as the appear in Explorer 10/05/2009 04:51 AM DIR 200908~3 2009 08 27 Near Ali and Saida's mostly biking 10/05/2009 04:51 AM DIR 200908~4 2009 08 28 Saida and Ali return Arc de Triumph and Tour Effel 10/05/2009 04:51 AM DIR 20E603~1 2009 08 29 Sacre-coer 10/05/2009 04:51 AM DIR 200908~1.ALI 2009 08 30. Vaux-Le-Vicomte. Ali+M+C 10/05/2009 04:51 AM DIR 2009-0~1.BRE 2009-01-04. Dhyana-Terri in town.breakfast 10/05/2009 04:51 AM DIR 2009-0~1.MAT 2009-02-27. Party-Selim.Saida,Ali.Dan.Matt 10/05/2009 04:51 AM DIR 2009-0~4 2009-09-14 Lemgo 10/05/2009 04:51 AM DIR 20BB6C~1 2009-09-23 Austin Property 8dot3 naming convention goes back to the days of DOS. 8 letters (filename) dot (separator) 3 letters (file extension). It's there to support old programs that still use the 8dot3 naming convention to find files. For whatever reason Explorer maybe using the 8dot3 naming convention to sort the directories. You can turn it off. How to Disable the 8.3 Name Creation on NTFS Partitions http://support.microsoft.com/kb/121007 1. Start Regedt32.exe and locate the following registry key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\FileSystem 2. Select the NtfsDisable8dot3NameCreation entry. NOTE: By default, the value for this entry is set to 0. 3. On the Edit menu, click DWORD. Type a value of 1 in the Data field. 4. Click OK and then quit Regedt32. 5. Quit Windows NT and turn off your computer. 6. Restart your computer and Windows NT. As the KB notes, this works only for file or directory created after the registry change and reboot. |
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Funny alphabetation in Windows explorer
But This algorithm is not 8.3
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/319827 -- Does not describe the actual behavior Vista exhibits when "numerical" i.e. Sever 2003 type sorting is selected. "Peter Foldes" wrote: This algorithm is not 8.3 http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/319827 -- |
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Funny alphabetation in Windows explorer
But This algorithm is not 8.3
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/319827 -- Does not describe the actual behavior Vista exhibits when "numerical" i.e. Sever 2003 type sorting is selected. "Peter Foldes" wrote: This algorithm is not 8.3 http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/319827 -- |