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Vista 64 fails to access net share in WXP Pro SP2



 
 
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Old November 3rd 09, 03:19 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Cap Kirk
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Default Vista 64 fails to access net share in WXP Pro SP2

I have a small network with 4 pcs. 1 is Vista 64, two XP Pro and 1 W2K. Peer
to Peer. All machines could see the other machines shares without problem.
The net browser is the W2K machine.

I had to change the chassis of 1 XP Pro box because of heating. everything
was phisically moved to another chassis, no OS change watsoever, nor
component changes. Now, both XPs and the W2K can see shares in each other
normally, as before, and they even can see shares on the Vista box.

But the Vista started behaving in a wierd manner:

Vista to W2K: sees shares normally
Vista to WXP Pro not modified Sees shares normally
Vista to WXP Pro with new chassis: The XP does not recognize the vista User
and Password. I tried as Administrator, as user, changed passwords in both
XP and Vista, created a New user in both machines with and without password,
and still the XP refuses to recognize the Vista credentials.

Any clue will be welcome. I don't know how to trace and record what is
happening, so as to analyze it with more detail.

Thank You

Cap Kirk


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Old November 3rd 09, 08:40 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
smlunatick
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Default Vista 64 fails to access net share in WXP Pro SP2

On Nov 3, 4:19*pm, "Cap Kirk" wrote:
I have a small network with 4 pcs. 1 is Vista 64, two XP Pro and 1 W2K. Peer
to Peer. All machines could see the other machines shares without problem..
The net browser is the W2K machine.

I had to change the chassis of 1 XP Pro box because of heating. everything
was phisically moved to another chassis, no OS change watsoever, nor
component changes. Now, both XPs and the W2K can see shares in each other
normally, as before, and they even can see shares on the Vista box.

But the Vista started behaving in a wierd manner:

Vista to W2K: sees shares normally
Vista to WXP Pro not modified Sees shares normally
Vista to WXP Pro with new chassis: The XP does not recognize the vista User
and Password. I tried as Administrator, as user, changed passwords in both
XP and Vista, created a New user in both machines with and without password,
and still the XP refuses to recognize the Vista credentials.

Any clue will be welcome. I don't know how to trace and record what is
happening, so as to analyze it with more detail.

Thank You

Cap Kirk


Any versions of Windows XP without SP3 installed will not let Vista
see any of the shared folders / printers. Vista requires the XP SP2
have a Link-Layer Topology Discovery (LLTD) Responder.

Check: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120
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Old November 3rd 09, 08:40 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
smlunatick
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Default Vista 64 fails to access net share in WXP Pro SP2

On Nov 3, 4:19*pm, "Cap Kirk" wrote:
I have a small network with 4 pcs. 1 is Vista 64, two XP Pro and 1 W2K. Peer
to Peer. All machines could see the other machines shares without problem..
The net browser is the W2K machine.

I had to change the chassis of 1 XP Pro box because of heating. everything
was phisically moved to another chassis, no OS change watsoever, nor
component changes. Now, both XPs and the W2K can see shares in each other
normally, as before, and they even can see shares on the Vista box.

But the Vista started behaving in a wierd manner:

Vista to W2K: sees shares normally
Vista to WXP Pro not modified Sees shares normally
Vista to WXP Pro with new chassis: The XP does not recognize the vista User
and Password. I tried as Administrator, as user, changed passwords in both
XP and Vista, created a New user in both machines with and without password,
and still the XP refuses to recognize the Vista credentials.

Any clue will be welcome. I don't know how to trace and record what is
happening, so as to analyze it with more detail.

Thank You

Cap Kirk


Any versions of Windows XP without SP3 installed will not let Vista
see any of the shared folders / printers. Vista requires the XP SP2
have a Link-Layer Topology Discovery (LLTD) Responder.

Check: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120
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Old November 3rd 09, 10:36 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Jack [MVP-Networking]
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Default Vista 64 fails to access net share in WXP Pro SP2

Hi
The changes probably changed the IP assignment and the computers' addresses
resolution got "stuck".
Undo and Redo your shares.
Make sure that the Software Firewall on each computer allows free local
traffic. If you use 3rd party Firewall On, Vista/XP Native Firewall should
be Off, and the active Firewall has to adjusted to your Network IP numbers
on what is some time called the Trusted Zone (consult your 3rd Party
Firewall instructions.
General example, http://www.ezlan.net/faq#trusted
Vista File and Printer Sharing-
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx
Windows XP File Sharing -
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;304040
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;304040
Printer Sharing XP -
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...utt_july2.mspx
Windows Native Firewall setting for Sharing XP -
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875357
Windows XP patch for Sharing with Vista (Not need for XP-SP3) -
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120
When done power down every thing and reboot the network.
Jack (MVP-Networking).


"Cap Kirk" wrote in message
...
I have a small network with 4 pcs. 1 is Vista 64, two XP Pro and 1 W2K.
Peer
to Peer. All machines could see the other machines shares without problem.
The net browser is the W2K machine.

I had to change the chassis of 1 XP Pro box because of heating. everything
was phisically moved to another chassis, no OS change watsoever, nor
component changes. Now, both XPs and the W2K can see shares in each other
normally, as before, and they even can see shares on the Vista box.

But the Vista started behaving in a wierd manner:

Vista to W2K: sees shares normally
Vista to WXP Pro not modified Sees shares normally
Vista to WXP Pro with new chassis: The XP does not recognize the vista
User
and Password. I tried as Administrator, as user, changed passwords in both
XP and Vista, created a New user in both machines with and without
password,
and still the XP refuses to recognize the Vista credentials.

Any clue will be welcome. I don't know how to trace and record what is
happening, so as to analyze it with more detail.

Thank You

Cap Kirk



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Old November 3rd 09, 10:36 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Jack [MVP-Networking]
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Posts: 356
Default Vista 64 fails to access net share in WXP Pro SP2

Hi
The changes probably changed the IP assignment and the computers' addresses
resolution got "stuck".
Undo and Redo your shares.
Make sure that the Software Firewall on each computer allows free local
traffic. If you use 3rd party Firewall On, Vista/XP Native Firewall should
be Off, and the active Firewall has to adjusted to your Network IP numbers
on what is some time called the Trusted Zone (consult your 3rd Party
Firewall instructions.
General example, http://www.ezlan.net/faq#trusted
Vista File and Printer Sharing-
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx
Windows XP File Sharing -
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;304040
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;304040
Printer Sharing XP -
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...utt_july2.mspx
Windows Native Firewall setting for Sharing XP -
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875357
Windows XP patch for Sharing with Vista (Not need for XP-SP3) -
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120
When done power down every thing and reboot the network.
Jack (MVP-Networking).


"Cap Kirk" wrote in message
...
I have a small network with 4 pcs. 1 is Vista 64, two XP Pro and 1 W2K.
Peer
to Peer. All machines could see the other machines shares without problem.
The net browser is the W2K machine.

I had to change the chassis of 1 XP Pro box because of heating. everything
was phisically moved to another chassis, no OS change watsoever, nor
component changes. Now, both XPs and the W2K can see shares in each other
normally, as before, and they even can see shares on the Vista box.

But the Vista started behaving in a wierd manner:

Vista to W2K: sees shares normally
Vista to WXP Pro not modified Sees shares normally
Vista to WXP Pro with new chassis: The XP does not recognize the vista
User
and Password. I tried as Administrator, as user, changed passwords in both
XP and Vista, created a New user in both machines with and without
password,
and still the XP refuses to recognize the Vista credentials.

Any clue will be welcome. I don't know how to trace and record what is
happening, so as to analyze it with more detail.

Thank You

Cap Kirk



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Old November 4th 09, 02:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Cap Kirk
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Default Vista 64 fails to access net share in WXP Pro SP2

Hi, Jack. I followed your instructions. The rebellious XP Pro has SP3
installed. The IP adress is iva DHCP from a Linksys router.

I disabled both Firewalls in Vista and XP (native, no third party)

I undid all shares on th XP. Then I powered down the entire network, an
cleaned the DHCP client list from the router.

Then I powered the units in this order: A) W2K (Browser), B) XP PRO, C)
Vista 64.

I created a new user in Vista XP called TEST pass= 111. Then I created the
same user in Vista.

I created an everyone read only share in Xp.

I enabled Security logging in XP

I tried to connect from Vista to XP. Got wrong user or password message in
the vista box.

The security log in Xp is this (Sorry, its a Spanish Xp):

13/02/2009 11:58:42 Security Errores Inicio/cierre de sesión 529 NT
AUTHORITY\SYSTEM CALCULO "Error al iniciar sesión:

Razón: Nombre de usuario desconocido o contraseña incorrecta

Reason: Unknoun user or incorrect password

Nombre de usuario: TEST

Dominio: JuanJose1

Tipo de inicio de sesión: 3

Proceso de inicio de sesión: NtLmSsp

Paquete de autenticación: MICROSOFT_AUTHENTICATION_PACKAGE_V1_0

Nombre de estación de trabajo: JUANJOSE1"

13/02/2009 11:58:42 Security Errores Inicio de sesión de la cuenta 680 NT
AUTHORITY\SYSTEM CALCULO Inicio de sesión intentado por:
MICROSOFT_AUTHENTICATION_PACKAGE_V1_0

Cuenta de inicio de sesión: TEST

Estación de trabajo de origen: JUANJOSE1

Código de error: 0xC000006A

Any clue???

CapKirk

"Jack [MVP-Networking]" escribió en el mensaje
...
Hi
The changes probably changed the IP assignment and the computers'

addresses
resolution got "stuck".
Undo and Redo your shares.
Make sure that the Software Firewall on each computer allows free local
traffic. If you use 3rd party Firewall On, Vista/XP Native Firewall should
be Off, and the active Firewall has to adjusted to your Network IP numbers
on what is some time called the Trusted Zone (consult your 3rd Party
Firewall instructions.
General example, http://www.ezlan.net/faq#trusted
Vista File and Printer Sharing-
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx
Windows XP File Sharing -
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;304040
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;304040
Printer Sharing XP -

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...utt_july2.mspx
Windows Native Firewall setting for Sharing XP -
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875357
Windows XP patch for Sharing with Vista (Not need for XP-SP3) -
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120
When done power down every thing and reboot the network.
Jack (MVP-Networking).


"Cap Kirk" wrote in message
...
I have a small network with 4 pcs. 1 is Vista 64, two XP Pro and 1 W2K.
Peer
to Peer. All machines could see the other machines shares without

problem.
The net browser is the W2K machine.

I had to change the chassis of 1 XP Pro box because of heating.

everything
was phisically moved to another chassis, no OS change watsoever, nor
component changes. Now, both XPs and the W2K can see shares in each

other
normally, as before, and they even can see shares on the Vista box.

But the Vista started behaving in a wierd manner:

Vista to W2K: sees shares normally
Vista to WXP Pro not modified Sees shares normally
Vista to WXP Pro with new chassis: The XP does not recognize the vista
User
and Password. I tried as Administrator, as user, changed passwords in

both
XP and Vista, created a New user in both machines with and without
password,
and still the XP refuses to recognize the Vista credentials.

Any clue will be welcome. I don't know how to trace and record what is
happening, so as to analyze it with more detail.

Thank You

Cap Kirk





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Old November 4th 09, 02:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Cap Kirk
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Default Vista 64 fails to access net share in WXP Pro SP2


Hi, Jack. I followed your instructions. The rebellious XP Pro has SP3
installed. The IP adress is iva DHCP from a Linksys router.

I disabled both Firewalls in Vista and XP (native, no third party)

I undid all shares on th XP. Then I powered down the entire network, an
cleaned the DHCP client list from the router.

Then I powered the units in this order: A) W2K (Browser), B) XP PRO, C)
Vista 64.

I created a new user in Vista XP called TEST pass= 111. Then I created the
same user in Vista.

I created an everyone read only share in Xp.

I enabled Security logging in XP

I tried to connect from Vista to XP. Got wrong user or password message in
the vista box.

The security log in Xp is this (Sorry, its a Spanish Xp):

13/02/2009 11:58:42 Security Errores Inicio/cierre de sesión 529 NT
AUTHORITY\SYSTEM CALCULO "Error al iniciar sesión:

Razón: Nombre de usuario desconocido o contraseña incorrecta

Reason: Unknoun user or incorrect password

Nombre de usuario: TEST

Dominio: JuanJose1

Tipo de inicio de sesión: 3

Proceso de inicio de sesión: NtLmSsp

Paquete de autenticación: MICROSOFT_AUTHENTICATION_PACKAGE_V1_0

Nombre de estación de trabajo: JUANJOSE1"

13/02/2009 11:58:42 Security Errores Inicio de sesión de la cuenta 680 NT
AUTHORITY\SYSTEM CALCULO Inicio de sesión intentado por:
MICROSOFT_AUTHENTICATION_PACKAGE_V1_0

Cuenta de inicio de sesión: TEST

Estación de trabajo de origen: JUANJOSE1

Código de error: 0xC000006A

Any clue???

CapKirk

"Jack [MVP-Networking]" escribió en el mensaje
...
Hi
The changes probably changed the IP assignment and the computers'

addresses
resolution got "stuck".
Undo and Redo your shares.
Make sure that the Software Firewall on each computer allows free local
traffic. If you use 3rd party Firewall On, Vista/XP Native Firewall should
be Off, and the active Firewall has to adjusted to your Network IP numbers
on what is some time called the Trusted Zone (consult your 3rd Party
Firewall instructions.
General example, http://www.ezlan.net/faq#trusted
Vista File and Printer Sharing-
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx
Windows XP File Sharing -
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;304040
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;304040
Printer Sharing XP -

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...utt_july2.mspx
Windows Native Firewall setting for Sharing XP -
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875357
Windows XP patch for Sharing with Vista (Not need for XP-SP3) -
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120
When done power down every thing and reboot the network.
Jack (MVP-Networking).


"Cap Kirk" wrote in message
...
I have a small network with 4 pcs. 1 is Vista 64, two XP Pro and 1 W2K.
Peer
to Peer. All machines could see the other machines shares without

problem.
The net browser is the W2K machine.

I had to change the chassis of 1 XP Pro box because of heating.

everything
was phisically moved to another chassis, no OS change watsoever, nor
component changes. Now, both XPs and the W2K can see shares in each

other
normally, as before, and they even can see shares on the Vista box.

But the Vista started behaving in a wierd manner:

Vista to W2K: sees shares normally
Vista to WXP Pro not modified Sees shares normally
Vista to WXP Pro with new chassis: The XP does not recognize the vista
User
and Password. I tried as Administrator, as user, changed passwords in

both
XP and Vista, created a New user in both machines with and without
password,
and still the XP refuses to recognize the Vista credentials.

Any clue will be welcome. I don't know how to trace and record what is
happening, so as to analyze it with more detail.

Thank You

Cap Kirk





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Old November 9th 09, 03:03 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
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Default Vista 64 fails to access net share in WXP Pro SP2


Vista to W2K: sees shares normally
Vista to WXP Pro not modified Sees shares normally
Vista to WXP Pro with new chassis: The XP does not recognize the vista
User
and Password. I tried as Administrator, as user, changed passwords in both
XP and Vista, created a New user in both machines with and without
password,
and still the XP refuses to recognize the Vista credentials.

Any clue will be welcome. I don't know how to trace and record what is
happening, so as to analyze it with more detail.

Thank You

Cap Kirk


Any versions of Windows XP without SP3 installed will not let Vista
see any of the shared folders / printers. Vista requires the XP SP2
have a Link-Layer Topology Discovery (LLTD) Responder.

Check: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120
--

Both of your statements are incorrect. XP does not require SP3 for Vista to
see shares, not is the LLTD Responder required. The KB you cite involves
the need for LLTD to populate the network map facility in Vista. It's good
of you to want to help others, but you might want to use these news groups
as a learning tool first.

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Old November 9th 09, 03:03 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
GTS
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Default Vista 64 fails to access net share in WXP Pro SP2



Vista to W2K: sees shares normally
Vista to WXP Pro not modified Sees shares normally
Vista to WXP Pro with new chassis: The XP does not recognize the vista
User
and Password. I tried as Administrator, as user, changed passwords in both
XP and Vista, created a New user in both machines with and without
password,
and still the XP refuses to recognize the Vista credentials.

Any clue will be welcome. I don't know how to trace and record what is
happening, so as to analyze it with more detail.

Thank You

Cap Kirk


Any versions of Windows XP without SP3 installed will not let Vista
see any of the shared folders / printers. Vista requires the XP SP2
have a Link-Layer Topology Discovery (LLTD) Responder.

Check: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120
--

Both of your statements are incorrect. XP does not require SP3 for Vista to
see shares, not is the LLTD Responder required. The KB you cite involves
the need for LLTD to populate the network map facility in Vista. It's good
of you to want to help others, but you might want to use these news groups
as a learning tool first.

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Old November 9th 09, 03:06 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
GTS
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Posts: 405
Default Vista 64 fails to access net share in WXP Pro SP2



Vista to W2K: sees shares normally
Vista to WXP Pro not modified Sees shares normally
Vista to WXP Pro with new chassis: The XP does not recognize the vista
User
and Password. I tried as Administrator, as user, changed passwords in

both
XP and Vista, created a New user in both machines with and without
password,
and still the XP refuses to recognize the Vista credentials.

Any clue will be welcome. I don't know how to trace and record what is
happening, so as to analyze it with more detail.

Thank You

Cap Kirk


If you open an elevated command prompt on the Vista PC and try a net use
command to access the XP share, what error message (if any) occurs?

(net use \\XPNETNAME\Sharename /USER:username password)

 




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