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Can't delete file in hidden folder even after changing owner
I restored my vista OS using a system image utility provided by Alienware.
It created a backup folder on the c drive with all the old files in it, including user profiles. I changed the owner of all files and folders back to my account and tried to delete it, but got the UAC messages that I need to allow administrator rights to do so. After clicking yes, I got a message that permission was denied with the only options of "Try Again" or "Cancel". After making visible all hidden files and folders, I was able to drill down to the one file I could not delete. I've used the "take ownership" steps in Vista explorer properties, and also the "takeown" dos commands, which report success that the Administrators group or my account which belongs to the administrators group, is the owner of the file, and that I have full control of it. Even so, I cannot delete this file. In DOS, I get access denied. In Explorer, I get the "you need permission to perform this action" message, with "try again" or "cancel", and it shows that my account (or administrators group, doing it that way) is the owner. It's just this one file. I was able to delete all other files and folders around this file, but just not this one. I wonder if the folder path is so long or so nested that UAC fails to figure it out? It was in users\my profile\appdata\roaming\etc. Or is the file corrupt? The file is a tempory file created by one of those biometric devices when logged on with your fingerprint, and is supposed to disappear when you log off, but it seems to have remained there because of a hard boot. Is there a utility I can use that can nuke this one lone file? thanks |
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Can't delete file in hidden folder even after changing owner
Petrarch wrote:
I restored my vista OS using a system image utility provided by Alienware. It created a backup folder on the c drive with all the old files in it, including user profiles. I changed the owner of all files and folders back to my account and tried to delete it, but got the UAC messages that I need to allow administrator rights to do so. After clicking yes, I got a message that permission was denied with the only options of "Try Again" or "Cancel". After making visible all hidden files and folders, I was able to drill down to the one file I could not delete. I've used the "take ownership" steps in Vista explorer properties, and also the "takeown" dos commands, which report success that the Administrators group or my account which belongs to the administrators group, is the owner of the file, and that I have full control of it. Even so, I cannot delete this file. In DOS, I get access denied. In Explorer, I get the "you need permission to perform this action" message, with "try again" or "cancel", and it shows that my account (or administrators group, doing it that way) is the owner. It's just this one file. I was able to delete all other files and folders around this file, but just not this one. I wonder if the folder path is so long or so nested that UAC fails to figure it out? It was in users\my profile\appdata\roaming\etc. Or is the file corrupt? The file is a tempory file created by one of those biometric devices when logged on with your fingerprint, and is supposed to disappear when you log off, but it seems to have remained there because of a hard boot. Is there a utility I can use that can nuke this one lone file? You can use the full rights admin account, since the one Vista gives you out of the box is not a full rights admin account. http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windo...windows-vista/ |
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Can't delete file in hidden folder even after changing owner
Petrarch wrote: I restored my vista OS using a system image utility provided by Alienware. It created a backup folder on the c drive with all the old files in it, including user profiles. I changed the owner of all files and folders back to my account and tried to delete it, but got the UAC messages that I need to allow administrator rights to do so. After clicking yes, I got a message that permission was denied with the only options of "Try Again" or "Cancel". After making visible all hidden files and folders, I was able to drill down to the one file I could not delete. I've used the "take ownership" steps in Vista explorer properties, and also the "takeown" dos commands, which report success that the Administrators group or my account which belongs to the administrators group, is the owner of the file, and that I have full control of it. Even so, I cannot delete this file. In DOS, I get access denied. In Explorer, I get the "you need permission to perform this action" message, with "try again" or "cancel", and it shows that my account (or administrators group, doing it that way) is the owner. It's just this one file. I was able to delete all other files and folders around this file, but just not this one. I wonder if the folder path is so long or so nested that UAC fails to figure it out? It was in users\my profile\appdata\roaming\etc. Or is the file corrupt? The file is a tempory file created by one of those biometric devices when logged on with your fingerprint, and is supposed to disappear when you log off, but it seems to have remained there because of a hard boot. Is there a utility I can use that can nuke this one lone file? You can use the full rights admin account, since the one Vista gives you out of the box is not a full rights admin account. http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windo...windows-vista/ |
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Can't delete file in hidden folder even after changing owner
"Mr. Arnold" wrote: You can use the full rights admin account, since the one Vista gives you out of the box is not a full rights admin account. http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windo...windows-vista/ Yes, tried that, too. I get the same behavior, regardless whether I'm logged in under my profile or the enabled administrator account. |
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Can't delete file in hidden folder even after changing owner
"Mr. Arnold" wrote: You can use the full rights admin account, since the one Vista gives you out of the box is not a full rights admin account. http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windo...windows-vista/ Yes, tried that, too. I get the same behavior, regardless whether I'm logged in under my profile or the enabled administrator account. |
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Can't delete file in hidden folder even after changing owner
Hello Petrarch, Did you also "allow" your user account "Full Control" in the permission for the file. You can look at step 18 in Method Two of the tutorial below for how if needed. You might also try doing this in Safe Mode. http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/67...ship-file.html Hope this helps, Shawn Petrarch;1189517 Wrote: I restored my vista OS using a system image utility provided by Alienware. It created a backup folder on the c drive with all the old files in it, including user profiles. I changed the owner of all files and folders back to my account and tried to delete it, but got the UAC messages that I need to allow administrator rights to do so. After clicking yes, I got a message that permission was denied with the only options of "Try Again" or "Cancel". After making visible all hidden files and folders, I was able to drill down to the one file I could not delete. I've used the "take ownership" steps in Vista explorer properties, and also the "takeown" dos commands, which report success that the Administrators group or my account which belongs to the administrators group, is the owner of the file, and that I have full control of it. Even so, I cannot delete this file. In DOS, I get access denied. In Explorer, I get the "you need permission to perform this action" message, with "try again" or "cancel", and it shows that my account (or administrators group, doing it that way) is the owner. It's just this one file. I was able to delete all other files and folders around this file, but just not this one. I wonder if the folder path is so long or so nested that UAC fails to figure it out? It was in users\my profile\appdata\roaming\etc. Or is the file corrupt? The file is a tempory file created by one of those biometric devices when logged on with your fingerprint, and is supposed to disappear when you log off, but it seems to have remained there because of a hard boot. Is there a utility I can use that can nuke this one lone file? thanks -- Brink '*MS MVP - Windows Desktop Experience*' (https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...5-AD617AF3D511) *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask them.* '*Windows 7 Forums*' (http://www.sevenforums.com/) '*Windows Vista Forums*' (http://www.vistax64.com/) *Please post feedback to help others.* |
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Can't delete file in hidden folder even after changing owner
Hello Petrarch, Did you also "allow" your user account "Full Control" in the permission for the file. You can look at step 18 in Method Two of the tutorial below for how if needed. You might also try doing this in Safe Mode. http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/67...ship-file.html Hope this helps, Shawn Petrarch;1189517 Wrote: I restored my vista OS using a system image utility provided by Alienware. It created a backup folder on the c drive with all the old files in it, including user profiles. I changed the owner of all files and folders back to my account and tried to delete it, but got the UAC messages that I need to allow administrator rights to do so. After clicking yes, I got a message that permission was denied with the only options of "Try Again" or "Cancel". After making visible all hidden files and folders, I was able to drill down to the one file I could not delete. I've used the "take ownership" steps in Vista explorer properties, and also the "takeown" dos commands, which report success that the Administrators group or my account which belongs to the administrators group, is the owner of the file, and that I have full control of it. Even so, I cannot delete this file. In DOS, I get access denied. In Explorer, I get the "you need permission to perform this action" message, with "try again" or "cancel", and it shows that my account (or administrators group, doing it that way) is the owner. It's just this one file. I was able to delete all other files and folders around this file, but just not this one. I wonder if the folder path is so long or so nested that UAC fails to figure it out? It was in users\my profile\appdata\roaming\etc. Or is the file corrupt? The file is a tempory file created by one of those biometric devices when logged on with your fingerprint, and is supposed to disappear when you log off, but it seems to have remained there because of a hard boot. Is there a utility I can use that can nuke this one lone file? thanks -- Brink '*MS MVP - Windows Desktop Experience*' (https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...5-AD617AF3D511) *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask them.* '*Windows 7 Forums*' (http://www.sevenforums.com/) '*Windows Vista Forums*' (http://www.vistax64.com/) *Please post feedback to help others.* |
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Can't delete file in hidden folder even after changing owner
"Petrarch" wrote in message
... I restored my vista OS using a system image utility provided by Alienware. It created a backup folder on the c drive with all the old files in it, including user profiles. I changed the owner of all files and folders back to my account and tried to delete it, but got the UAC messages that I need to allow administrator rights to do so. After clicking yes, I got a message that permission was denied with the only options of "Try Again" or "Cancel". After making visible all hidden files and folders, I was able to drill down to the one file I could not delete. I've used the "take ownership" steps in Vista explorer properties, and also the "takeown" dos commands, which report success that the Administrators group or my account which belongs to the administrators group, is the owner of the file, and that I have full control of it. Even so, I cannot delete this file. In DOS, I get access denied. In Explorer, I get the "you need permission to perform this action" message, with "try again" or "cancel", and it shows that my account (or administrators group, doing it that way) is the owner. It's just this one file. I was able to delete all other files and folders around this file, but just not this one. I wonder if the folder path is so long or so nested that UAC fails to figure it out? It was in users\my profile\appdata\roaming\etc. Or is the file corrupt? The file is a tempory file created by one of those biometric devices when logged on with your fingerprint, and is supposed to disappear when you log off, but it seems to have remained there because of a hard boot. Is there a utility I can use that can nuke this one lone file? You might want to investigate deleting the file using another OS (Linux). Sometimes a file path or name contains illegal characters as far as Windows is concerned, and Linux (or another OS) will have a different set of reserved words or illegal characters. The biometric device may create a file with a "bad" name for Windows while accessing the NTFS outside of Windows. |
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Can't delete file in hidden folder even after changing owner
"Petrarch" wrote in message
... I restored my vista OS using a system image utility provided by Alienware. It created a backup folder on the c drive with all the old files in it, including user profiles. I changed the owner of all files and folders back to my account and tried to delete it, but got the UAC messages that I need to allow administrator rights to do so. After clicking yes, I got a message that permission was denied with the only options of "Try Again" or "Cancel". After making visible all hidden files and folders, I was able to drill down to the one file I could not delete. I've used the "take ownership" steps in Vista explorer properties, and also the "takeown" dos commands, which report success that the Administrators group or my account which belongs to the administrators group, is the owner of the file, and that I have full control of it. Even so, I cannot delete this file. In DOS, I get access denied. In Explorer, I get the "you need permission to perform this action" message, with "try again" or "cancel", and it shows that my account (or administrators group, doing it that way) is the owner. It's just this one file. I was able to delete all other files and folders around this file, but just not this one. I wonder if the folder path is so long or so nested that UAC fails to figure it out? It was in users\my profile\appdata\roaming\etc. Or is the file corrupt? The file is a tempory file created by one of those biometric devices when logged on with your fingerprint, and is supposed to disappear when you log off, but it seems to have remained there because of a hard boot. Is there a utility I can use that can nuke this one lone file? You might want to investigate deleting the file using another OS (Linux). Sometimes a file path or name contains illegal characters as far as Windows is concerned, and Linux (or another OS) will have a different set of reserved words or illegal characters. The biometric device may create a file with a "bad" name for Windows while accessing the NTFS outside of Windows. |
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Can't delete file in hidden folder even after changing owner
Petrarch wrote:
"Mr. Arnold" wrote: You can use the full rights admin account, since the one Vista gives you out of the box is not a full rights admin account. http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windo...windows-vista/ Yes, tried that, too. I get the same behavior, regardless whether I'm logged in under my profile or the enabled administrator account. Did you try going into Safemode to delete the file? |
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