Hello Mike,

Windows Defender detects and removes known spyware ONLY.

If you are running Microsoft Security Essentials, you do not need to run
Windows Defender.

Microsoft Security Essentials is designed to disable Windows Defender in
order to manage the PC’s real-time protection, including anti-virus,
rootkits, Trojans and spyware.
-=-

"Michael Ober" wrote:

Actually the two work together.

Mike.

"DL" wrote in message
...
Defender has been replaced by MS Security Essentials

"Tony Linguini" wrote in message
...
Thank you, tried that, download said " incorrect operating system" or
some such which loosely translated meant that Defender is built into
Vista.
Tony

"KristleBawl" wrote in message
...
Tony Linguini expressed an opinion:
My granddaughter's laptop got the eco (green) antivirus extortionware,
and I manually removed it. It somehow removed the core files from
Defender, and now it won't start or run. Suggestions? (besides a format
please)
Tony

The first step is to try to reinstall Defender.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...r/default.mspx

These programs remove the rogues for you, and they are easy to update,
just like an anti virus program. I have the free versions installed and
use them regularly.

Ad-Aware
http://www.lavasoft.com/?domain=lava...aware_free.php

Malwarebytes
http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam.php

SuperAntiSpyware
http://www.superantispyware.com/superantispyware.html

--
KristleBawl
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.

Hello Tony,

Consider going to the secu�ity portal

http://www.microsoft.com/security/portal/

and downloading the 32-bit definitions for Windows Defender to the desktop,
then
*right* click mpas-fe.exe and choose 'Run as
administrator'
to apply.


I hope this post is helpful.

Let us know how it works ºut.

Good luck


Ǝиçεl
-=-

"Tony Linguini" wrote:

BTDTGTTS
The files are actually GONE from program files/windows defender. It will not
start manually or automagically.
I believe the extortionware did that so defender could not remove it.
This is a Dell laptop, no vista dvd included, just a stock recovery image,
and all of my dvds here are 64bit. Lappie has 32.
Thanks, Tony

"KristleBawl" wrote in message
...
Tony Linguini expressed an opinion:
Thank you, tried that, download said " incorrect operating system" or
some such which loosely translated meant that Defender is built into
Vista.
Tony

After further research, try this:

You need to go to "services.msc". Type that in from Start Run and hit
enter. Scroll down the list to the Windows Defender service, right click
on it and select properties. In there change the settings for it to start
automatically. You could also manually start the service at the same time.
That should fix the error.

If that doesn't work, you can try a System Restore.

--
KristleBawl
At this point, chocolate is a viable alternative.
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.

Hello Tony,

Consider going to the secu�ity portal

http://www.microsoft.com/security/portal/

and downloading the 32-bit definitions for Windows Defender to the desktop,
then
*right* click mpas-fe.exe and choose 'Run as
administrator'
to apply.


I hope this post is helpful.

Let us know how it works ºut.

Good luck


Ǝиçεl
-=-

"Tony Linguini" wrote:

BTDTGTTS
The files are actually GONE from program files/windows defender. It will not
start manually or automagically.
I believe the extortionware did that so defender could not remove it.
This is a Dell laptop, no vista dvd included, just a stock recovery image,
and all of my dvds here are 64bit. Lappie has 32.
Thanks, Tony

"KristleBawl" wrote in message
...
Tony Linguini expressed an opinion:
Thank you, tried that, download said " incorrect operating system" or
some such which loosely translated meant that Defender is built into
Vista.
Tony

After further research, try this:

You need to go to "services.msc". Type that in from Start Run and hit
enter. Scroll down the list to the Windows Defender service, right click
on it and select properties. In there change the settings for it to start
automatically. You could also manually start the service at the same time.
That should fix the error.

If that doesn't work, you can try a System Restore.

--
KristleBawl
At this point, chocolate is a viable alternative.
Taglines by http://tagzilla.mozdev.org

.

It ran, but there still is no defender.
Tony

"Ǝиçεl" wrote in message
...
Hello Tony,

Consider going to the secu�ity portal

http://www.microsoft.com/security/portal/

and downloading the 32-bit definitions for Windows Defender to the
desktop,
then
*right* click mpas-fe.exe and choose 'Run as
administrator'
to apply.


I hope this post is helpful.

Let us know how it works ºut.

Good luck


Ǝиçεl
-=-

"Tony Linguini" wrote:

BTDTGTTS
The files are actually GONE from program files/windows defender. It will
not
start manually or automagically.
I believe the extortionware did that so defender could not remove it.
This is a Dell laptop, no vista dvd included, just a stock recovery
image,
and all of my dvds here are 64bit. Lappie has 32.
Thanks, Tony

"KristleBawl" wrote in message
...
Tony Linguini expressed an opinion:
Thank you, tried that, download said " incorrect operating system" or
some such which loosely translated meant that Defender is built into
Vista.
Tony

After further research, try this:

You need to go to "services.msc". Type that in from Start Run and hit
enter. Scroll down the list to the Windows Defender service, right
click
on it and select properties. In there change the settings for it to
start
automatically. You could also manually start the service at the same
time.
That should fix the error.

If that doesn't work, you can try a System Restore.

--
KristleBawl
At this point, chocolate is a viable alternative.
Taglines by http://tagzilla.mozdev.org

.

It ran, but there still is no defender.
Tony

"Ǝиçεl" wrote in message
...
Hello Tony,

Consider going to the secu�ity portal

http://www.microsoft.com/security/portal/

and downloading the 32-bit definitions for Windows Defender to the
desktop,
then
*right* click mpas-fe.exe and choose 'Run as
administrator'
to apply.


I hope this post is helpful.

Let us know how it works ºut.

Good luck


Ǝиçεl
-=-

"Tony Linguini" wrote:

BTDTGTTS
The files are actually GONE from program files/windows defender. It will
not
start manually or automagically.
I believe the extortionware did that so defender could not remove it.
This is a Dell laptop, no vista dvd included, just a stock recovery
image,
and all of my dvds here are 64bit. Lappie has 32.
Thanks, Tony

"KristleBawl" wrote in message
...
Tony Linguini expressed an opinion:
Thank you, tried that, download said " incorrect operating system" or
some such which loosely translated meant that Defender is built into
Vista.
Tony

After further research, try this:

You need to go to "services.msc". Type that in from Start Run and hit
enter. Scroll down the list to the Windows Defender service, right
click
on it and select properties. In there change the settings for it to
start
automatically. You could also manually start the service at the same
time.
That should fix the error.

If that doesn't work, you can try a System Restore.

--
KristleBawl
At this point, chocolate is a viable alternative.
Taglines by http://tagzilla.mozdev.org

.

On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:37:42 -0800
"Tony Linguini" wrote:


My granddaughter's laptop got the eco (green) antivirus extortionware,
and I manually removed it. It somehow removed the core files from
Defender, and now it won't start or run. Suggestions? (besides a format
please) Tony



Now just install Microsoft Security Essentials its designed to disable
Windows Defender anyway and provides real time protection for anti-virus,
rootkits, trojans, spyware.

--
Patrick in IL.

On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:37:42 -0800
"Tony Linguini" wrote:


My granddaughter's laptop got the eco (green) antivirus extortionware,
and I manually removed it. It somehow removed the core files from
Defender, and now it won't start or run. Suggestions? (besides a format
please) Tony



Now just install Microsoft Security Essentials its designed to disable
Windows Defender anyway and provides real time protection for anti-virus,
rootkits, trojans, spyware.

--
Patrick in IL.

So��y to hear that, but unfortunately
I am out of answers. Sorry I couldn't help

Tony, as well as FromTheRafters suggestion

Reinstall Vista
-=-


"Tony Linguini" wrote:

It ran, but there still is no defender.
Tony

"Ǝиçεl" wrote in message
...
Hello Tony,

Consider going to the secu�ity portal

http://www.microsoft.com/security/portal/

and downloading the 32-bit definitions for Windows Defender to the
desktop,
then
*right* click mpas-fe.exe and choose 'Run as
administrator'
to apply.


I hope this post is helpful.

Let us know how it works ºut.

Good luck


Ǝиçεl
-=-

"Tony Linguini" wrote:

BTDTGTTS
The files are actually GONE from program files/windows defender. It will
not
start manually or automagically.
I believe the extortionware did that so defender could not remove it.
This is a Dell laptop, no vista dvd included, just a stock recovery
image,
and all of my dvds here are 64bit. Lappie has 32.
Thanks, Tony

"KristleBawl" wrote in message
...
Tony Linguini expressed an opinion:
Thank you, tried that, download said " incorrect operating system" or
some such which loosely translated meant that Defender is built into
Vista.
Tony

After further research, try this:

You need to go to "services.msc". Type that in from Start Run and hit
enter. Scroll down the list to the Windows Defender service, right
click
on it and select properties. In there change the settings for it to
start
automatically. You could also manually start the service at the same
time.
That should fix the error.

If that doesn't work, you can try a System Restore.

--
KristleBawl
At this point, chocolate is a viable alternative.
Taglines by http://tagzilla.mozdev.org

.

So��y to hear that, but unfortunately
I am out of answers. Sorry I couldn't help

Tony, as well as FromTheRafters suggestion

Reinstall Vista
-=-


"Tony Linguini" wrote:

It ran, but there still is no defender.
Tony

"Ǝиçεl" wrote in message
...
Hello Tony,

Consider going to the secu�ity portal

http://www.microsoft.com/security/portal/

and downloading the 32-bit definitions for Windows Defender to the
desktop,
then
*right* click mpas-fe.exe and choose 'Run as
administrator'
to apply.


I hope this post is helpful.

Let us know how it works ºut.

Good luck


Ǝиçεl
-=-

"Tony Linguini" wrote:

BTDTGTTS
The files are actually GONE from program files/windows defender. It will
not
start manually or automagically.
I believe the extortionware did that so defender could not remove it.
This is a Dell laptop, no vista dvd included, just a stock recovery
image,
and all of my dvds here are 64bit. Lappie has 32.
Thanks, Tony

"KristleBawl" wrote in message
...
Tony Linguini expressed an opinion:
Thank you, tried that, download said " incorrect operating system" or
some such which loosely translated meant that Defender is built into
Vista.
Tony

After further research, try this:

You need to go to "services.msc". Type that in from Start Run and hit
enter. Scroll down the list to the Windows Defender service, right
click
on it and select properties. In there change the settings for it to
start
automatically. You could also manually start the service at the same
time.
That should fix the error.

If that doesn't work, you can try a System Restore.

--
KristleBawl
At this point, chocolate is a viable alternative.
Taglines by http://tagzilla.mozdev.org

.

That worked fine. I was misinformed about the relationship between defender
and MSE.
I actually run MSE on my Windows 7 machine.
Thanks for everyone's input.
Tony

"Patrick Phillips" wrote in message
news:20091130202206.15e2021a@spooker...
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:37:42 -0800
"Tony Linguini" wrote:


My granddaughter's laptop got the eco (green) antivirus extortionware,
and I manually removed it. It somehow removed the core files from
Defender, and now it won't start or run. Suggestions? (besides a format
please) Tony



Now just install Microsoft Security Essentials its designed to disable
Windows Defender anyway and provides real time protection for anti-virus,
rootkits, trojans, spyware.

--
Patrick in IL.