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  #41 (permalink)  
Old February 20th 10, 05:53 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices,microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup
walter deodiaus
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Default force install of driver on Vista

I went out and bought a SB5101 today, which has the same issues! Taking it
back to BestBuy!!

"walter deodiaus" wrote in message
...
In
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms790225.aspx
it says that it needs the NTamd64
I know MS had problems with device drives which were not compatible, so
did MS create any new indications for SP2 to prevent drivers which were
not tested for installation?

"walter deodiaus" wrote in message
...
I am going to try installing the Motorola SB4200 USB modem from
http://broadband.motorola.com/consum...tinuedProducts
http://broadband.motorola.com/consum...-utility-b.exe
When installing it from the Vista prompt to update the unknown driver, I
get an error saying that is is unsupported
I tried installing it as a legacy driver but get an error that the inf is
not supported
The motorola web site says to install it anyway, but that fails.
I copied the *.sys files to c:\windows\system32
Is there a way to force the installation of the files?
How can I modify the inf file to make Vista sp2 accept it?






  #42 (permalink)  
Old February 20th 10, 10:16 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
Barb Bowman
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Default force install of driver on Vista

cable modem--router--computer

The cable modem should be the edge device. connect the WAN port of the router
via Ethernet to the cable model. connect the Computer via Ethernet to one of the
LAN ports on the router.

On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 23:51:57 -0600, "walter deodiaus"
wrote:

The Ethernet connection is being used by the Broadband VOIP/wireless router

"Barb Bowman" wrote in message
.. .
use the Ethernet connection instead of USB.

On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 22:21:19 -0600, "walter deodiaus"
wrote:

I am going to try installing the Motorola SB4200 USB modem from
http://broadband.motorola.com/consum...tinuedProducts
http://broadband.motorola.com/consum...-utility-b.exe
When installing it from the Vista prompt to update the unknown driver, I
get
an error saying that is is unsupported
I tried installing it as a legacy driver but get an error that the inf is
not supported
The motorola web site says to install it anyway, but that fails.
I copied the *.sys files to c:\windows\system32
Is there a way to force the installation of the files?
How can I modify the inf file to make Vista sp2 accept it?

Barb Bowman
MS-MVP
http://www.digitalmediaphile.com
http://digitalmediaphile.wordpress.com


Barb Bowman
MS-MVP
http://www.digitalmediaphile.com
http://digitalmediaphile.wordpress.com
  #43 (permalink)  
Old February 20th 10, 10:16 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
Barb Bowman
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Posts: 1,371
Default force install of driver on Vista


cable modem--router--computer

The cable modem should be the edge device. connect the WAN port of the router
via Ethernet to the cable model. connect the Computer via Ethernet to one of the
LAN ports on the router.

On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 23:51:57 -0600, "walter deodiaus"
wrote:

The Ethernet connection is being used by the Broadband VOIP/wireless router

"Barb Bowman" wrote in message
.. .
use the Ethernet connection instead of USB.

On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 22:21:19 -0600, "walter deodiaus"
wrote:

I am going to try installing the Motorola SB4200 USB modem from
http://broadband.motorola.com/consum...tinuedProducts
http://broadband.motorola.com/consum...-utility-b.exe
When installing it from the Vista prompt to update the unknown driver, I
get
an error saying that is is unsupported
I tried installing it as a legacy driver but get an error that the inf is
not supported
The motorola web site says to install it anyway, but that fails.
I copied the *.sys files to c:\windows\system32
Is there a way to force the installation of the files?
How can I modify the inf file to make Vista sp2 accept it?

Barb Bowman
MS-MVP
http://www.digitalmediaphile.com
http://digitalmediaphile.wordpress.com


Barb Bowman
MS-MVP
http://www.digitalmediaphile.com
http://digitalmediaphile.wordpress.com
  #44 (permalink)  
Old February 24th 10, 12:57 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
walter deodiaus
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Posts: 31
Default voip/wireless broadband routers.

If you look back in the postings, this is an approach which I have tried .
It seems as if my Linksys WRTP54G-VR does not have any supported drivers
under Vista64 sp2.
My question is, is the signal coming out of the broadband router something
that was understood by XP but not understood by Vista (hence the need for a
device driver)? I thought device drivers were something that the computer
uses to talk to hardware which is occuping a PCI slot or connected via a USB
cable. Are there device drivers for something which is outside the
computer? I would have thought something like this were standardized to the
point of being uniform. If the device driver is not available, which
brand/model of a broadband should I use. I went to BestBuy, but I got the
distinct impression that they were not as "trained" as I had hoped for.
Maybe the guy I got should have been in the large appliances section, but
was covering for his sick coworker.
Or is there something else in this set up that I am not doing correctly, do
I have to add or change a MAC address at location http://192.168.1.15?
Can someone suggest a more appropriate newsgroup in which to post this.
"Barb Bowman" wrote in message
...
cable modem--router--computer

The cable modem should be the edge device. connect the WAN port of the
router
via Ethernet to the cable model. connect the Computer via Ethernet to one
of the
LAN ports on the router.

On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 23:51:57 -0600, "walter deodiaus"
wrote:

The Ethernet connection is being used by the Broadband VOIP/wireless
router

"Barb Bowman" wrote in message
. ..
use the Ethernet connection instead of USB.

On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 22:21:19 -0600, "walter deodiaus"

wrote:

I am going to try installing the Motorola SB4200 USB modem from
http://broadband.motorola.com/consum...tinuedProducts
http://broadband.motorola.com/consum...-utility-b.exe
When installing it from the Vista prompt to update the unknown driver, I
get
an error saying that is is unsupported
I tried installing it as a legacy driver but get an error that the inf
is
not supported
The motorola web site says to install it anyway, but that fails.
I copied the *.sys files to c:\windows\system32
Is there a way to force the installation of the files?
How can I modify the inf file to make Vista sp2 accept it?

Barb Bowman
MS-MVP
http://www.digitalmediaphile.com
http://digitalmediaphile.wordpress.com


Barb Bowman
MS-MVP
http://www.digitalmediaphile.com
http://digitalmediaphile.wordpress.com





  #45 (permalink)  
Old February 24th 10, 12:57 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
walter deodiaus
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 31
Default voip/wireless broadband routers.

If you look back in the postings, this is an approach which I have tried .
It seems as if my Linksys WRTP54G-VR does not have any supported drivers
under Vista64 sp2.
My question is, is the signal coming out of the broadband router something
that was understood by XP but not understood by Vista (hence the need for a
device driver)? I thought device drivers were something that the computer
uses to talk to hardware which is occuping a PCI slot or connected via a USB
cable. Are there device drivers for something which is outside the
computer? I would have thought something like this were standardized to the
point of being uniform. If the device driver is not available, which
brand/model of a broadband should I use. I went to BestBuy, but I got the
distinct impression that they were not as "trained" as I had hoped for.
Maybe the guy I got should have been in the large appliances section, but
was covering for his sick coworker.
Or is there something else in this set up that I am not doing correctly, do
I have to add or change a MAC address at location http://192.168.1.15?
Can someone suggest a more appropriate newsgroup in which to post this.
"Barb Bowman" wrote in message
...
cable modem--router--computer

The cable modem should be the edge device. connect the WAN port of the
router
via Ethernet to the cable model. connect the Computer via Ethernet to one
of the
LAN ports on the router.

On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 23:51:57 -0600, "walter deodiaus"
wrote:

The Ethernet connection is being used by the Broadband VOIP/wireless
router

"Barb Bowman" wrote in message
. ..
use the Ethernet connection instead of USB.

On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 22:21:19 -0600, "walter deodiaus"

wrote:

I am going to try installing the Motorola SB4200 USB modem from
http://broadband.motorola.com/consum...tinuedProducts
http://broadband.motorola.com/consum...-utility-b.exe
When installing it from the Vista prompt to update the unknown driver, I
get
an error saying that is is unsupported
I tried installing it as a legacy driver but get an error that the inf
is
not supported
The motorola web site says to install it anyway, but that fails.
I copied the *.sys files to c:\windows\system32
Is there a way to force the installation of the files?
How can I modify the inf file to make Vista sp2 accept it?

Barb Bowman
MS-MVP
http://www.digitalmediaphile.com
http://digitalmediaphile.wordpress.com


Barb Bowman
MS-MVP
http://www.digitalmediaphile.com
http://digitalmediaphile.wordpress.com





  #46 (permalink)  
Old February 24th 10, 02:34 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
Curious[_6_]
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Posts: 193
Default voip/wireless broadband routers.

Yes some device such a disk drives and minimum display fuctionality have
standard drivers supplied my MS. However most other hardware devices do not
since they have not idea of how to handle new functionality implemented in
the hardware by the vendors. Therefore all hardware vendors are responsible
for providing drivers for their hardware of each major OS change and they
have to pay MS to have MS test them to insure that they conform to the
driver standards for a new OS in order to have them appear on the WHQL list
and to have MS provide them to users with WinUpdate.

"walter deodiaus" wrote in message
...
If you look back in the postings, this is an approach which I have tried .
It seems as if my Linksys WRTP54G-VR does not have any supported drivers
under Vista64 sp2.
My question is, is the signal coming out of the broadband router something
that was understood by XP but not understood by Vista (hence the need for
a device driver)? I thought device drivers were something that the
computer uses to talk to hardware which is occuping a PCI slot or
connected via a USB cable. Are there device drivers for something which
is outside the computer? I would have thought something like this were
standardized to the point of being uniform. If the device driver is not
available, which brand/model of a broadband should I use. I went to
BestBuy, but I got the distinct impression that they were not as "trained"
as I had hoped for. Maybe the guy I got should have been in the large
appliances section, but was covering for his sick coworker.
Or is there something else in this set up that I am not doing correctly,
do I have to add or change a MAC address at location http://192.168.1.15?
Can someone suggest a more appropriate newsgroup in which to post this.
"Barb Bowman" wrote in message
...
cable modem--router--computer

The cable modem should be the edge device. connect the WAN port of the
router
via Ethernet to the cable model. connect the Computer via Ethernet to one
of the
LAN ports on the router.

On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 23:51:57 -0600, "walter deodiaus"

wrote:

The Ethernet connection is being used by the Broadband VOIP/wireless
router

"Barb Bowman" wrote in message
...
use the Ethernet connection instead of USB.

On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 22:21:19 -0600, "walter deodiaus"

wrote:

I am going to try installing the Motorola SB4200 USB modem from
http://broadband.motorola.com/consum...tinuedProducts
http://broadband.motorola.com/consum...-utility-b.exe
When installing it from the Vista prompt to update the unknown driver,
I
get
an error saying that is is unsupported
I tried installing it as a legacy driver but get an error that the inf
is
not supported
The motorola web site says to install it anyway, but that fails.
I copied the *.sys files to c:\windows\system32
Is there a way to force the installation of the files?
How can I modify the inf file to make Vista sp2 accept it?

Barb Bowman
MS-MVP
http://www.digitalmediaphile.com
http://digitalmediaphile.wordpress.com

Barb Bowman
MS-MVP
http://www.digitalmediaphile.com
http://digitalmediaphile.wordpress.com





  #47 (permalink)  
Old February 24th 10, 02:34 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
Curious[_6_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 193
Default voip/wireless broadband routers.

Yes some device such a disk drives and minimum display fuctionality have
standard drivers supplied my MS. However most other hardware devices do not
since they have not idea of how to handle new functionality implemented in
the hardware by the vendors. Therefore all hardware vendors are responsible
for providing drivers for their hardware of each major OS change and they
have to pay MS to have MS test them to insure that they conform to the
driver standards for a new OS in order to have them appear on the WHQL list
and to have MS provide them to users with WinUpdate.

"walter deodiaus" wrote in message
...
If you look back in the postings, this is an approach which I have tried .
It seems as if my Linksys WRTP54G-VR does not have any supported drivers
under Vista64 sp2.
My question is, is the signal coming out of the broadband router something
that was understood by XP but not understood by Vista (hence the need for
a device driver)? I thought device drivers were something that the
computer uses to talk to hardware which is occuping a PCI slot or
connected via a USB cable. Are there device drivers for something which
is outside the computer? I would have thought something like this were
standardized to the point of being uniform. If the device driver is not
available, which brand/model of a broadband should I use. I went to
BestBuy, but I got the distinct impression that they were not as "trained"
as I had hoped for. Maybe the guy I got should have been in the large
appliances section, but was covering for his sick coworker.
Or is there something else in this set up that I am not doing correctly,
do I have to add or change a MAC address at location http://192.168.1.15?
Can someone suggest a more appropriate newsgroup in which to post this.
"Barb Bowman" wrote in message
...
cable modem--router--computer

The cable modem should be the edge device. connect the WAN port of the
router
via Ethernet to the cable model. connect the Computer via Ethernet to one
of the
LAN ports on the router.

On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 23:51:57 -0600, "walter deodiaus"

wrote:

The Ethernet connection is being used by the Broadband VOIP/wireless
router

"Barb Bowman" wrote in message
...
use the Ethernet connection instead of USB.

On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 22:21:19 -0600, "walter deodiaus"

wrote:

I am going to try installing the Motorola SB4200 USB modem from
http://broadband.motorola.com/consum...tinuedProducts
http://broadband.motorola.com/consum...-utility-b.exe
When installing it from the Vista prompt to update the unknown driver,
I
get
an error saying that is is unsupported
I tried installing it as a legacy driver but get an error that the inf
is
not supported
The motorola web site says to install it anyway, but that fails.
I copied the *.sys files to c:\windows\system32
Is there a way to force the installation of the files?
How can I modify the inf file to make Vista sp2 accept it?

Barb Bowman
MS-MVP
http://www.digitalmediaphile.com
http://digitalmediaphile.wordpress.com

Barb Bowman
MS-MVP
http://www.digitalmediaphile.com
http://digitalmediaphile.wordpress.com





  #48 (permalink)  
Old February 25th 10, 06:23 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices,microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup
NZSchoolTech[_2_]
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Posts: 20
Default HP Pavillion a1632x

It is similar to the Intel onboard chipset legal wrangle. These chipsets
will support Vista only with the generic drivers provided by Microsoft. Thus
they can claim "Vista Ready".

If your system allows it you could put in a low end graphics card that has
drivers, for example a ATI Radeon X300 chipset has a native Vista driver
available.

--
--


"walter deodiaus" wrote in message
...
I have a HP Pavillion a1632x which came with XP, but was advertised to be
upgradeable to
Vista. Later on, this option was not supported. This falls on false
advertising! Doesn't HP have trial drivers? I called HP, but they don't
seem to support Vista for this machine.
Last week, I was infected by a virus and was unable to recover my XP OS.
I received a copy of Vista at a trade show, and decided to install it, as
I did not want to shell out $30 for the CDs. Besides, I heard that Vista
was far better after Service pack 1.
Does anyone know where to get device drivers for the NVidea nForce Network
Controller? I tried both the HP & nvidea, but none of those work.
Moreover, HP does not talk much about the exact specs on the network
controler (which is on board).
I guess my time is cheap, so I am willing to spend a couple of hours
before breaking down and ordering the XP reinstall cds!

  #49 (permalink)  
Old February 25th 10, 06:23 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices,microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup
NZSchoolTech[_2_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 20
Default HP Pavillion a1632x


It is similar to the Intel onboard chipset legal wrangle. These chipsets
will support Vista only with the generic drivers provided by Microsoft. Thus
they can claim "Vista Ready".

If your system allows it you could put in a low end graphics card that has
drivers, for example a ATI Radeon X300 chipset has a native Vista driver
available.

--
--


"walter deodiaus" wrote in message
...
I have a HP Pavillion a1632x which came with XP, but was advertised to be
upgradeable to
Vista. Later on, this option was not supported. This falls on false
advertising! Doesn't HP have trial drivers? I called HP, but they don't
seem to support Vista for this machine.
Last week, I was infected by a virus and was unable to recover my XP OS.
I received a copy of Vista at a trade show, and decided to install it, as
I did not want to shell out $30 for the CDs. Besides, I heard that Vista
was far better after Service pack 1.
Does anyone know where to get device drivers for the NVidea nForce Network
Controller? I tried both the HP & nvidea, but none of those work.
Moreover, HP does not talk much about the exact specs on the network
controler (which is on board).
I guess my time is cheap, so I am willing to spend a couple of hours
before breaking down and ordering the XP reinstall cds!

 




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