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XP vs. Vista
Have a small network consisting of one Win XP Media Center Ed. and one Vista
home premium (and an Internet router). The Vista crashed and was restored to factory and apps reinstalled, etc. Each computer has dedicated IP address, and each runs a version of Norton Internet Security. They are in the same workgroup. Prior to the Vista problem, all was generall well. Now, the XP seems to lose network connectivity to the Vista computer when the computers are turned on in the morning. This is important for many reasons, including that the XP uses a printer attached to the Vista for most of the XP's printing needs. I have set up a user on Vista that matches the user on XP, and have set the NIS on Vista to allow all connections to the IP of the XP box. And all is well until that reboot. There may be more to that, but in the few days the rebuilt Vista has been up, that has been the story. I have been able to restore the connection by launching Network Places, and searching for the name of the Vista computer. It so far does not show up in the network view until I do a manual search using the computer name. Then when it comes up and I double-click on the Vista C: drive, I'm prompted for login info, which I give and then I get connected (why is this not automatically done for me?). I've also mapped a drive to the Vista and set that for "reconnect at login." Ideas/fixes? -- Bill |
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XP vs. Vista
Bill H. wrote:
Have a small network consisting of one Win XP Media Center Ed. and one Vista home premium (and an Internet router). The Vista crashed and was restored to factory and apps reinstalled, etc. Each computer has dedicated IP address, and each runs a version of Norton Internet Security. They are in the same workgroup. Prior to the Vista problem, all was generall well. Now, the XP seems to lose network connectivity to the Vista computer when the computers are turned on in the morning. This is important for many reasons, including that the XP uses a printer attached to the Vista for most of the XP's printing needs. I have set up a user on Vista that matches the user on XP, and have set the NIS on Vista to allow all connections to the IP of the XP box. And all is well until that reboot. There may be more to that, but in the few days the rebuilt Vista has been up, that has been the story. I have been able to restore the connection by launching Network Places, and searching for the name of the Vista computer. It so far does not show up in the network view until I do a manual search using the computer name. Then when it comes up and I double-click on the Vista C: drive, I'm prompted for login info, which I give and then I get connected (why is this not automatically done for me?). I've also mapped a drive to the Vista and set that for "reconnect at login." Ideas/fixes? How long is the period between when the Vista computer is started and the XP computer? I notice with Vista it takes a short time after starting before the network connection is available, even with fixed IP addresses. You might try starting the Vista computer and waiting for the network connection icon to show that it is connected before starting the XP computer. |
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XP vs. Vista
Bill H. wrote:
Have a small network consisting of one Win XP Media Center Ed. and one Vista home premium (and an Internet router). The Vista crashed and was restored to factory and apps reinstalled, etc. Each computer has dedicated IP address, and each runs a version of Norton Internet Security. They are in the same workgroup. Prior to the Vista problem, all was generall well. Now, the XP seems to lose network connectivity to the Vista computer when the computers are turned on in the morning. This is important for many reasons, including that the XP uses a printer attached to the Vista for most of the XP's printing needs. I have set up a user on Vista that matches the user on XP, and have set the NIS on Vista to allow all connections to the IP of the XP box. And all is well until that reboot. There may be more to that, but in the few days the rebuilt Vista has been up, that has been the story. I have been able to restore the connection by launching Network Places, and searching for the name of the Vista computer. It so far does not show up in the network view until I do a manual search using the computer name. Then when it comes up and I double-click on the Vista C: drive, I'm prompted for login info, which I give and then I get connected (why is this not automatically done for me?). I've also mapped a drive to the Vista and set that for "reconnect at login." Ideas/fixes? How long is the period between when the Vista computer is started and the XP computer? I notice with Vista it takes a short time after starting before the network connection is available, even with fixed IP addresses. You might try starting the Vista computer and waiting for the network connection icon to show that it is connected before starting the XP computer. |
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Probably not very long between computer starts. I am having them start the
Vista first. And since they can get on the Internet on Vista right away, I presume that's the "network connection icon" in the systray you're talking about. And sometimes it's a very long time between starts as the person using the XP may not come in for hours after the Vista is started. :-( --Bill "Michael W Ryder" wrote in message news Bill H. wrote: Have a small network consisting of one Win XP Media Center Ed. and one Vista home premium (and an Internet router). The Vista crashed and was restored to factory and apps reinstalled, etc. Each computer has dedicated IP address, and each runs a version of Norton Internet Security. They are in the same workgroup. Prior to the Vista problem, all was generall well. Now, the XP seems to lose network connectivity to the Vista computer when the computers are turned on in the morning. This is important for many reasons, including that the XP uses a printer attached to the Vista for most of the XP's printing needs. I have set up a user on Vista that matches the user on XP, and have set the NIS on Vista to allow all connections to the IP of the XP box. And all is well until that reboot. There may be more to that, but in the few days the rebuilt Vista has been up, that has been the story. I have been able to restore the connection by launching Network Places, and searching for the name of the Vista computer. It so far does not show up in the network view until I do a manual search using the computer name. Then when it comes up and I double-click on the Vista C: drive, I'm prompted for login info, which I give and then I get connected (why is this not automatically done for me?). I've also mapped a drive to the Vista and set that for "reconnect at login." Ideas/fixes? How long is the period between when the Vista computer is started and the XP computer? I notice with Vista it takes a short time after starting before the network connection is available, even with fixed IP addresses. You might try starting the Vista computer and waiting for the network connection icon to show that it is connected before starting the XP computer. |
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XP vs. Vista
Probably not very long between computer starts. I am having them start the
Vista first. And since they can get on the Internet on Vista right away, I presume that's the "network connection icon" in the systray you're talking about. And sometimes it's a very long time between starts as the person using the XP may not come in for hours after the Vista is started. :-( --Bill "Michael W Ryder" wrote in message news Bill H. wrote: Have a small network consisting of one Win XP Media Center Ed. and one Vista home premium (and an Internet router). The Vista crashed and was restored to factory and apps reinstalled, etc. Each computer has dedicated IP address, and each runs a version of Norton Internet Security. They are in the same workgroup. Prior to the Vista problem, all was generall well. Now, the XP seems to lose network connectivity to the Vista computer when the computers are turned on in the morning. This is important for many reasons, including that the XP uses a printer attached to the Vista for most of the XP's printing needs. I have set up a user on Vista that matches the user on XP, and have set the NIS on Vista to allow all connections to the IP of the XP box. And all is well until that reboot. There may be more to that, but in the few days the rebuilt Vista has been up, that has been the story. I have been able to restore the connection by launching Network Places, and searching for the name of the Vista computer. It so far does not show up in the network view until I do a manual search using the computer name. Then when it comes up and I double-click on the Vista C: drive, I'm prompted for login info, which I give and then I get connected (why is this not automatically done for me?). I've also mapped a drive to the Vista and set that for "reconnect at login." Ideas/fixes? How long is the period between when the Vista computer is started and the XP computer? I notice with Vista it takes a short time after starting before the network connection is available, even with fixed IP addresses. You might try starting the Vista computer and waiting for the network connection icon to show that it is connected before starting the XP computer. |
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Also, when I'm at the XP and go into network places and click on "view
workgroup computers" I get a "workgroup is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource." etc. Then, I click on search and am able to find the Vista computer. I double-click on the computer and am prompted for user ID and password. Why is this connection not being made automatically?? And why does it ask for userid and password? --Bill "Michael W Ryder" wrote in message news Bill H. wrote: Have a small network consisting of one Win XP Media Center Ed. and one Vista home premium (and an Internet router). The Vista crashed and was restored to factory and apps reinstalled, etc. Each computer has dedicated IP address, and each runs a version of Norton Internet Security. They are in the same workgroup. Prior to the Vista problem, all was generall well. Now, the XP seems to lose network connectivity to the Vista computer when the computers are turned on in the morning. This is important for many reasons, including that the XP uses a printer attached to the Vista for most of the XP's printing needs. I have set up a user on Vista that matches the user on XP, and have set the NIS on Vista to allow all connections to the IP of the XP box. And all is well until that reboot. There may be more to that, but in the few days the rebuilt Vista has been up, that has been the story. I have been able to restore the connection by launching Network Places, and searching for the name of the Vista computer. It so far does not show up in the network view until I do a manual search using the computer name. Then when it comes up and I double-click on the Vista C: drive, I'm prompted for login info, which I give and then I get connected (why is this not automatically done for me?). I've also mapped a drive to the Vista and set that for "reconnect at login." Ideas/fixes? How long is the period between when the Vista computer is started and the XP computer? I notice with Vista it takes a short time after starting before the network connection is available, even with fixed IP addresses. You might try starting the Vista computer and waiting for the network connection icon to show that it is connected before starting the XP computer. |
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XP vs. Vista
Also, when I'm at the XP and go into network places and click on "view
workgroup computers" I get a "workgroup is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource." etc. Then, I click on search and am able to find the Vista computer. I double-click on the computer and am prompted for user ID and password. Why is this connection not being made automatically?? And why does it ask for userid and password? --Bill "Michael W Ryder" wrote in message news Bill H. wrote: Have a small network consisting of one Win XP Media Center Ed. and one Vista home premium (and an Internet router). The Vista crashed and was restored to factory and apps reinstalled, etc. Each computer has dedicated IP address, and each runs a version of Norton Internet Security. They are in the same workgroup. Prior to the Vista problem, all was generall well. Now, the XP seems to lose network connectivity to the Vista computer when the computers are turned on in the morning. This is important for many reasons, including that the XP uses a printer attached to the Vista for most of the XP's printing needs. I have set up a user on Vista that matches the user on XP, and have set the NIS on Vista to allow all connections to the IP of the XP box. And all is well until that reboot. There may be more to that, but in the few days the rebuilt Vista has been up, that has been the story. I have been able to restore the connection by launching Network Places, and searching for the name of the Vista computer. It so far does not show up in the network view until I do a manual search using the computer name. Then when it comes up and I double-click on the Vista C: drive, I'm prompted for login info, which I give and then I get connected (why is this not automatically done for me?). I've also mapped a drive to the Vista and set that for "reconnect at login." Ideas/fixes? How long is the period between when the Vista computer is started and the XP computer? I notice with Vista it takes a short time after starting before the network connection is available, even with fixed IP addresses. You might try starting the Vista computer and waiting for the network connection icon to show that it is connected before starting the XP computer. |
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XP vs. Vista
Bill H. wrote:
Also, when I'm at the XP and go into network places and click on "view workgroup computers" I get a "workgroup is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource." etc. Then, I click on search and am able to find the Vista computer. I double-click on the computer and am prompted for user ID and password. Why is this connection not being made automatically?? And why does it ask for userid and password? I am not sure what is happening here but I started seeing that behavior even with XP. My Vista computer connects to mapped drives on a Windows 2000 workstation and a Windows 2003 server. The computer has no problems connecting to the workstation but I have to manually log in to the server whenever I reboot the computer. This happened also with XP Pro before I "upgraded" to Vista Business. One thing I noticed was that when I set up the connection I logged in as UserA and had it save the password. When it tried to log in the next time it had Computer/UserA for the username and obviously the server could not find that user. I haven't tried setting up a user Computer/UserA on the server to see if that would work but you might want to try it. --Bill "Michael W Ryder" wrote in message news Bill H. wrote: Have a small network consisting of one Win XP Media Center Ed. and one Vista home premium (and an Internet router). The Vista crashed and was restored to factory and apps reinstalled, etc. Each computer has dedicated IP address, and each runs a version of Norton Internet Security. They are in the same workgroup. Prior to the Vista problem, all was generall well. Now, the XP seems to lose network connectivity to the Vista computer when the computers are turned on in the morning. This is important for many reasons, including that the XP uses a printer attached to the Vista for most of the XP's printing needs. I have set up a user on Vista that matches the user on XP, and have set the NIS on Vista to allow all connections to the IP of the XP box. And all is well until that reboot. There may be more to that, but in the few days the rebuilt Vista has been up, that has been the story. I have been able to restore the connection by launching Network Places, and searching for the name of the Vista computer. It so far does not show up in the network view until I do a manual search using the computer name. Then when it comes up and I double-click on the Vista C: drive, I'm prompted for login info, which I give and then I get connected (why is this not automatically done for me?). I've also mapped a drive to the Vista and set that for "reconnect at login." Ideas/fixes? How long is the period between when the Vista computer is started and the XP computer? I notice with Vista it takes a short time after starting before the network connection is available, even with fixed IP addresses. You might try starting the Vista computer and waiting for the network connection icon to show that it is connected before starting the XP computer. |
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XP vs. Vista
Bill H. wrote:
Also, when I'm at the XP and go into network places and click on "view workgroup computers" I get a "workgroup is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource." etc. Then, I click on search and am able to find the Vista computer. I double-click on the computer and am prompted for user ID and password. Why is this connection not being made automatically?? And why does it ask for userid and password? I am not sure what is happening here but I started seeing that behavior even with XP. My Vista computer connects to mapped drives on a Windows 2000 workstation and a Windows 2003 server. The computer has no problems connecting to the workstation but I have to manually log in to the server whenever I reboot the computer. This happened also with XP Pro before I "upgraded" to Vista Business. One thing I noticed was that when I set up the connection I logged in as UserA and had it save the password. When it tried to log in the next time it had Computer/UserA for the username and obviously the server could not find that user. I haven't tried setting up a user Computer/UserA on the server to see if that would work but you might want to try it. --Bill "Michael W Ryder" wrote in message news Bill H. wrote: Have a small network consisting of one Win XP Media Center Ed. and one Vista home premium (and an Internet router). The Vista crashed and was restored to factory and apps reinstalled, etc. Each computer has dedicated IP address, and each runs a version of Norton Internet Security. They are in the same workgroup. Prior to the Vista problem, all was generall well. Now, the XP seems to lose network connectivity to the Vista computer when the computers are turned on in the morning. This is important for many reasons, including that the XP uses a printer attached to the Vista for most of the XP's printing needs. I have set up a user on Vista that matches the user on XP, and have set the NIS on Vista to allow all connections to the IP of the XP box. And all is well until that reboot. There may be more to that, but in the few days the rebuilt Vista has been up, that has been the story. I have been able to restore the connection by launching Network Places, and searching for the name of the Vista computer. It so far does not show up in the network view until I do a manual search using the computer name. Then when it comes up and I double-click on the Vista C: drive, I'm prompted for login info, which I give and then I get connected (why is this not automatically done for me?). I've also mapped a drive to the Vista and set that for "reconnect at login." Ideas/fixes? How long is the period between when the Vista computer is started and the XP computer? I notice with Vista it takes a short time after starting before the network connection is available, even with fixed IP addresses. You might try starting the Vista computer and waiting for the network connection icon to show that it is connected before starting the XP computer. |
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I wonder...
Are there settings in XP that control the login process? Is there a way, when they log into the XP computer, to also and automatically log into the Vista computer with the same userid/password? --Bill "Michael W Ryder" wrote in message ... Bill H. wrote: Also, when I'm at the XP and go into network places and click on "view workgroup computers" I get a "workgroup is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource." etc. Then, I click on search and am able to find the Vista computer. I double-click on the computer and am prompted for user ID and password. Why is this connection not being made automatically?? And why does it ask for userid and password? I am not sure what is happening here but I started seeing that behavior even with XP. My Vista computer connects to mapped drives on a Windows 2000 workstation and a Windows 2003 server. The computer has no problems connecting to the workstation but I have to manually log in to the server whenever I reboot the computer. This happened also with XP Pro before I "upgraded" to Vista Business. One thing I noticed was that when I set up the connection I logged in as UserA and had it save the password. When it tried to log in the next time it had Computer/UserA for the username and obviously the server could not find that user. I haven't tried setting up a user Computer/UserA on the server to see if that would work but you might want to try it. --Bill "Michael W Ryder" wrote in message news Bill H. wrote: Have a small network consisting of one Win XP Media Center Ed. and one Vista home premium (and an Internet router). The Vista crashed and was restored to factory and apps reinstalled, etc. Each computer has dedicated IP address, and each runs a version of Norton Internet Security. They are in the same workgroup. Prior to the Vista problem, all was generall well. Now, the XP seems to lose network connectivity to the Vista computer when the computers are turned on in the morning. This is important for many reasons, including that the XP uses a printer attached to the Vista for most of the XP's printing needs. I have set up a user on Vista that matches the user on XP, and have set the NIS on Vista to allow all connections to the IP of the XP box. And all is well until that reboot. There may be more to that, but in the few days the rebuilt Vista has been up, that has been the story. I have been able to restore the connection by launching Network Places, and searching for the name of the Vista computer. It so far does not show up in the network view until I do a manual search using the computer name. Then when it comes up and I double-click on the Vista C: drive, I'm prompted for login info, which I give and then I get connected (why is this not automatically done for me?). I've also mapped a drive to the Vista and set that for "reconnect at login." Ideas/fixes? How long is the period between when the Vista computer is started and the XP computer? I notice with Vista it takes a short time after starting before the network connection is available, even with fixed IP addresses. You might try starting the Vista computer and waiting for the network connection icon to show that it is connected before starting the XP computer. |
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