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Old April 20th 10, 03:17 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Bill H.
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Default XP vs. Vista

Have a small network consisting of one Win XP Media Center Ed. and one Vista
home premium (and an Internet router). The Vista crashed and was restored
to factory and apps reinstalled, etc. Each computer has dedicated IP
address, and each runs a version of Norton Internet Security. They are in
the same workgroup.

Prior to the Vista problem, all was generall well. Now, the XP seems to
lose network connectivity to the Vista computer when the computers are
turned on in the morning. This is important for many reasons, including
that the XP uses a printer attached to the Vista for most of the XP's
printing needs.

I have set up a user on Vista that matches the user on XP, and have set the
NIS on Vista to allow all connections to the IP of the XP box. And all is
well until that reboot. There may be more to that, but in the few days the
rebuilt Vista has been up, that has been the story.

I have been able to restore the connection by launching Network Places, and
searching for the name of the Vista computer. It so far does not show up in
the network view until I do a manual search using the computer name. Then
when it comes up and I double-click on the Vista C: drive, I'm prompted for
login info, which I give and then I get connected (why is this not
automatically done for me?). I've also mapped a drive to the Vista and set
that for "reconnect at login."

Ideas/fixes?

--
Bill



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Old April 20th 10, 06:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Michael W Ryder
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Default XP vs. Vista

Bill H. wrote:
Have a small network consisting of one Win XP Media Center Ed. and one Vista
home premium (and an Internet router). The Vista crashed and was restored
to factory and apps reinstalled, etc. Each computer has dedicated IP
address, and each runs a version of Norton Internet Security. They are in
the same workgroup.

Prior to the Vista problem, all was generall well. Now, the XP seems to
lose network connectivity to the Vista computer when the computers are
turned on in the morning. This is important for many reasons, including
that the XP uses a printer attached to the Vista for most of the XP's
printing needs.

I have set up a user on Vista that matches the user on XP, and have set the
NIS on Vista to allow all connections to the IP of the XP box. And all is
well until that reboot. There may be more to that, but in the few days the
rebuilt Vista has been up, that has been the story.

I have been able to restore the connection by launching Network Places, and
searching for the name of the Vista computer. It so far does not show up in
the network view until I do a manual search using the computer name. Then
when it comes up and I double-click on the Vista C: drive, I'm prompted for
login info, which I give and then I get connected (why is this not
automatically done for me?). I've also mapped a drive to the Vista and set
that for "reconnect at login."

Ideas/fixes?

How long is the period between when the Vista computer is started and
the XP computer? I notice with Vista it takes a short time after
starting before the network connection is available, even with fixed IP
addresses. You might try starting the Vista computer and waiting for
the network connection icon to show that it is connected before starting
the XP computer.
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Old April 20th 10, 06:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Michael W Ryder
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Default XP vs. Vista

Bill H. wrote:
Have a small network consisting of one Win XP Media Center Ed. and one Vista
home premium (and an Internet router). The Vista crashed and was restored
to factory and apps reinstalled, etc. Each computer has dedicated IP
address, and each runs a version of Norton Internet Security. They are in
the same workgroup.

Prior to the Vista problem, all was generall well. Now, the XP seems to
lose network connectivity to the Vista computer when the computers are
turned on in the morning. This is important for many reasons, including
that the XP uses a printer attached to the Vista for most of the XP's
printing needs.

I have set up a user on Vista that matches the user on XP, and have set the
NIS on Vista to allow all connections to the IP of the XP box. And all is
well until that reboot. There may be more to that, but in the few days the
rebuilt Vista has been up, that has been the story.

I have been able to restore the connection by launching Network Places, and
searching for the name of the Vista computer. It so far does not show up in
the network view until I do a manual search using the computer name. Then
when it comes up and I double-click on the Vista C: drive, I'm prompted for
login info, which I give and then I get connected (why is this not
automatically done for me?). I've also mapped a drive to the Vista and set
that for "reconnect at login."

Ideas/fixes?

How long is the period between when the Vista computer is started and
the XP computer? I notice with Vista it takes a short time after
starting before the network connection is available, even with fixed IP
addresses. You might try starting the Vista computer and waiting for
the network connection icon to show that it is connected before starting
the XP computer.
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Old April 21st 10, 05:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Bill H.
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Default XP vs. Vista

Probably not very long between computer starts. I am having them start the
Vista first. And since they can get on the Internet on Vista right away, I
presume that's the "network connection icon" in the systray you're talking
about. And sometimes it's a very long time between starts as the person
using the XP may not come in for hours after the Vista is started.

:-(

--Bill



"Michael W Ryder" wrote in message
news
Bill H. wrote:
Have a small network consisting of one Win XP Media Center Ed. and one
Vista home premium (and an Internet router). The Vista crashed and was
restored to factory and apps reinstalled, etc. Each computer has
dedicated IP address, and each runs a version of Norton Internet
Security. They are in the same workgroup.

Prior to the Vista problem, all was generall well. Now, the XP seems to
lose network connectivity to the Vista computer when the computers are
turned on in the morning. This is important for many reasons, including
that the XP uses a printer attached to the Vista for most of the XP's
printing needs.

I have set up a user on Vista that matches the user on XP, and have set
the NIS on Vista to allow all connections to the IP of the XP box. And
all is well until that reboot. There may be more to that, but in the few
days the rebuilt Vista has been up, that has been the story.

I have been able to restore the connection by launching Network Places,
and searching for the name of the Vista computer. It so far does not
show up in the network view until I do a manual search using the computer
name. Then when it comes up and I double-click on the Vista C: drive,
I'm prompted for login info, which I give and then I get connected (why
is this not automatically done for me?). I've also mapped a drive to the
Vista and set that for "reconnect at login."

Ideas/fixes?

How long is the period between when the Vista computer is started and the
XP computer? I notice with Vista it takes a short time after starting
before the network connection is available, even with fixed IP addresses.
You might try starting the Vista computer and waiting for the network
connection icon to show that it is connected before starting the XP
computer.



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Old April 21st 10, 05:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Bill H.
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Posts: 48
Default XP vs. Vista

Probably not very long between computer starts. I am having them start the
Vista first. And since they can get on the Internet on Vista right away, I
presume that's the "network connection icon" in the systray you're talking
about. And sometimes it's a very long time between starts as the person
using the XP may not come in for hours after the Vista is started.

:-(

--Bill



"Michael W Ryder" wrote in message
news
Bill H. wrote:
Have a small network consisting of one Win XP Media Center Ed. and one
Vista home premium (and an Internet router). The Vista crashed and was
restored to factory and apps reinstalled, etc. Each computer has
dedicated IP address, and each runs a version of Norton Internet
Security. They are in the same workgroup.

Prior to the Vista problem, all was generall well. Now, the XP seems to
lose network connectivity to the Vista computer when the computers are
turned on in the morning. This is important for many reasons, including
that the XP uses a printer attached to the Vista for most of the XP's
printing needs.

I have set up a user on Vista that matches the user on XP, and have set
the NIS on Vista to allow all connections to the IP of the XP box. And
all is well until that reboot. There may be more to that, but in the few
days the rebuilt Vista has been up, that has been the story.

I have been able to restore the connection by launching Network Places,
and searching for the name of the Vista computer. It so far does not
show up in the network view until I do a manual search using the computer
name. Then when it comes up and I double-click on the Vista C: drive,
I'm prompted for login info, which I give and then I get connected (why
is this not automatically done for me?). I've also mapped a drive to the
Vista and set that for "reconnect at login."

Ideas/fixes?

How long is the period between when the Vista computer is started and the
XP computer? I notice with Vista it takes a short time after starting
before the network connection is available, even with fixed IP addresses.
You might try starting the Vista computer and waiting for the network
connection icon to show that it is connected before starting the XP
computer.



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Old April 21st 10, 05:58 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Bill H.
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Posts: 48
Default XP vs. Vista

Also, when I'm at the XP and go into network places and click on "view
workgroup computers" I get a "workgroup is not accessible. You might not
have permission to use this network resource." etc. Then, I click on search
and am able to find the Vista computer. I double-click on the computer and
am prompted for user ID and password.

Why is this connection not being made automatically?? And why does it ask
for userid and password?

--Bill



"Michael W Ryder" wrote in message
news
Bill H. wrote:
Have a small network consisting of one Win XP Media Center Ed. and one
Vista home premium (and an Internet router). The Vista crashed and was
restored to factory and apps reinstalled, etc. Each computer has
dedicated IP address, and each runs a version of Norton Internet
Security. They are in the same workgroup.

Prior to the Vista problem, all was generall well. Now, the XP seems to
lose network connectivity to the Vista computer when the computers are
turned on in the morning. This is important for many reasons, including
that the XP uses a printer attached to the Vista for most of the XP's
printing needs.

I have set up a user on Vista that matches the user on XP, and have set
the NIS on Vista to allow all connections to the IP of the XP box. And
all is well until that reboot. There may be more to that, but in the few
days the rebuilt Vista has been up, that has been the story.

I have been able to restore the connection by launching Network Places,
and searching for the name of the Vista computer. It so far does not
show up in the network view until I do a manual search using the computer
name. Then when it comes up and I double-click on the Vista C: drive,
I'm prompted for login info, which I give and then I get connected (why
is this not automatically done for me?). I've also mapped a drive to the
Vista and set that for "reconnect at login."

Ideas/fixes?

How long is the period between when the Vista computer is started and the
XP computer? I notice with Vista it takes a short time after starting
before the network connection is available, even with fixed IP addresses.
You might try starting the Vista computer and waiting for the network
connection icon to show that it is connected before starting the XP
computer.



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Old April 21st 10, 05:58 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Bill H.
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Posts: 48
Default XP vs. Vista

Also, when I'm at the XP and go into network places and click on "view
workgroup computers" I get a "workgroup is not accessible. You might not
have permission to use this network resource." etc. Then, I click on search
and am able to find the Vista computer. I double-click on the computer and
am prompted for user ID and password.

Why is this connection not being made automatically?? And why does it ask
for userid and password?

--Bill



"Michael W Ryder" wrote in message
news
Bill H. wrote:
Have a small network consisting of one Win XP Media Center Ed. and one
Vista home premium (and an Internet router). The Vista crashed and was
restored to factory and apps reinstalled, etc. Each computer has
dedicated IP address, and each runs a version of Norton Internet
Security. They are in the same workgroup.

Prior to the Vista problem, all was generall well. Now, the XP seems to
lose network connectivity to the Vista computer when the computers are
turned on in the morning. This is important for many reasons, including
that the XP uses a printer attached to the Vista for most of the XP's
printing needs.

I have set up a user on Vista that matches the user on XP, and have set
the NIS on Vista to allow all connections to the IP of the XP box. And
all is well until that reboot. There may be more to that, but in the few
days the rebuilt Vista has been up, that has been the story.

I have been able to restore the connection by launching Network Places,
and searching for the name of the Vista computer. It so far does not
show up in the network view until I do a manual search using the computer
name. Then when it comes up and I double-click on the Vista C: drive,
I'm prompted for login info, which I give and then I get connected (why
is this not automatically done for me?). I've also mapped a drive to the
Vista and set that for "reconnect at login."

Ideas/fixes?

How long is the period between when the Vista computer is started and the
XP computer? I notice with Vista it takes a short time after starting
before the network connection is available, even with fixed IP addresses.
You might try starting the Vista computer and waiting for the network
connection icon to show that it is connected before starting the XP
computer.



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Old April 21st 10, 06:26 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Michael W Ryder
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Posts: 13
Default XP vs. Vista

Bill H. wrote:
Also, when I'm at the XP and go into network places and click on "view
workgroup computers" I get a "workgroup is not accessible. You might not
have permission to use this network resource." etc. Then, I click on search
and am able to find the Vista computer. I double-click on the computer and
am prompted for user ID and password.

Why is this connection not being made automatically?? And why does it ask
for userid and password?


I am not sure what is happening here but I started seeing that behavior
even with XP. My Vista computer connects to mapped drives on a Windows
2000 workstation and a Windows 2003 server. The computer has no
problems connecting to the workstation but I have to manually log in to
the server whenever I reboot the computer. This happened also with XP
Pro before I "upgraded" to Vista Business. One thing I noticed was that
when I set up the connection I logged in as UserA and had it save the
password. When it tried to log in the next time it had Computer/UserA
for the username and obviously the server could not find that user. I
haven't tried setting up a user Computer/UserA on the server to see if
that would work but you might want to try it.


--Bill



"Michael W Ryder" wrote in message
news
Bill H. wrote:
Have a small network consisting of one Win XP Media Center Ed. and one
Vista home premium (and an Internet router). The Vista crashed and was
restored to factory and apps reinstalled, etc. Each computer has
dedicated IP address, and each runs a version of Norton Internet
Security. They are in the same workgroup.

Prior to the Vista problem, all was generall well. Now, the XP seems to
lose network connectivity to the Vista computer when the computers are
turned on in the morning. This is important for many reasons, including
that the XP uses a printer attached to the Vista for most of the XP's
printing needs.

I have set up a user on Vista that matches the user on XP, and have set
the NIS on Vista to allow all connections to the IP of the XP box. And
all is well until that reboot. There may be more to that, but in the few
days the rebuilt Vista has been up, that has been the story.

I have been able to restore the connection by launching Network Places,
and searching for the name of the Vista computer. It so far does not
show up in the network view until I do a manual search using the computer
name. Then when it comes up and I double-click on the Vista C: drive,
I'm prompted for login info, which I give and then I get connected (why
is this not automatically done for me?). I've also mapped a drive to the
Vista and set that for "reconnect at login."

Ideas/fixes?

How long is the period between when the Vista computer is started and the
XP computer? I notice with Vista it takes a short time after starting
before the network connection is available, even with fixed IP addresses.
You might try starting the Vista computer and waiting for the network
connection icon to show that it is connected before starting the XP
computer.



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Old April 21st 10, 06:26 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Michael W Ryder
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Posts: 13
Default XP vs. Vista

Bill H. wrote:
Also, when I'm at the XP and go into network places and click on "view
workgroup computers" I get a "workgroup is not accessible. You might not
have permission to use this network resource." etc. Then, I click on search
and am able to find the Vista computer. I double-click on the computer and
am prompted for user ID and password.

Why is this connection not being made automatically?? And why does it ask
for userid and password?


I am not sure what is happening here but I started seeing that behavior
even with XP. My Vista computer connects to mapped drives on a Windows
2000 workstation and a Windows 2003 server. The computer has no
problems connecting to the workstation but I have to manually log in to
the server whenever I reboot the computer. This happened also with XP
Pro before I "upgraded" to Vista Business. One thing I noticed was that
when I set up the connection I logged in as UserA and had it save the
password. When it tried to log in the next time it had Computer/UserA
for the username and obviously the server could not find that user. I
haven't tried setting up a user Computer/UserA on the server to see if
that would work but you might want to try it.


--Bill



"Michael W Ryder" wrote in message
news
Bill H. wrote:
Have a small network consisting of one Win XP Media Center Ed. and one
Vista home premium (and an Internet router). The Vista crashed and was
restored to factory and apps reinstalled, etc. Each computer has
dedicated IP address, and each runs a version of Norton Internet
Security. They are in the same workgroup.

Prior to the Vista problem, all was generall well. Now, the XP seems to
lose network connectivity to the Vista computer when the computers are
turned on in the morning. This is important for many reasons, including
that the XP uses a printer attached to the Vista for most of the XP's
printing needs.

I have set up a user on Vista that matches the user on XP, and have set
the NIS on Vista to allow all connections to the IP of the XP box. And
all is well until that reboot. There may be more to that, but in the few
days the rebuilt Vista has been up, that has been the story.

I have been able to restore the connection by launching Network Places,
and searching for the name of the Vista computer. It so far does not
show up in the network view until I do a manual search using the computer
name. Then when it comes up and I double-click on the Vista C: drive,
I'm prompted for login info, which I give and then I get connected (why
is this not automatically done for me?). I've also mapped a drive to the
Vista and set that for "reconnect at login."

Ideas/fixes?

How long is the period between when the Vista computer is started and the
XP computer? I notice with Vista it takes a short time after starting
before the network connection is available, even with fixed IP addresses.
You might try starting the Vista computer and waiting for the network
connection icon to show that it is connected before starting the XP
computer.



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Old April 22nd 10, 01:27 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Bill H.
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Posts: 48
Default XP vs. Vista

I wonder...

Are there settings in XP that control the login process? Is there a way,
when they log into the XP computer, to also and automatically log into the
Vista computer with the same userid/password?

--Bill


"Michael W Ryder" wrote in message
...
Bill H. wrote:
Also, when I'm at the XP and go into network places and click on "view
workgroup computers" I get a "workgroup is not accessible. You might
not have permission to use this network resource." etc. Then, I click on
search and am able to find the Vista computer. I double-click on the
computer and am prompted for user ID and password.

Why is this connection not being made automatically?? And why does it
ask for userid and password?


I am not sure what is happening here but I started seeing that behavior
even with XP. My Vista computer connects to mapped drives on a Windows
2000 workstation and a Windows 2003 server. The computer has no problems
connecting to the workstation but I have to manually log in to the server
whenever I reboot the computer. This happened also with XP Pro before I
"upgraded" to Vista Business. One thing I noticed was that when I set up
the connection I logged in as UserA and had it save the password. When it
tried to log in the next time it had Computer/UserA for the username and
obviously the server could not find that user. I haven't tried setting up
a user Computer/UserA on the server to see if that would work but you
might want to try it.


--Bill



"Michael W Ryder" wrote in message
news
Bill H. wrote:
Have a small network consisting of one Win XP Media Center Ed. and one
Vista home premium (and an Internet router). The Vista crashed and was
restored to factory and apps reinstalled, etc. Each computer has
dedicated IP address, and each runs a version of Norton Internet
Security. They are in the same workgroup.

Prior to the Vista problem, all was generall well. Now, the XP seems
to lose network connectivity to the Vista computer when the computers
are turned on in the morning. This is important for many reasons,
including that the XP uses a printer attached to the Vista for most of
the XP's printing needs.

I have set up a user on Vista that matches the user on XP, and have set
the NIS on Vista to allow all connections to the IP of the XP box. And
all is well until that reboot. There may be more to that, but in the
few days the rebuilt Vista has been up, that has been the story.

I have been able to restore the connection by launching Network Places,
and searching for the name of the Vista computer. It so far does not
show up in the network view until I do a manual search using the
computer name. Then when it comes up and I double-click on the Vista
C: drive, I'm prompted for login info, which I give and then I get
connected (why is this not automatically done for me?). I've also
mapped a drive to the Vista and set that for "reconnect at login."

Ideas/fixes?

How long is the period between when the Vista computer is started and
the XP computer? I notice with Vista it takes a short time after
starting before the network connection is available, even with fixed IP
addresses. You might try starting the Vista computer and waiting for the
network connection icon to show that it is connected before starting the
XP computer.



 




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