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Old May 2nd 10, 12:25 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
GrtArtiste
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Default Windows Defender

Is this program even remotely useful? I've had it for 2 years now on
this Vista 32-bit Home Premium (Dell Inspiron 530). I've accepted all
auto-updates whenever they've occurred. Whenever it is run, 1 of 2
things will happen. Either it will report no detections and will say
the system is running normally, or it will report a problem that it is
always unable to deal with. Never has WD ever reported a problem that
it was able to correct. Today's problem is "BrowserModifier:Win32/
Fotomoto". Clicking on the link for more info, I arrive at a MS web
page saying the most recent definition update for this problem is
dated 11 July 2009. I fully expect that, as with previous detection
reports, the detection warning will disappear after the next update of
WD. Meanwhile, this computer gets frequent scans (usually twice a
week) with Malwarebytes and Avira Antivir and occasional scans with
Superantispyware. None of these has ever reported a problem at the
same time that WD does.

Should I just not bother? Should I just let it update itself (so I
won't be repeatedly bothered with update notices) and otherwise ignore
it? TIA.

GrtArtiste
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Old May 2nd 10, 03:39 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
Brink
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Default Windows Defender


Hello GrtArtiste,

You might consider using "Microsoft Security Essentials" instead. It
will turn off and replace Windows Defender automatically during it's
installation. It provides much better virus, malware, and spyware
protection.

http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/

Hope this helps,
Shawn

GrtArtiste;1260525 Wrote:
Is this program even remotely useful? I've had it for 2 years now on
this Vista 32-bit Home Premium (Dell Inspiron 530). I've accepted all
auto-updates whenever they've occurred. Whenever it is run, 1 of 2
things will happen. Either it will report no detections and will say
the system is running normally, or it will report a problem that it is
always unable to deal with. Never has WD ever reported a problem that
it was able to correct. Today's problem is "BrowserModifier:Win32/
Fotomoto". Clicking on the link for more info, I arrive at a MS web
page saying the most recent definition update for this problem is
dated 11 July 2009. I fully expect that, as with previous detection
reports, the detection warning will disappear after the next update of
WD. Meanwhile, this computer gets frequent scans (usually twice a
week) with Malwarebytes and Avira Antivir and occasional scans with
Superantispyware. None of these has ever reported a problem at the
same time that WD does.

Should I just not bother? Should I just let it update itself (so I
won't be repeatedly bothered with update notices) and otherwise ignore
it? TIA.

GrtArtiste



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Old May 2nd 10, 03:39 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
Brink
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Default Windows Defender


Hello GrtArtiste,

You might consider using "Microsoft Security Essentials" instead. It
will turn off and replace Windows Defender automatically during it's
installation. It provides much better virus, malware, and spyware
protection.

http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/

Hope this helps,
Shawn

GrtArtiste;1260525 Wrote:
Is this program even remotely useful? I've had it for 2 years now on
this Vista 32-bit Home Premium (Dell Inspiron 530). I've accepted all
auto-updates whenever they've occurred. Whenever it is run, 1 of 2
things will happen. Either it will report no detections and will say
the system is running normally, or it will report a problem that it is
always unable to deal with. Never has WD ever reported a problem that
it was able to correct. Today's problem is "BrowserModifier:Win32/
Fotomoto". Clicking on the link for more info, I arrive at a MS web
page saying the most recent definition update for this problem is
dated 11 July 2009. I fully expect that, as with previous detection
reports, the detection warning will disappear after the next update of
WD. Meanwhile, this computer gets frequent scans (usually twice a
week) with Malwarebytes and Avira Antivir and occasional scans with
Superantispyware. None of these has ever reported a problem at the
same time that WD does.

Should I just not bother? Should I just let it update itself (so I
won't be repeatedly bothered with update notices) and otherwise ignore
it? TIA.

GrtArtiste



--
Brink

'*MS MVP - Windows Desktop Experience 2009 - 2010*'
(https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...5-AD617AF3D511)
*There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask
them.*
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Forums*' (http://www.sevenforums.com/) - '*Windows Vista Forums*'
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Old May 2nd 10, 05:30 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
dinesh
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I completely agree with Brink here. Microsoft Security Essentials does a
great job and is wayyy better than Windows Defender.


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Old May 2nd 10, 05:30 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
dinesh
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Default Windows Defender


I completely agree with Brink here. Microsoft Security Essentials does a
great job and is wayyy better than Windows Defender.


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Old May 2nd 10, 06:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
GrtArtiste
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Default Windows Defender

On May 2, 11:39*am, Brink wrote:
Hello GrtArtiste,

You might consider using "Microsoft Security Essentials" instead. It
will turn off and replace Windows Defender automatically during it's
installation. It provides much better virus, malware, and spyware
protection.

http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/

Hope this helps,
Shawn


I appreciate the reply, but unless there is some significant benefit
to using Microsoft Security Essentials over what I already have (Avira-
MBAM-SAS), I guess I'll stick with what is working now until it
doesn't. I was just hoping that WD could somehow be corrected...but I
guess not.

GrtArtiste
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Old May 2nd 10, 06:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
GrtArtiste
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Posts: 17
Default Windows Defender

On May 2, 11:39*am, Brink wrote:
Hello GrtArtiste,

You might consider using "Microsoft Security Essentials" instead. It
will turn off and replace Windows Defender automatically during it's
installation. It provides much better virus, malware, and spyware
protection.

http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/

Hope this helps,
Shawn


I appreciate the reply, but unless there is some significant benefit
to using Microsoft Security Essentials over what I already have (Avira-
MBAM-SAS), I guess I'll stick with what is working now until it
doesn't. I was just hoping that WD could somehow be corrected...but I
guess not.

GrtArtiste
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Old May 2nd 10, 07:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
Brink
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Posts: 3,267
Default Windows Defender


Microsoft Security Essentials is the replacement (correction) for
Windows Defender in Vista and Windows 7 to be used instead from
Microsoft.

As far as a benefit, it's just another layer of security to help protect
you. Since not all scanners detect everything, it's usually best to have
a few layers to help detect something one of the others may not.

It's up to you, but you might give it a try to see how you like it. You
can always just uninstall later if you should decide to.



GrtArtiste;1260618 Wrote:
On May 2, 11:39*am, Brink wrote:
Hello GrtArtiste,

You might consider using "Microsoft Security Essentials" instead. It
will turn off and replace Windows Defender automatically during it's
installation. It provides much better virus, malware, and spyware
protection.

http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/

Hope this helps,
Shawn


I appreciate the reply, but unless there is some significant benefit
to using Microsoft Security Essentials over what I already have
(Avira-
MBAM-SAS), I guess I'll stick with what is working now until it
doesn't. I was just hoping that WD could somehow be corrected...but I
guess not.

GrtArtiste



--
Brink

'*MS MVP - Windows Desktop Experience 2009 - 2010*'
(https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...5-AD617AF3D511)
*There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask
them.*
'*Windows 8 Forums*' (http://www.eightforums.com/) - '*Windows 7
Forums*' (http://www.sevenforums.com/) - '*Windows Vista Forums*'
(http://www.vistax64.com/)

*Please post feedback to help others.*
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Old May 2nd 10, 07:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
Brink
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Posts: 3,267
Default Windows Defender



Microsoft Security Essentials is the replacement (correction) for
Windows Defender in Vista and Windows 7 to be used instead from
Microsoft.

As far as a benefit, it's just another layer of security to help protect
you. Since not all scanners detect everything, it's usually best to have
a few layers to help detect something one of the others may not.

It's up to you, but you might give it a try to see how you like it. You
can always just uninstall later if you should decide to.



GrtArtiste;1260618 Wrote:
On May 2, 11:39*am, Brink wrote:
Hello GrtArtiste,

You might consider using "Microsoft Security Essentials" instead. It
will turn off and replace Windows Defender automatically during it's
installation. It provides much better virus, malware, and spyware
protection.

http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/

Hope this helps,
Shawn


I appreciate the reply, but unless there is some significant benefit
to using Microsoft Security Essentials over what I already have
(Avira-
MBAM-SAS), I guess I'll stick with what is working now until it
doesn't. I was just hoping that WD could somehow be corrected...but I
guess not.

GrtArtiste



--
Brink

'*MS MVP - Windows Desktop Experience 2009 - 2010*'
(https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...5-AD617AF3D511)
*There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask
them.*
'*Windows 8 Forums*' (http://www.eightforums.com/) - '*Windows 7
Forums*' (http://www.sevenforums.com/) - '*Windows Vista Forums*'
(http://www.vistax64.com/)

*Please post feedback to help others.*
  #10 (permalink)  
Old May 2nd 10, 10:14 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
GrtArtiste
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Posts: 17
Default Windows Defender

On May 2, 3:53*pm, Brink wrote:
Microsoft Security Essentials is the replacement (correction) for
Windows Defender in Vista and Windows 7 to be used instead from
Microsoft.

As far as a benefit, it's just another layer of security to help protect
you. Since not all scanners detect everything, it's usually best to have
a few layers to help detect something one of the others may not.

It's up to you, but you might give it a try to see how you like it. You
can always just uninstall later if you should decide to.


If MSE is an anti-virus, I'd have to uninstall Avira to use it...yes?
One wonders why anyone bothers to update WD and pretend that it's
still useful if MSE is being promoted as it's replacement
(correction).

GrtArtiste

 




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