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Using Windows Mail in Windows & - $%#$$%#@! MS ruined it!



 
 
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Old May 17th 10, 12:43 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.mail
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"Gary VanderMolen [MVP]" wrote in message
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Note that there is a good likelihood that future Win7 updates will continue
to 'break' Windows Mail, which is no longer supported by Microsoft.

Prophet of doom!!

This one was beaten off.

Bring it on :-))


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MS-MVP. MAIL. [DTS] UK.
http://www.getsafeonline.org/

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Old May 19th 10, 12:02 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windows.vista.mail
Steve Cochran
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"Stubbo of Oz" wrote in message ...
On Sat, 15 May 2010 08:04:02 -0400, "Steve Cochran"
wrote:

I posted this in this newsgroup less than 12 hours before you posted. Next time read the messages and you will find an answer.

Snip ....................


Steve - sorry I missed your previous post - I had already deleted old
ones before I struck my problem and googling did not seem to come up
with anything - maybe I phrased my Google query wrongly :-(

You said in earlier post that you are working on a page "how to use OE
or WinMail in Win7". I hope you will post a link to it here when it
becomes available,


Yes. One option involves running XP in Virtual mode and then one can use OE from the Virtual machine. One can actually clone one's old XP machine and run it as an application from the Win7 Desktop. Its quite easy. See http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../ee656415.aspx

steve



Cheers .............


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Old May 19th 10, 12:08 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.mail
Steve Cochran
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Default Using Windows Mail in Windows & - $%#$$%#@! MS ruined it!

Hey, Get with the Program!

steve

" mac" wrote in message ...

"Gary VanderMolen [MVP]" wrote in message
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Note that there is a good likelihood that future Win7 updates will continue
to 'break' Windows Mail, which is no longer supported by Microsoft.

Prophet of doom!!

This one was beaten off.

Bring it on :-))


--
Regards Steve.
MS-MVP. MAIL. [DTS] UK.
http://www.getsafeonline.org/

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Old May 20th 10, 04:04 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windows.vista.mail
Bob Kulp
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"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
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I posted this in this newsgroup less than 12 hours before you posted.
Next time read the messages and you will find an answer.


Recently a patch (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/978542) was released
that addressed a security issue in Windows Mail. Those using Windows Mail
in Windows 7 found that Windows Mail no longer functioned properly, as
they had hacked the program by replacing the msoe.dll file with one from
Vista, thereby de-crippling Windows Mail so it would then function as
client application. When the update was applied, the hacked msoe.dll was
replaced by a new Windows 7 version of the dll, which again crippled
Windows Mail.

The obvious solution was to replace the dll with the Vista dll again,
which then restored the functionality. However, replacing the Win7
patched dll with the Vista unpatched dll, resorts in ther user being
subject to the security vulnerability. The user would be more likely to
have protection against the vulnerability, if they used the patched Vista
msoe.dll (although there is no guarantee that that version will in fact
protect in Win7, as the scenario is untested).

Some have posted links to non-Microsoft websites in order for those who
wish to obtain the patched Vista versions of the msoe.dll. However, one
can question the security of such websites and the files they provide as
well as consider that Microsoft does not support distribution of its dlls.

Consequently, it is best if the user obtains the patched dlls from
Microsoft directly. For the given KB article referenced above, the files
can be downloaded he

http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...spx?q=kb978542

To extract the dlls from the downloaded files see:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928636

In the future, this situation will occur everytime Windows Mail is patched
in Windows 7, as msoe.dll will be replaced each time. So in the future,
anyone who is hacking Windows 7 by replacing msoe.dll from Vista, will
continue to have to get the patched version of the Vista dll and replace
it, as in this situation.

steve

MS-MVP
Outlook Express / Windows Mail


"Stubbo of Oz" wrote in message
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I have been using Windows Mail (copied from Vista) in my Windows 7
computer for nearly 6 months without any problems.

Now, since Windows update KB978542 was installed a couple of days ago
it has stopped working.

It appears as a running program in Windows Task manager but the user
interface never appears.

I have done a System Restore to before KB978542 and Windows Mail
started working OK again, Repeated this three time so I have no doubt
that it is KB978542 that has buggered it up.

Has anyone else using Windows Mail in Windows 7 had this experience?

Are MS purposely disabling Windows Mail in Windows 7 just to show us
that they can and to stop us using it?

Oh well, I guess I will have to try #$&*(#$ Windows Live Mail again
:-(

And before someone says "use Thunderbird" Ii don't like that either!!




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I am not having a problem with Windows Mail in Windows 7 64 bit after
applying KB978542, but upon checking I find that I have msoe.dll dated
3/4/2010 size 1.582 KB. Is this an infected module?

Bob

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Old May 20th 10, 09:59 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windows.vista.mail
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" mac" wrote in message
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Windows Mail, or Windows LIVE Mail?


Wrong thread, please ignore.


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