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Norton Internet Security 2010 compatibility problem?



 
 
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Old September 9th 10, 02:04 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop,microsoft.public.windows.vista.mail
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Default Norton Internet Security 2010 compatibility problem?

Does Microsoft Security Essentials scan the files related to
newsgroups posts for Windows Mail and Windows Live
Mail? If so does it cause any problems if both Microsoft
Security Essentials and Windows Mail or Windows Live
Mail are running at the same time?

Does it even need to scan the *.nws files? Why or why not?

Robert Miles

"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
At least we agree on that. G

Its too bad that others don't consider that some users don't have the same
pleasant experience with Norton as they do. Just wait until they lose
their messages.

steve

"Gary VanderMolen (MVP)" wrote in message
...
I'm with you, Steve. I lost faith in Norton/Symantec somewhere around
2003.
Like you, I've had to assist thousands of users who ran into problems
using
their security software. I don't care how much they've improved. There
are
better alternatives.

Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)


"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...

People can extoll the virtues of Norton as much as they want to. I have
dealt with computer problems caused by Norton and
Symantec programs for over 10 years and those issues have been ignored by
Symantec. Thousands of users have lost messages because
of Symantec. I don't care if they are improved. They will never get my
support and I will uninstall the crap before ever using a
computer that has it on it. They are interested in $$$$ only just as is
MS and their concern for the user stops after the user
has purchased the software.

So, the lovers of Norton can tell one how great it is, but those of us
who have had to help users over the years know to stay away
from the POS.

steve

"Victek" wrote in message
...
"osu9400" wrote in message
...
Drop NIS now and immediately install Microsoft Security Essentials.
Free,
lightweight, efficient, and it never expires. Your computer will thank
you.

NIS is so wide reaching it is nearly impossible to uninstall. It's so
gnarly that Symantec actually makes a removal tool available on their
website.
.
Regarding the difficulty of uninstalling NIS, are you referring to the
current version? The uninstall was greatly improved in 2009/2010. It
is
now very fast and so far I've not needed to use the Norton Removal Tool.
You are quite right that this were serious problems for versions Pre
2009.
It's worth noting though that vendor "removal tools" for security
software
are not uncommon. Symantec is not unique in offering the Norton Removal
Tool.







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Old September 9th 10, 04:59 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop,microsoft.public.windows.vista.mail
Gary VanderMolen
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Default Norton Internet Security 2010 compatibility problem?

I run Windows Mail, Windows Live Mail, and MSE at the same time,
no problems. MSE does no live scanning of incoming or outgoing
messages, but it checks them during scheduled periodic scans,
and when messages are opened or saved.

Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
------------------------------------------------------

wrote in message ...

Does Microsoft Security Essentials scan the files related to
newsgroups posts for Windows Mail and Windows Live
Mail? If so does it cause any problems if both Microsoft
Security Essentials and Windows Mail or Windows Live
Mail are running at the same time?

Does it even need to scan the *.nws files? Why or why not?

Robert Miles

"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
At least we agree on that. G

Its too bad that others don't consider that some users don't have the same pleasant experience with Norton as they do. Just
wait until they lose their messages.

steve

"Gary VanderMolen (MVP)" wrote in message ...
I'm with you, Steve. I lost faith in Norton/Symantec somewhere around 2003.
Like you, I've had to assist thousands of users who ran into problems using
their security software. I don't care how much they've improved. There are
better alternatives.

Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)


"Steve Cochran" wrote in message ...

People can extoll the virtues of Norton as much as they want to. I have dealt with computer problems caused by Norton and
Symantec programs for over 10 years and those issues have been ignored by Symantec. Thousands of users have lost messages
because
of Symantec. I don't care if they are improved. They will never get my support and I will uninstall the crap before ever
using a
computer that has it on it. They are interested in $$$$ only just as is MS and their concern for the user stops after the user
has purchased the software.

So, the lovers of Norton can tell one how great it is, but those of us who have had to help users over the years know to stay
away
from the POS.

steve

"Victek" wrote in message ...
"osu9400" wrote in message ...
Drop NIS now and immediately install Microsoft Security Essentials. Free,
lightweight, efficient, and it never expires. Your computer will thank
you.

NIS is so wide reaching it is nearly impossible to uninstall. It's so
gnarly that Symantec actually makes a removal tool available on their
website.
.
Regarding the difficulty of uninstalling NIS, are you referring to the
current version? The uninstall was greatly improved in 2009/2010. It is
now very fast and so far I've not needed to use the Norton Removal Tool.
You are quite right that this were serious problems for versions Pre 2009.
It's worth noting though that vendor "removal tools" for security software
are not uncommon. Symantec is not unique in offering the Norton Removal
Tool.






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Old September 9th 10, 06:08 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop,microsoft.public.windows.vista.mail
...winston
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Posts: 242
Default Norton Internet Security 2010 compatibility problem?

The need to scan newsgroup files is probably as diverse as the number of available newsgroups...though it would would seem that 'certain' newsgroups would rank higher than others in one's personal 'need to scan' equation.
--
....winston
ms-mvp mail

wrote in message ...

Does it even need to scan the *.nws files? Why or why not?

Robert Miles

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Old September 9th 10, 11:07 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop,microsoft.public.windows.vista.mail
Steve Cochran
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Posts: 5,312
Default Norton Internet Security 2010 compatibility problem?

Under Settings in MSE one can disable certain file types, including eml and nws. MSE does not remove spam. If you delete a message from the message store without making a corresponding removal of the reference to the message in the database, then there will be a mismatch in that the database will still think the message is present when in fact it has been deleted. This screws up the functionality of the messaging program, be it WinMail or Walmail. In OE it would result in destruction or corruption of the dbx file and the user often would find that all the messages in the folder are gone. cf. point #3 he www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3

steve

wrote in message ...
Does Microsoft Security Essentials scan the files related to
newsgroups posts for Windows Mail and Windows Live
Mail? If so does it cause any problems if both Microsoft
Security Essentials and Windows Mail or Windows Live
Mail are running at the same time?

Does it even need to scan the *.nws files? Why or why not?

Robert Miles

"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...
At least we agree on that. G

Its too bad that others don't consider that some users don't have the same
pleasant experience with Norton as they do. Just wait until they lose
their messages.

steve

"Gary VanderMolen (MVP)" wrote in message
...
I'm with you, Steve. I lost faith in Norton/Symantec somewhere around
2003.
Like you, I've had to assist thousands of users who ran into problems
using
their security software. I don't care how much they've improved. There
are
better alternatives.

Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)


"Steve Cochran" wrote in message
...

People can extoll the virtues of Norton as much as they want to. I have
dealt with computer problems caused by Norton and
Symantec programs for over 10 years and those issues have been ignored by
Symantec. Thousands of users have lost messages because
of Symantec. I don't care if they are improved. They will never get my
support and I will uninstall the crap before ever using a
computer that has it on it. They are interested in $$$$ only just as is
MS and their concern for the user stops after the user
has purchased the software.

So, the lovers of Norton can tell one how great it is, but those of us
who have had to help users over the years know to stay away
from the POS.

steve

"Victek" wrote in message
...
"osu9400" wrote in message
...
Drop NIS now and immediately install Microsoft Security Essentials.
Free,
lightweight, efficient, and it never expires. Your computer will thank
you.

NIS is so wide reaching it is nearly impossible to uninstall. It's so
gnarly that Symantec actually makes a removal tool available on their
website.
.
Regarding the difficulty of uninstalling NIS, are you referring to the
current version? The uninstall was greatly improved in 2009/2010. It
is
now very fast and so far I've not needed to use the Norton Removal Tool.
You are quite right that this were serious problems for versions Pre
2009.
It's worth noting though that vendor "removal tools" for security
software
are not uncommon. Symantec is not unique in offering the Norton Removal
Tool.







 




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