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Well that sucks!!!
On 1/23/12 6:07 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On 1/23/2012, Ken Springer posted: On 1/23/12 5:03 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote: Possibly there's a tool or two available somewhere to facilitate the process. I have no idea, I'm just speculating. Take a look at Mozbackup. http://kb.mozillazine.org/MozBackup Only works on Windows. :-( Thankee. I should have remembered that - I used it to transfer stuff here from my previous machine, but that was way in the past - six or eight months :-) Next thing you know *I'll* be asking for help with this... :-) For the OP - IIRC, MozBackup can back up either or both Thunderbird and Firefox, as you choose when running it. When I hit the road, and use my Win7 netbook instead of the iMac, I just track down profiles.ini and the profiles folder, and move them between the computers. -- Ken Mac OS X 10.6.8 Firefox 9.0.1 Thunderbird 9.0.1 LibreOffice 3.4.4 |
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"Ken Springer" wrote in message
... On 1/23/12 2:00 PM, pjp wrote: I'm thinking of installing Outlook which I normally leave out of my Office installs. I assume it'll still do it as wife seems to use it fine under Win7 for her hotmail account. Unless things have changed, Outlook does not do newsgroups. For OE2007, it connects to newsgroups using Win Mail. -- Ken Mac OS X 10.6.8 Firefox 9.0.1 Thunderbird 9.0.1 LibreOffice 3.4.4 Yea, got Outlook up and going with Hotmail using Connector and then find it doesn't do newsgroups ... argh!!! |
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"pjp" wrote in message
... "Ken Springer" wrote in message ... On 1/23/12 2:00 PM, pjp wrote: I'm thinking of installing Outlook which I normally leave out of my Office installs. I assume it'll still do it as wife seems to use it fine under Win7 for her hotmail account. Unless things have changed, Outlook does not do newsgroups. For OE2007, it connects to newsgroups using Win Mail. -- Ken Mac OS X 10.6.8 Firefox 9.0.1 Thunderbird 9.0.1 LibreOffice 3.4.4 Yea, got Outlook up and going with Hotmail using Connector and then find it doesn't do newsgroups ... argh!!! Oh well. I do have email now on newer Vitsta pc and I can monitor newsgroups also on same machine so guess I can live with it. I managed to get all my contacts into Outlook from OE but looks like I'll just have to backup all saved emails etc from OE and accept not being able to easily get them into Outlook. Ones I "need" to keep I'll just forward to myself from OE and pick them up in Outlook. Time will make most of them unnecessary. Outlook versus OE is a switch. Wonder why MS made names so similar when programs are so distinctly different. |
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pjp wrote:
Ok, newer pc been using so finally decide to move email over to it from laptop running XP to this pc running Vista and Windows Mail. Can't set it up to access my Hotmail account like could in XP, e.g. same as isp's email server, e.g. POP3 and SMTP. What f'ing crap!!! What the hell was wrong with leaving it in and why if I can't do what I want with this the included email program (Win Mail) do I have to spend time and effort to remove the useless .... Argh, I don't want to separate email and news into two separate programs when I've been doing it way worked just fine for years. And it wouldn't be Windows Live anyway!!! I hate web based email. Just a rant!!! It's SO SO SO EXPECTED from MS for years now. I haven't had any problem using windows mail for both email and newsgroups, and have had no problems using it to access all my amail accounts. I did hasve to play with it a bit to get it to look similar on the screen. |
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"Bob F" wrote in message
... pjp wrote: Ok, newer pc been using so finally decide to move email over to it from laptop running XP to this pc running Vista and Windows Mail. Can't set it up to access my Hotmail account like could in XP, e.g. same as isp's email server, e.g. POP3 and SMTP. What f'ing crap!!! What the hell was wrong with leaving it in and why if I can't do what I want with this the included email program (Win Mail) do I have to spend time and effort to remove the useless .... Argh, I don't want to separate email and news into two separate programs when I've been doing it way worked just fine for years. And it wouldn't be Windows Live anyway!!! I hate web based email. Just a rant!!! It's SO SO SO EXPECTED from MS for years now. I haven't had any problem using windows mail for both email and newsgroups, and have had no problems using it to access all my amail accounts. I did have to play with it a bit to get it to look similar on the screen. Was no problem using XP but are you running Vista? If so, how are you getting Windows Mail to access Hotmail? I can get it to work for my other regular ISP email accounts that are POP3 but for Hotmail it just locks me out not giving opportunity to fill in any blanks. What I ended up doing was installing Outlook from my Office suite, then the Outlook Connecter to access all my email accounts and use Windows Mail for just the newsgroups. Works but really annoying MS just changes things for changes sake itself sometimes. |
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pjp wrote:
"Bob F" wrote in message ... pjp wrote: Ok, newer pc been using so finally decide to move email over to it from laptop running XP to this pc running Vista and Windows Mail. Can't set it up to access my Hotmail account like could in XP, e.g. same as isp's email server, e.g. POP3 and SMTP. What f'ing crap!!! What the hell was wrong with leaving it in and why if I can't do what I want with this the included email program (Win Mail) do I have to spend time and effort to remove the useless .... Argh, I don't want to separate email and news into two separate programs when I've been doing it way worked just fine for years. And it wouldn't be Windows Live anyway!!! I hate web based email. Just a rant!!! It's SO SO SO EXPECTED from MS for years now. I haven't had any problem using windows mail for both email and newsgroups, and have had no problems using it to access all my amail accounts. I did have to play with it a bit to get it to look similar on the screen. Was no problem using XP but are you running Vista? If so, how are you getting Windows Mail to access Hotmail? I can get it to work for my other regular ISP email accounts that are POP3 but for Hotmail it just locks me out not giving opportunity to fill in any blanks. I don't use hotmail. Hotmail doesn't "speak" pop3? |
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"Bob F" wrote in message
... pjp wrote: "Bob F" wrote in message ... pjp wrote: Ok, newer pc been using so finally decide to move email over to it from laptop running XP to this pc running Vista and Windows Mail. Can't set it up to access my Hotmail account like could in XP, e.g. same as isp's email server, e.g. POP3 and SMTP. What f'ing crap!!! What the hell was wrong with leaving it in and why if I can't do what I want with this the included email program (Win Mail) do I have to spend time and effort to remove the useless .... Argh, I don't want to separate email and news into two separate programs when I've been doing it way worked just fine for years. And it wouldn't be Windows Live anyway!!! I hate web based email. Just a rant!!! It's SO SO SO EXPECTED from MS for years now. I haven't had any problem using windows mail for both email and newsgroups, and have had no problems using it to access all my amail accounts. I did have to play with it a bit to get it to look similar on the screen. Was no problem using XP but are you running Vista? If so, how are you getting Windows Mail to access Hotmail? I can get it to work for my other regular ISP email accounts that are POP3 but for Hotmail it just locks me out not giving opportunity to fill in any blanks. I don't use hotmail. Hotmail doesn't "speak" pop3? Hotmail does "speak" POP3 as I have/had no problems accesing it using Outlook Express under XP. I believe it's because I've had the account so long as I seem to remember years ago them eliminating access that way to new signups. I'm unsure if that was actually the case and if it still is. It appears the "new" Windows Mail in Vista that replaces Outlook Express specifically locks out entering certain types of email addresses. The little research I did implies they didn't build into it the ability to utilize web based email. They seem to have done this by simply parsing the entered email address even though that seems way to simplistic. However, that completely ignores cases like mine where I can use a POP3 access method with hotmail because the minute I enter the server address (which I must) it throws up the "no no". Just stupid but as mentioned in my case I just added Outlook to my installed Office suite, installed the "Hotmail Connector" I already knew about because we had to go through a similar episode with wife's Win7 pc and I have both news reader and email on the one pc. |
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pjp,
Try the following. When you create the Hotmail acct through the POP Mail acct wizard, don't use , but , or . You will change it after setting up the rest of the account settings. As I previously posted. One of my Hotmail accts was set up before 2006 change, and the other was set up in 2010. Both work with the Following settings: In WLM: Hotmail Acct Settings: Server Tab: POP Server: pop3.live.com SMTP Server: smtp.live.com Advanced tab: Outgoing Server Port: 587 Incoming Server Port: 995 SSL Checked for both ports -- Rich/rerat (RRR News) (message rule) ((Previous Text Snipped to Save Bandwidth When Appropriate)) "pjp" wrote in message ... "Bob F" wrote in message ... pjp wrote: "Bob F" wrote in message ... pjp wrote: Ok, newer pc been using so finally decide to move email over to it from laptop running XP to this pc running Vista and Windows Mail. Can't set it up to access my Hotmail account like could in XP, e.g. same as isp's email server, e.g. POP3 and SMTP. What f'ing crap!!! What the hell was wrong with leaving it in and why if I can't do what I want with this the included email program (Win Mail) do I have to spend time and effort to remove the useless .... Argh, I don't want to separate email and news into two separate programs when I've been doing it way worked just fine for years. And it wouldn't be Windows Live anyway!!! I hate web based email. Just a rant!!! It's SO SO SO EXPECTED from MS for years now. I haven't had any problem using windows mail for both email and newsgroups, and have had no problems using it to access all my amail accounts. I did have to play with it a bit to get it to look similar on the screen. Was no problem using XP but are you running Vista? If so, how are you getting Windows Mail to access Hotmail? I can get it to work for my other regular ISP email accounts that are POP3 but for Hotmail it just locks me out not giving opportunity to fill in any blanks. I don't use hotmail. Hotmail doesn't "speak" pop3? Hotmail does "speak" POP3 as I have/had no problems accesing it using Outlook Express under XP. I believe it's because I've had the account so long as I seem to remember years ago them eliminating access that way to new signups. I'm unsure if that was actually the case and if it still is. It appears the "new" Windows Mail in Vista that replaces Outlook Express specifically locks out entering certain types of email addresses. The little research I did implies they didn't build into it the ability to utilize web based email. They seem to have done this by simply parsing the entered email address even though that seems way to simplistic. However, that completely ignores cases like mine where I can use a POP3 access method with hotmail because the minute I enter the server address (which I must) it throws up the "no no". Just stupid but as mentioned in my case I just added Outlook to my installed Office suite, installed the "Hotmail Connector" I already knew about because we had to go through a similar episode with wife's Win7 pc and I have both news reader and email on the one pc. |
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