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Expired cirtificate errors FireFox and IE (Vista 32 bit)



 
 
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Old September 13th 14, 02:27 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Default Expired cirtificate errors FireFox and IE (Vista 32 bit)

R. H. Breener wrote:

"VanguardLH" wrote in message
...

So start the web browser in its safe mode to make sure ALL add-ons are
disabled, not just the ones that IE will show you.


brevity snip

Thanks for that info.

I thought I'd let you know when I tried a System Restore which failed, I
then tried a System Recovery. When I clicked to do a System Recovery the
computer failed completely. It kept telling me the disks for the Vista PC
were not authenticated (or some such) for that system. How can that be when
they came from HP and the second set were made from THAT HP computer itself?
It wouldn't go into safe mode. It said no disks could be found. The boot
disk didn't work either with an error it wasn't authenticated for that
system. WTF? The PC is sitting here totally worthless and was hardly used.
How the hell do I get it to recognize the Recovery disks or the boot disk?


Some install CDs are BIOS locked. That means you have to use the
correct media to install on that hardware. The installer locks at the
firmware signature from the BIOS to see it the hardware is within a
family of products that the software will match. So you have to use the
install media that came with the computer. If you buy some oddball
"reinstallation" CD from, say, eBay then it might not work with the
hardware that you have. All those resinstallation discs are illegal but
eBay lets the sellers get away with selling them because eBay gets their
13% commission on the sale. Those discs are for reinstalls, not for new
installs which is what they're being sold for.

So was the first set of install CDs the ones that came with the
computer? Were the 2nd ones made using the procedure specified in the
terse owner's manual that came with the computer (probably on CD)?

"not authenticated (or some such)" covers every error every reported by
anyone for anything. It's like saying "I think it's this or something"
where the "something" covers everything else. If the authentication
problem is when trying to validate the installation by entering a
product key then it could be the product key on the COA sticker doesn't
match the product being installed. The COA sticker's product key is
unique to each pre-built computer; however, the product key in the image
the OEM'er slaps onto every host has the same volume key used to
pre-validate that image (you don't have to do validation when you get
the pre-built computer with pre-installed OS and software). A clear
report of what was the actual error message would help.

Did you get this computer as a pre-built? Was the OS pre-installed?
Was the installation media what came with the pre-built computer or did
you somehow get it separately?

Isn't there a hidden recovery partition on the hard disk? If so, you're
supposed to hit some special key on bootup that tells the BIOS to load
the recovery program from the hidden partition to restore the OS
partition back to its factory-time image. Did you delete that hidden
partition to make use of its disk space for your own use?
  #12 (permalink)  
Old September 14th 14, 07:00 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
R. H. Breener[_2_]
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Posts: 11
Default Expired cirtificate errors FireFox and IE (Vista 32 bit)


"David H. Lipman" wrote in message
...
From: "R. H. Breener"


"VanguardLH" wrote in message
...

So start the web browser in its safe mode to make sure ALL add-ons are
disabled, not just the ones that IE will show you.


brevity snip

Thanks for that info.

I thought I'd let you know when I tried a System Restore which failed, I
then tried a System Recovery. When I clicked to do a System Recovery the
computer failed completely. It kept telling me the disks for the Vista
PC were not authenticated (or some such) for that system. How can that be
when they came from HP and the second set were made from THAT HP computer
itself? It wouldn't go into safe mode. It said no disks could be found.
The boot disk didn't work either with an error it wasn't authenticated
for that system. WTF? The PC is sitting here totally worthless and was
hardly used. How the hell do I get it to recognize the Recovery disks or
the boot disk?


What was the OS and flavour ?


The OS is Vista 32 bit made by HP.


--
Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp


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Old September 14th 14, 07:23 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
R. H. Breener[_2_]
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Posts: 11
Default Expired cirtificate errors FireFox and IE (Vista 32 bit)


"VanguardLH" wrote in message
...
R. H. Breener wrote:

"VanguardLH" wrote in message
...

So start the web browser in its safe mode to make sure ALL add-ons are
disabled, not just the ones that IE will show you.


brevity snip

Thanks for that info.

I thought I'd let you know when I tried a System Restore which failed, I
then tried a System Recovery. When I clicked to do a System Recovery the
computer failed completely. It kept telling me the disks for the Vista
PC
were not authenticated (or some such) for that system. How can that be
when
they came from HP and the second set were made from THAT HP computer
itself?
It wouldn't go into safe mode. It said no disks could be found. The boot
disk didn't work either with an error it wasn't authenticated for that
system. WTF? The PC is sitting here totally worthless and was hardly
used.
How the hell do I get it to recognize the Recovery disks or the boot
disk?


Some install CDs are BIOS locked. That means you have to use the
correct media to install on that hardware. The installer locks at the
firmware signature from the BIOS to see it the hardware is within a
family of products that the software will match. So you have to use the
install media that came with the computer. If you buy some oddball
"reinstallation" CD from, say, eBay then it might not work with the
hardware that you have. All those resinstallation discs are illegal but
eBay lets the sellers get away with selling them because eBay gets their
13% commission on the sale. Those discs are for reinstalls, not for new
installs which is what they're being sold for.


These disks came from HP itself for the Vista 32-bit PC. The second set were
made on that computer when it was new. I never had a computer reject the
disks that it made itself or came from the company who made the PC. And I
never had one not boot with a boot disk.


So was the first set of install CDs the ones that came with the
computer? Were the 2nd ones made using the procedure specified in the
terse owner's manual that came with the computer (probably on CD)?


Yes, first set came with the PC. Second set was made on the PC.


"not authenticated (or some such)" covers every error every reported by
anyone for anything. It's like saying "I think it's this or something"
where the "something" covers everything else. If the authentication
problem is when trying to validate the installation by entering a
product key then it could be the product key on the COA sticker doesn't
match the product being installed.


Nothing comes up asking for the number.

The COA sticker's product key is
unique to each pre-built computer; however, the product key in the image
the OEM'er slaps onto every host has the same volume key used to
pre-validate that image (you don't have to do validation when you get
the pre-built computer with pre-installed OS and software). A clear
report of what was the actual error message would help.

Did you get this computer as a pre-built? Was the OS pre-installed?
Was the installation media what came with the pre-built computer or did
you somehow get it separately?


I bought it brand new from WalMart with the OS already installed. It ran
like a dream until one day it it started locking up and freezing. One
problem after another that a System Restore and System Recovery didn't help.
So I took it to a tech who claimed a memory stick was bad removed it, did a
System Recovery and it worked OK the few times I used it. Then the Browser
problem started and the other problems it had started again. I did a chkdsk
c: /f /r on it first and that seemed to help, but the problems quickly
returned. I don't believe this is a memory problem. Two sticks going bad on
a computer hardly used?


Isn't there a hidden recovery partition on the hard disk? If so, you're
supposed to hit some special key on bootup that tells the BIOS to load
the recovery program from the hidden partition to restore the OS
partition back to its factory-time image. Did you delete that hidden
partition to make use of its disk space for your own use?


No, it was still there. I didn't use the disks themselves until after D:
failed. D: has the Factory Image and the 1st thing I tried. After I tried
to do the System Recovery using D: , that's when the PC crashed, said System
Recovery failed and it never booted again. So I rounded up the Recovery
disks. The recovery disks and boot disk wouldn't work. I'm going to try
and reach that guy this week if I can. It kills me to crapcan a computer
that's essentially new, hardly used.

I don't know anything about the BIOS or making changes there. I may make the
situation worse. Honestly, I don't know what to do with it but would love
to get it working again. I never needed to enter the BIOS before to tell a
computer to do a System Recovery. A choice is given on a screen where you
use a block to move up or down using the arrow keys.

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Old September 14th 14, 01:05 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
David H. Lipman
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Default Expired cirtificate errors FireFox and IE (Vista 32 bit)

From: "R. H. Breener"


"David H. Lipman" wrote in message
...
From: "R. H. Breener"

"VanguardLH" wrote in message
...

So start the web browser in its safe mode to make sure ALL add-ons are
disabled, not just the ones that IE will show you.

brevity snip

Thanks for that info.

I thought I'd let you know when I tried a System Restore which failed, I
then tried a System Recovery. When I clicked to do a System Recovery
the computer failed completely. It kept telling me the disks for the
Vista PC were not authenticated (or some such) for that system. How can
that be when they came from HP and the second set were made from THAT HP
computer itself? It wouldn't go into safe mode. It said no disks could
be found. The boot disk didn't work either with an error it wasn't
authenticated for that system. WTF? The PC is sitting here totally
worthless and was hardly used. How the hell do I get it to recognize
the Recovery disks or the boot disk?


What was the OS and flavour ?


The OS is Vista 32 bit made by HP.


HP doesn't make Windows.

Vista/32 branded by HP.

The vendor is not the flavour. Vista; Starter, Home Basic, Home Premium,
Business, Enterprise and Ultimate are flavours of the 32bit OS.

You need to contact HP. Most likely you'll have to buy a disk or a set of
disks.


--
Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

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Old September 22nd 14, 08:30 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
R. H. Breener[_2_]
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Posts: 11
Default Expired cirtificate errors FireFox and IE (Vista 32 bit)


"David H. Lipman" wrote in message
...
From: "R. H. Breener"


"David H. Lipman" wrote in message
...
From: "R. H. Breener"

"VanguardLH" wrote in message
...

So start the web browser in its safe mode to make sure ALL add-ons are
disabled, not just the ones that IE will show you.

brevity snip

Thanks for that info.

I thought I'd let you know when I tried a System Restore which failed,
I then tried a System Recovery. When I clicked to do a System Recovery
the computer failed completely. It kept telling me the disks for the
Vista PC were not authenticated (or some such) for that system. How can
that be when they came from HP and the second set were made from THAT
HP computer itself? It wouldn't go into safe mode. It said no disks
could be found. The boot disk didn't work either with an error it
wasn't authenticated for that system. WTF? The PC is sitting here
totally worthless and was hardly used. How the hell do I get it to
recognize the Recovery disks or the boot disk?

What was the OS and flavour ?


The OS is Vista 32 bit made by HP.


HP doesn't make Windows.

Vista/32 branded by HP.

The vendor is not the flavour. Vista; Starter, Home Basic, Home Premium,
Business, Enterprise and Ultimate are flavours of the 32bit OS.

You need to contact HP. Most likely you'll have to buy a disk or a set of
disks.


Home Premium. I think the computer is a goner. I called the tech, now back
at his regular job and no longer doing this on the side at home. He said he
added a second HD, a Seagate, and made the old drive the slave. That's why
he had to contact MS for a Reg number. He kind of lost me there. Why would
he need a new Reg # when he had the original disks, both sets? He felt
beside the memory stick being bad the original HD may have had problems
also. But the new Seagate drive had the same damn problems. He had me
remove the Seagate but that didn't make any difference. Then he had me
remove the orig' HD and that made no difference either. The boot disk for
the machine will not boot up either HD. Where does this leave me? What are
my options now?




--
Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp


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Old September 22nd 14, 08:25 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
David H. Lipman
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Posts: 474
Default Expired cirtificate errors FireFox and IE (Vista 32 bit)

From: "R. H. Breener"


"David H. Lipman" wrote in message
...
From: "R. H. Breener"

"David H. Lipman" wrote in message
...
From: "R. H. Breener"

"VanguardLH" wrote in message
...

So start the web browser in its safe mode to make sure ALL add-ons
are
disabled, not just the ones that IE will show you.

brevity snip

Thanks for that info.

I thought I'd let you know when I tried a System Restore which failed,
I then tried a System Recovery. When I clicked to do a System
Recovery the computer failed completely. It kept telling me the disks
for the Vista PC were not authenticated (or some such) for that
system. How can that be when they came from HP and the second set were
made from THAT HP computer itself? It wouldn't go into safe mode. It
said no disks could be found. The boot disk didn't work either with an
error it wasn't authenticated for that system. WTF? The PC is sitting
here totally worthless and was hardly used. How the hell do I get it
to recognize the Recovery disks or the boot disk?

What was the OS and flavour ?

The OS is Vista 32 bit made by HP.

HP doesn't make Windows.

Vista/32 branded by HP.

The vendor is not the flavour. Vista; Starter, Home Basic, Home Premium,
Business, Enterprise and Ultimate are flavours of the 32bit OS.

You need to contact HP. Most likely you'll have to buy a disk or a set
of disks.


Home Premium. I think the computer is a goner. I called the tech, now back
at his regular job and no longer doing this on the side at home. He said
he added a second HD, a Seagate, and made the old drive the slave. That's
why he had to contact MS for a Reg number. He kind of lost me there. Why
would he need a new Reg # when he had the original disks, both sets? He
felt beside the memory stick being bad the original HD may have had
problems also. But the new Seagate drive had the same damn problems. He
had me remove the Seagate but that didn't make any difference. Then he had
me remove the orig' HD and that made no difference either. The boot disk
for the machine will not boot up either HD. Where does this leave me?
What are my options now?


The COA should be a sticker on the computer and thus you have a valid Vista
keycode. You don't need another, you need the platform related installation
disks.


--
Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

  #17 (permalink)  
Old September 25th 14, 08:43 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
R. H. Breener[_2_]
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Posts: 11
Default Expired cirtificate errors FireFox and IE (Vista 32 bit)


"David H. Lipman" wrote in message
...
From: "R. H. Breener"


"David H. Lipman" wrote in message
...
From: "R. H. Breener"

"David H. Lipman" wrote in message
...
From: "R. H. Breener"

"VanguardLH" wrote in message
...

So start the web browser in its safe mode to make sure ALL add-ons
are
disabled, not just the ones that IE will show you.

brevity snip

Thanks for that info.

I thought I'd let you know when I tried a System Restore which
failed, I then tried a System Recovery. When I clicked to do a
System Recovery the computer failed completely. It kept telling me
the disks for the Vista PC were not authenticated (or some such) for
that system. How can that be when they came from HP and the second
set were made from THAT HP computer itself? It wouldn't go into safe
mode. It said no disks could be found. The boot disk didn't work
either with an error it wasn't authenticated for that system. WTF?
The PC is sitting here totally worthless and was hardly used. How the
hell do I get it to recognize the Recovery disks or the boot disk?

What was the OS and flavour ?

The OS is Vista 32 bit made by HP.

HP doesn't make Windows.

Vista/32 branded by HP.

The vendor is not the flavour. Vista; Starter, Home Basic, Home
Premium, Business, Enterprise and Ultimate are flavours of the 32bit OS.

You need to contact HP. Most likely you'll have to buy a disk or a set
of disks.


Home Premium. I think the computer is a goner. I called the tech, now
back at his regular job and no longer doing this on the side at home. He
said he added a second HD, a Seagate, and made the old drive the slave.
That's why he had to contact MS for a Reg number. He kind of lost me
there. Why would he need a new Reg # when he had the original disks,
both sets? He felt beside the memory stick being bad the original HD may
have had problems also. But the new Seagate drive had the same damn
problems. He had me remove the Seagate but that didn't make any
difference. Then he had me remove the orig' HD and that made no
difference either. The boot disk for the machine will not boot up either
HD. Where does this leave me? What are my options now?


The COA should be a sticker on the computer and thus you have a valid
Vista keycode. You don't need another, you need the platform related
installation disks.


Where do I get those? The Vista Recovery disks for the computer came from
HP itself and one set was made from the computer. It has to be a valid key
code so why would he need to call MS? Why wont either HD boot with the
Recovery disks or the boot disk?

Googling the term "platform related installation
disks" brought up info I didn't understand.



--
Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp


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Old September 25th 14, 11:39 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
David H. Lipman
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Posts: 474
Default Expired cirtificate errors FireFox and IE (Vista 32 bit)

From: "R. H. Breener"


"David H. Lipman" wrote in message
...
From: "R. H. Breener"

"David H. Lipman" wrote in message
...
From: "R. H. Breener"

"David H. Lipman" wrote in message
...
From: "R. H. Breener"

"VanguardLH" wrote in message
...

So start the web browser in its safe mode to make sure ALL add-ons
are
disabled, not just the ones that IE will show you.

brevity snip

Thanks for that info.

I thought I'd let you know when I tried a System Restore which
failed, I then tried a System Recovery. When I clicked to do a
System Recovery the computer failed completely. It kept telling me
the disks for the Vista PC were not authenticated (or some such) for
that system. How can that be when they came from HP and the second
set were made from THAT HP computer itself? It wouldn't go into safe
mode. It said no disks could be found. The boot disk didn't work
either with an error it wasn't authenticated for that system. WTF?
The PC is sitting here totally worthless and was hardly used. How
the hell do I get it to recognize the Recovery disks or the boot
disk?

What was the OS and flavour ?

The OS is Vista 32 bit made by HP.

HP doesn't make Windows.

Vista/32 branded by HP.

The vendor is not the flavour. Vista; Starter, Home Basic, Home
Premium, Business, Enterprise and Ultimate are flavours of the 32bit
OS.

You need to contact HP. Most likely you'll have to buy a disk or a set
of disks.

Home Premium. I think the computer is a goner. I called the tech, now
back at his regular job and no longer doing this on the side at home. He
said he added a second HD, a Seagate, and made the old drive the slave.
That's why he had to contact MS for a Reg number. He kind of lost me
there. Why would he need a new Reg # when he had the original disks,
both sets? He felt beside the memory stick being bad the original HD
may have had problems also. But the new Seagate drive had the same damn
problems. He had me remove the Seagate but that didn't make any
difference. Then he had me remove the orig' HD and that made no
difference either. The boot disk for the machine will not boot up either
HD. Where does this leave me? What are my options now?

The COA should be a sticker on the computer and thus you have a valid
Vista keycode. You don't need another, you need the platform related
installation disks.


Where do I get those? The Vista Recovery disks for the computer came from
HP itself and one set was made from the computer. It has to be a valid
key code so why would he need to call MS? Why wont either HD boot with the
Recovery disks or the boot disk?

Googling the term "platform related installation
disks" brought up info I didn't understand.


You get it/them from HP.

You tell them you removed a bad hard disk and replaced it. You need to
re-install Vista on the PC so you will need the disks to do it.

You may have to pay a nominal fee for shipping and handling for the media.


--
Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

  #19 (permalink)  
Old October 14th 14, 05:20 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
R. H. Breener[_2_]
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"David H. Lipman" wrote in message
...
From: "R. H. Breener"


"David H. Lipman" wrote in message
...
From: "R. H. Breener"

"David H. Lipman" wrote in message
...
From: "R. H. Breener"

"David H. Lipman" wrote in message
...
From: "R. H. Breener"

"VanguardLH" wrote in message
...

So start the web browser in its safe mode to make sure ALL add-ons
are
disabled, not just the ones that IE will show you.

brevity snip

Thanks for that info.

I thought I'd let you know when I tried a System Restore which
failed, I then tried a System Recovery. When I clicked to do a
System Recovery the computer failed completely. It kept telling me
the disks for the Vista PC were not authenticated (or some such)
for that system. How can that be when they came from HP and the
second set were made from THAT HP computer itself? It wouldn't go
into safe mode. It said no disks could be found. The boot disk
didn't work either with an error it wasn't authenticated for that
system. WTF? The PC is sitting here totally worthless and was
hardly used. How the hell do I get it to recognize the Recovery
disks or the boot disk?

What was the OS and flavour ?

The OS is Vista 32 bit made by HP.

HP doesn't make Windows.

Vista/32 branded by HP.

The vendor is not the flavour. Vista; Starter, Home Basic, Home
Premium, Business, Enterprise and Ultimate are flavours of the 32bit
OS.

You need to contact HP. Most likely you'll have to buy a disk or a
set of disks.

Home Premium. I think the computer is a goner. I called the tech, now
back at his regular job and no longer doing this on the side at home.
He said he added a second HD, a Seagate, and made the old drive the
slave. That's why he had to contact MS for a Reg number. He kind of
lost me there. Why would he need a new Reg # when he had the original
disks, both sets? He felt beside the memory stick being bad the
original HD may have had problems also. But the new Seagate drive had
the same damn problems. He had me remove the Seagate but that didn't
make any difference. Then he had me remove the orig' HD and that made
no difference either. The boot disk for the machine will not boot up
either HD. Where does this leave me? What are my options now?

The COA should be a sticker on the computer and thus you have a valid
Vista keycode. You don't need another, you need the platform related
installation disks.


Where do I get those? The Vista Recovery disks for the computer came
from HP itself and one set was made from the computer. It has to be a
valid key code so why would he need to call MS? Why wont either HD boot
with the Recovery disks or the boot disk?

Googling the term "platform related installation
disks" brought up info I didn't understand.


You get it/them from HP.

You tell them you removed a bad hard disk and replaced it. You need to
re-install Vista on the PC so you will need the disks to do it.

You may have to pay a nominal fee for shipping and handling for the media.


These are special disks from HP? I take it they're not the same ones that
came with the PC? Not the recovery disks for Vista?



--
Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp


 




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