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Creative SB Live! Series (WDM) output volume is too high
Creative SB Live! Series (WDM) output volume is too high. It's making me
nearly deaf when I wear my headphone on and it suddenly BOOM~~. The sound volume outputted by this WDM driver is too high, even if I turn the volume to 3 out of 100, it was loud enough to have the same output volume as I was using Windows XP with Creative's driver, with volume bar set to half. For now, creative don't have development plan for vista driver for my card Live! 5.1 SE, I can just risk my ears for now to use the WDM driver, or use the XP driver from creative (not working too well in Vista, with some sound of echo, although the volume is at normal level). Is there any solution for that? Can Microsoft fix that driver / provide option to turn down the volume settings so I don't need to risk my ears using Vista? |
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Creative SB Live! Series (WDM) output volume is too high
"Lawrence Mok" wrote: Creative SB Live! Series (WDM) output volume is too high. It's making me nearly deaf when I wear my headphone on and it suddenly BOOM~~. The sound volume outputted by this WDM driver is too high, even if I turn the volume to 3 out of 100, it was loud enough to have the same output volume as I was using Windows XP with Creative's driver, with volume bar set to half. For now, creative don't have development plan for vista driver for my card Live! 5.1 SE, I can just risk my ears for now to use the WDM driver, or use the XP driver from creative (not working too well in Vista, with some sound of echo, although the volume is at normal level). Is there any solution for that? Can Microsoft fix that driver / provide option to turn down the volume settings so I don't need to risk my ears using Vista? |
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Creative SB Live! Series (WDM) output volume is too high
More updates...
Now even worse, Microsoft had just completely removed the Creative SB Live! Series (WDM) driver from their windows update. That means once you need to re-install Windows Vista for some reason, the driver for your sound card is not available anymore, leaving your computer with no sound!! Why microsoft is doing this.... I don't think they should remove the driver and leaving a hardware totally unusable, instead of fixing the problem. Even leaving the problem alone is better than a complete discontinue of support of the hardware. |
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Creative SB Live! Series (WDM) output volume is too high
Hi Lawrence,
Microsoft didn't remove support, Creative did. They declared an 'end of life' for the Live! line and are pulling driver support for it. Microsoft doesn't write these drivers, they only supply certified ones from the manufacturer. If the maker tells them to pull the drivers as it is an unsupported product, there's not much they can do. -- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Windows help - www.rickrogers.org "Lawrence Mok" wrote in message ... More updates... Now even worse, Microsoft had just completely removed the Creative SB Live! Series (WDM) driver from their windows update. That means once you need to re-install Windows Vista for some reason, the driver for your sound card is not available anymore, leaving your computer with no sound!! Why microsoft is doing this.... I don't think they should remove the driver and leaving a hardware totally unusable, instead of fixing the problem. Even leaving the problem alone is better than a complete discontinue of support of the hardware. |
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Creative SB Live! Series (WDM) output volume is too high
Hi, thanks for your explaination, however, I am in doubt that why there exist
original WDM drivers that worked? If it worked before, that means creative indeed had supplied that driver for Microsoft for putting to their windows update web site for Vista? What Creative said "end of support" is they just will not develop any driver for it for Windows Vista. If that's the case, then where the WDM drivers came from? If Microsoft wrote that driver, why don't they just leave it there. And if Creative wrote that driver, why it appeared before in windows update, and now say they are not developing driver for Vista? This seems very confused. Anyway, any solution now for me to use my old good sound card that worked fine in Windows XP? I don't want to waste money and pollute the world by throwing away a piece of good and working hardware to the landfill. "Rick Rogers" wrote: Hi Lawrence, Microsoft didn't remove support, Creative did. They declared an 'end of life' for the Live! line and are pulling driver support for it. Microsoft doesn't write these drivers, they only supply certified ones from the manufacturer. If the maker tells them to pull the drivers as it is an unsupported product, there's not much they can do. -- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Windows help - www.rickrogers.org "Lawrence Mok" wrote in message ... More updates... Now even worse, Microsoft had just completely removed the Creative SB Live! Series (WDM) driver from their windows update. That means once you need to re-install Windows Vista for some reason, the driver for your sound card is not available anymore, leaving your computer with no sound!! Why microsoft is doing this.... I don't think they should remove the driver and leaving a hardware totally unusable, instead of fixing the problem. Even leaving the problem alone is better than a complete discontinue of support of the hardware. |
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Creative SB Live! Series (WDM) output volume is too high
Hi Lawrence,
The problem is that once a manufacturer "ends" a piece of hardware, it is considered unsupported - even if it originally was and even if there is currently no incompatibility problem. It could be that there is an upcoming incompatibility with a future update or they found a problem that either cannot or will not be fixed. Similar has happened in the past, and yeah it stinks, but it is what it is. If Microsoft wrote that driver, why don't they just leave it there. They didn't write it, and they usually don't. While there a few drivers they write themselves, more often than not they come from the device manufacturer and Microsoft just offers them in the OS or as a downloadable update. Once the manufacturer pulls support for a product, Microsoft is also obligated to remove it as an offering. If the drivers are in the OS, you should be able to continue using them (similar to the current situation with Nvidia's 5xxx series). If not, you might try third party sites that will likely host them "unofficially" for a time. -- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Windows help - www.rickrogers.org "Lawrence Mok" wrote in message ... Hi, thanks for your explaination, however, I am in doubt that why there exist original WDM drivers that worked? If it worked before, that means creative indeed had supplied that driver for Microsoft for putting to their windows update web site for Vista? What Creative said "end of support" is they just will not develop any driver for it for Windows Vista. If that's the case, then where the WDM drivers came from? If Microsoft wrote that driver, why don't they just leave it there. And if Creative wrote that driver, why it appeared before in windows update, and now say they are not developing driver for Vista? This seems very confused. Anyway, any solution now for me to use my old good sound card that worked fine in Windows XP? I don't want to waste money and pollute the world by throwing away a piece of good and working hardware to the landfill. "Rick Rogers" wrote: Hi Lawrence, Microsoft didn't remove support, Creative did. They declared an 'end of life' for the Live! line and are pulling driver support for it. Microsoft doesn't write these drivers, they only supply certified ones from the manufacturer. If the maker tells them to pull the drivers as it is an unsupported product, there's not much they can do. -- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Windows help - www.rickrogers.org "Lawrence Mok" wrote in message ... More updates... Now even worse, Microsoft had just completely removed the Creative SB Live! Series (WDM) driver from their windows update. That means once you need to re-install Windows Vista for some reason, the driver for your sound card is not available anymore, leaving your computer with no sound!! Why microsoft is doing this.... I don't think they should remove the driver and leaving a hardware totally unusable, instead of fixing the problem. Even leaving the problem alone is better than a complete discontinue of support of the hardware. |
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Creative SB Live! Series (WDM) output volume is too high
/Lawrence Mok/ said:
More updates... Now even worse, Microsoft had just completely removed the Creative SB Live! Series (WDM) driver from their windows update. That means once you need to re-install Windows Vista for some reason, the driver for your sound card is not available anymore, leaving your computer with no sound!! Why microsoft is doing this.... I don't think they should remove the driver and leaving a hardware totally unusable, instead of fixing the problem. Even leaving the problem alone is better than a complete discontinue of support of the hardware. An alternative to landfill would be to sell the card. That's what I did via Craigslist - with my SBLive! Value. The recipient was delighted to pick up a nice card at minimal expense for his (non-Vista) PC. |
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Creative SB Live! Series (WDM) output volume is too high
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/Lawrence Mok/ said: More updates... Now even worse, Microsoft had just completely removed the Creative SB Live! Series (WDM) driver from their windows update. That means once you need to re-install Windows Vista for some reason, the driver for your sound card is not available anymore, leaving your computer with no sound!! Why microsoft is doing this.... I don't think they should remove the driver and leaving a hardware totally unusable, instead of fixing the problem. Even leaving the problem alone is better than a complete discontinue of support of the hardware. An alternative to landfill would be to sell the card. That's what I did via Craigslist - with my SBLive! Value. The recipient was delighted to pick up a nice card at minimal expense for his (non-Vista) PC. I just read a workaround on another of the MS Vista newsgroups. Here it is: Get SB Live! cards to work with Vista (from a post on the newsgroups): **** You'll need the XP SB Live driver exe called LiveDrvUni-Pack(ENG).exe. Googling for "LiveDrvUni-Pack(ENG).exe brought several links, including one at a Creative site so d/l it from there. It is a 23.3MB file. Here are the steps in his/her own words - follow them to the letter: 1. Get LiveDrvUni-Pack(ENG).exe from Creative's web site 2. Run the installer, it will display the checking CRC window 3. It will then tell you it can't find an SB card - oh yeah? Leave the dialog alone, we need it there for the moment 4. Owing to the magic way the installer works it has already unpacked all the driver files onto your hard disk, as soon as the installer exits it will delete them - so don't let that installer exit yet 5. Open an Explorer window, navigate to %USER%\AppData\Local\Temp and look for the most recently created directory (mine was called CRF000. There will be an Audio\Drivers directory under it, navigate to this directory. (BTW substitute %USER% with your user name) 6. Copy the path from the path bar at the top of your Explorer window. 7. Now open the Device Manager (Windows key+Break), select the 'unknown audio' device, right click and then select 'Update Driver Software' and then 'Browse my computer for software'. 8. Now paste the path to the driver into the text box and press next. The driver should now install. That's it! **** I haven't tried this so YMMV. Malke -- Elephant Boy Computers www.elephantboycomputers.com "Don't Panic!" MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User |