A classic clip showing what Vista users must deal with...

http://snipurl.com/19r0y

If they would just wisen up and get a Mac, the world would be a happier
place!

http://www.apple.com/hardware/
http://www.apple.com/software/

At this point, it's clear Microsoft will never catch up with OSX.

Macs are glorified Fisher-Price activity centers for adults; computers for
scaredy cats too nervous to learn how proper computers work; computers for
people who earnestly believe in feng shui.

"Ted Landry" wrote in message
...
A classic clip showing what Vista users must deal with...

http://snipurl.com/19r0y

If they would just wisen up and get a Mac, the world would be a happier
place!

http://www.apple.com/hardware/
http://www.apple.com/software/

At this point, it's clear Microsoft will never catch up with OSX.

"Tom Willett" wrote:

Macs are glorified Fisher-Price activity centers for adults; computers for
scaredy cats too nervous to learn how proper computers work; computers for
people who earnestly believe in feng shui.

In actually, it's the tool heavy computer users use. It's the power
house of Personal Computing, only the uneducated use Windows at this
point in the game. Unix is where all the smart people go when they want
the best, that's why OSX is the most popular Unix worldwide.

People like Bill Joy, who created Java, use Macs exclusively. Tim
Berners Lee that created the World Wide Web, another Mac only person.
Larry Ellison, CEO of the 2nd largest software firm has over 16 Macs in
daily use.

Even the Number 3 man at Microsoft, Jim Allchin recently stated:

"I'd buy a Mac if i didn't work for Microsoft"

Ouch!

Nobody in their right mind uses Windows, it's just not powerful enough
for the heavy hitters of the world. Plus Windows is too proprietary
compared to Apple's Open Standards, Open Source approach.

Someday Tom, you too will move up to a Unix based Mac.

http://store.apple.com/

PS:

Plus in the corporate space OSX Server can't be beat for the speed and
price. IT groups still using Windows Server have lost the game since
they can completely replace MS server products and still keep on
running. (at about 1/5th the price)

http://www.apple.com/xserve/
http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/

ummmm... osx is based on linux not unix. And if osx is the most popular
worldwide how come it only has 3% marketshare and in server markets probably
only about 1% if that? And I see like most Mac zealots you took Allchin's
comment out of context to make your fisher price activity centre look
better. Open Source, errrr, read apple eula's on their software and you'll
find you are not allowed to modify, reverse engineer etc just like MS
software so so much for open source. Funny about the "uneducated", overall
I'd say windows users know more about computers in general. OSX is fairly
new in the OS game and most mac users are still used to pre-osx mac OS where
they relied on apple stores to fix, install everything. Also many windows
users also use linux.

"Ted Landry" wrote in message
...
"Tom Willett" wrote:

Macs are glorified Fisher-Price activity centers for adults; computers
for
scaredy cats too nervous to learn how proper computers work; computers
for
people who earnestly believe in feng shui.

In actually, it's the tool heavy computer users use. It's the power
house of Personal Computing, only the uneducated use Windows at this
point in the game. Unix is where all the smart people go when they want
the best, that's why OSX is the most popular Unix worldwide.

People like Bill Joy, who created Java, use Macs exclusively. Tim
Berners Lee that created the World Wide Web, another Mac only person.
Larry Ellison, CEO of the 2nd largest software firm has over 16 Macs in
daily use.

Even the Number 3 man at Microsoft, Jim Allchin recently stated:

"I'd buy a Mac if i didn't work for Microsoft"

Ouch!

Nobody in their right mind uses Windows, it's just not powerful enough
for the heavy hitters of the world. Plus Windows is too proprietary
compared to Apple's Open Standards, Open Source approach.

Someday Tom, you too will move up to a Unix based Mac.

http://store.apple.com/

PS:

Plus in the corporate space OSX Server can't be beat for the speed and
price. IT groups still using Windows Server have lost the game since
they can completely replace MS server products and still keep on
running. (at about 1/5th the price)

http://www.apple.com/xserve/
http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/

Peter M wrote:
ummmm... osx is based on linux not unix. And if osx is the most popular
worldwide how come it only has 3% marketshare and in server markets probably
only about 1% if that? And I see like most Mac zealots you took Allchin's
comment out of context to make your fisher price activity centre look
better. Open Source, errrr, read apple eula's on their software and you'll
find you are not allowed to modify, reverse engineer etc just like MS
software so so much for open source. Funny about the "uneducated", overall
I'd say windows users know more about computers in general. OSX is fairly
new in the OS game and most mac users are still used to pre-osx mac OS where
they relied on apple stores to fix, install everything. Also many windows
users also use linux.

"Ted Landry" wrote in message
...
"Tom Willett" wrote:

Macs are glorified Fisher-Price activity centers for adults; computers
for
scaredy cats too nervous to learn how proper computers work; computers
for
people who earnestly believe in feng shui.
In actually, it's the tool heavy computer users use. It's the power
house of Personal Computing, only the uneducated use Windows at this
point in the game. Unix is where all the smart people go when they want
the best, that's why OSX is the most popular Unix worldwide.

People like Bill Joy, who created Java, use Macs exclusively. Tim
Berners Lee that created the World Wide Web, another Mac only person.
Larry Ellison, CEO of the 2nd largest software firm has over 16 Macs in
daily use.

Even the Number 3 man at Microsoft, Jim Allchin recently stated:

"I'd buy a Mac if i didn't work for Microsoft"

Ouch!

Nobody in their right mind uses Windows, it's just not powerful enough
for the heavy hitters of the world. Plus Windows is too proprietary
compared to Apple's Open Standards, Open Source approach.

Someday Tom, you too will move up to a Unix based Mac.

http://store.apple.com/

PS:

Plus in the corporate space OSX Server can't be beat for the speed and
price. IT groups still using Windows Server have lost the game since
they can completely replace MS server products and still keep on
running. (at about 1/5th the price)

http://www.apple.com/xserve/
http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/



I agree with you, but OSX is based on, I believe, BSD which is more of a
UNIX flavor and is not Linux.

I stand corrected, indeed BSD is more UNIX than linux.


I agree with you, but OSX is based on, I believe, BSD which is more of a
UNIX flavor and is not Linux.

"Peter M" wrote:

ummmm... osx is based on linux not unix. And if osx is the most popular
worldwide how come it only has 3% marketshare and in server markets probably
only about 1% if that? And I see like most Mac zealots you took Allchin's
comment out of context to make your fisher price activity centre look
better. Open Source, errrr, read apple eula's on their software and you'll
find you are not allowed to modify, reverse engineer etc just like MS
software so so much for open source. Funny about the "uneducated", overall
I'd say windows users know more about computers in general. OSX is fairly
new in the OS game and most mac users are still used to pre-osx mac OS where
they relied on apple stores to fix, install everything. Also many windows
users also use linux.

Nah, OSX is based on Unix... NOT the "after school project" called Linux.

This is what IBM has to say about OSX and FreeBSD (which is what OSX is
based on)

"The FreeBSD operating system is the unknown giant among free operating
systems. Starting out from the 386BSD project, it is an extremely fast
UNIX®-like operating system mostly for the Intel® chip and its clones.
In many ways, FreeBSD has always been the operating system that
GNU/Linux®-based operating systems should have been. It runs on
out-of-date Intel machines and 64-bit AMD chips, and it serves terabytes
of files a day on some of the largest file servers on earth."

much more he

http://www-128.ibm.com/developerwork...ry/os-freebsd/

OSX currently has 5.9% marketshare up about 3% over the last 18 months.
In the server space it's less than 1% but it's remains the best overall
value for anyone in an enterprise, industrial or research situation. The
game is now over for Microsoft, now it's just how fast the rest of the
world finds out about inexpensive OSX Server and the inexpensive Xserve.

Here is what InfoWorld has to say about the major change coming to
Servers worldwide:

Xserve is far better than the commodity server that the Intel x86 market
expects. But what really blasts Apple's competition is OS X Server. The
present Tiger (10.4) release is more than a match for much more
expensive commercial Linux, and far more capable out of the box than
Windows 2003 Server. Early next year, OS X Server Leopard (10.5) will
transform Apple's already industry-leading Xserve, including the model
reviewed here, into an unimaginably feature-rich native 64-bit server
platform. And guess what? When you buy it, you're done paying for it,
and all of the services you have to buy, build or rent with Windows,
Linux or pay-as-you-go service outsourcing, are installed on every
Xserve's boot drive. Call me old fashioned, but I prefer Xserve's buy
once, run forever approach.

http://weblog.infoworld.com/enterpri...apple_xserve_t
h.html

-

Windows simply can't win against OSX going forward, and I'm hear to let
you in on the great news!

--

Peter M wrote:
ummmm... osx is based on linux not unix.

LOL! OSX is NOT based on linux. It;s based on BSD. Mabey you
shouldn't talk so much about things you know little about.

And if osx is the most popular
worldwide how come it only has 3% marketshare and in server markets probably
only about 1% if that? And I see like most Mac zealots you took Allchin's
comment out of context to make your fisher price activity centre look
better. Open Source, errrr, read apple eula's on their software and you'll
find you are not allowed to modify, reverse engineer etc just like MS
software so so much for open source. Funny about the "uneducated", overall
I'd say windows users know more about computers in general. OSX is fairly
new in the OS game and most mac users are still used to pre-osx mac OS where
they relied on apple stores to fix, install everything. Also many windows
users also use linux.

"Ted Landry" wrote in message
...
"Tom Willett" wrote:

snip
In actually, it's the tool heavy computer users use. It's the power
house of Personal Computing, only the uneducated use Windows at this
point in the game. Unix is where all the smart people go when they want
the best, that's why OSX is the most popular Unix worldwide.

People like Bill Joy, who created Java, use Macs exclusively. Tim
Berners Lee that created the World Wide Web, another Mac only person.
Larry Ellison, CEO of the 2nd largest software firm has over 16 Macs in
daily use.

Even the Number 3 man at Microsoft, Jim Allchin recently stated:

"I'd buy a Mac if i didn't work for Microsoft"

Ouch!

Nobody in their right mind uses Windows, it's just not powerful enough
for the heavy hitters of the world. Plus Windows is too proprietary
compared to Apple's Open Standards, Open Source approach.

Someday Tom, you too will move up to a Unix based Mac.

http://store.apple.com/

PS:

Plus in the corporate space OSX Server can't be beat for the speed and
price. IT groups still using Windows Server have lost the game since
they can completely replace MS server products and still keep on
running. (at about 1/5th the price)

http://www.apple.com/xserve/
http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/





--
Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group:
http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html

Most recent idiotic quote added to KICK (Klassic Idiotic Caption Kooks):
"Nope. Just CLUELESS ****S LIKE YOU too stupid to work it out. Thank
the bittorent brigade."

"Good poets borrow; great poets steal."
- T. S. Eliot

Actually Jim didn't state that, but that's ok because Mac users can't
actually read

Perhaps if you did your research you would find out what he actually said
and how that was only part of a sentence pulled out of context

Trust me I know Jim personally and that's not his view.



"Ted Landry" wrote in message
...
"Tom Willett" wrote:

Macs are glorified Fisher-Price activity centers for adults; computers
for
scaredy cats too nervous to learn how proper computers work; computers
for
people who earnestly believe in feng shui.

In actually, it's the tool heavy computer users use. It's the power
house of Personal Computing, only the uneducated use Windows at this
point in the game. Unix is where all the smart people go when they want
the best, that's why OSX is the most popular Unix worldwide.

People like Bill Joy, who created Java, use Macs exclusively. Tim
Berners Lee that created the World Wide Web, another Mac only person.
Larry Ellison, CEO of the 2nd largest software firm has over 16 Macs in
daily use.

Even the Number 3 man at Microsoft, Jim Allchin recently stated:

"I'd buy a Mac if i didn't work for Microsoft"

Ouch!

Nobody in their right mind uses Windows, it's just not powerful enough
for the heavy hitters of the world. Plus Windows is too proprietary
compared to Apple's Open Standards, Open Source approach.

Someday Tom, you too will move up to a Unix based Mac.

http://store.apple.com/

PS:

Plus in the corporate space OSX Server can't be beat for the speed and
price. IT groups still using Windows Server have lost the game since
they can completely replace MS server products and still keep on
running. (at about 1/5th the price)

http://www.apple.com/xserve/
http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/

"Shane Nokes" wrote:

Actually Jim didn't state that, but that's ok because Mac users can't
actually read

Perhaps if you did your research you would find out what he actually said
and how that was only part of a sentence pulled out of context

Trust me I know Jim personally and that's not his view.

Yes, Jim did state that, the "direct quote" from the transcript is:

"I would buy a Mac today if I was not working at Microsoft."

the full transcript is he

http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?s...61209135113443

At least he is retiring, so he'll finally be able to move up to a Mac
once he leaves. (probably one of the main reasons TO retire