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Racquel February 14th 07 06:11 PM

Sidewinder Strategic Commander problems
 
My list of problems just keeps growing and growing. I am trying to install
the controller onto my Vista system & have encountered several problems. The
latest problem is while attempting to install the software, the
"installshield" application stops working almost instantly when it appears to
be completeing installation ... then there are 2 choices I am given, one is
to close the program & the other is to check online for a solution. Needless
to say, the button for checking online yields no results . To address other
problems, previously I was able to install the CD up to the point where it
would check the connection of the device to the USB but didnt recognize it
(USB port is active the working & computer itself recognizes the device &
that it was 'installed' properly) & also at another time I received an error
message that 'critical system files are missing or corrupted' (to try to fix
this based on microsofts suggestion of installing it as an administrator
doesnt work either) . I am at my wits end w/this thing... Can anyone help?

Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User February 14th 07 10:49 PM

Sidewinder Strategic Commander problems
 
There has been no official support for this device for some while.. you may
have to call time on it.. there are other gaming devices out there that may
or may not get continued support..


"Racquel" wrote in message
...
My list of problems just keeps growing and growing. I am trying to
install
the controller onto my Vista system & have encountered several problems.
The
latest problem is while attempting to install the software, the
"installshield" application stops working almost instantly when it appears
to
be completeing installation ... then there are 2 choices I am given, one
is
to close the program & the other is to check online for a solution.
Needless
to say, the button for checking online yields no results . To address
other
problems, previously I was able to install the CD up to the point where it
would check the connection of the device to the USB but didnt recognize it
(USB port is active the working & computer itself recognizes the device &
that it was 'installed' properly) & also at another time I received an
error
message that 'critical system files are missing or corrupted' (to try to
fix
this based on microsofts suggestion of installing it as an administrator
doesnt work either) . I am at my wits end w/this thing... Can anyone
help?



turbotoes February 15th 07 05:56 PM

Sidewinder Strategic Commander problems
 
Don't panic, just follow the instructions this post I made a couple of weeks
ago and all will work beautifully I promise. Since then I've also used it in
gothic3 and splinter cell double agent.

turbotoes


Well having spent most of the afternoon moping about it I actually got the
sidewinder to work, it’s quite simple.
Install the sidewinder software, at a certain point you will be asked if “
you really want to quit the setup program?” say yes.
Tootle off to the folder in which you installed the software and drag
“DEAMON14” into startup and you might as well get yourself a shortcut to the
program itself on the desktop while you are at it.
Now get yourself off to Device manager by your favourite route. Under the
heading “Human Interface Devices” you will see two ( maybe more) items. The
ones we are interested in are
Usb Human Interface Device, this equals your strategic commander
And
HID compliant device, this little fellow will become ms sw strat com hid
drivers
Two other devices will appear as we get the drivers installed, these are ms
virtual keyboard and ms virtual mouse, hoorah.
So to get the little devils working like you want, right click on the “Usb
Human Interface Device” choose “update driver software” then click “browse
my computer for the driver software”
Then click “ let me pick from a list of device drivers on my computer” then
you will be given a list in that list will be “ Microsoft strategic
commander” click on that, followed by “next” around this point you will get
the usual warning that the driver is unsigned click on “install anyway” or
the equivalent there of!!
Rince and repeat for the HID compliant device and when you have done that
you will find that the virtual kb and mouse will have appeared, you should
not have to change their drivers. Windows will tell you that you need to
restart your computer (that has not changed) and when you reboot your strat
comm should work!!!
You will need to repeat this process if you change usb ports, I’ve tested
it in guild wars and nwn2 and all was fine.

turbotoes

"Racquel" wrote:

My list of problems just keeps growing and growing. I am trying to install
the controller onto my Vista system & have encountered several problems. The
latest problem is while attempting to install the software, the
"installshield" application stops working almost instantly when it appears to
be completeing installation ... then there are 2 choices I am given, one is
to close the program & the other is to check online for a solution. Needless
to say, the button for checking online yields no results . To address other
problems, previously I was able to install the CD up to the point where it
would check the connection of the device to the USB but didnt recognize it
(USB port is active the working & computer itself recognizes the device &
that it was 'installed' properly) & also at another time I received an error
message that 'critical system files are missing or corrupted' (to try to fix
this based on microsofts suggestion of installing it as an administrator
doesnt work either) . I am at my wits end w/this thing... Can anyone help?


Racquel February 21st 07 04:51 PM

Sidewinder Strategic Commander problems
 
Thank you so much.. I was finally able to get the program to install (that
was one of my biggest problems) and when it did, I followed your instructions
& now it works perfectly! :) Thanks again ... Racquel

"turbotoes" wrote:

Don't panic, just follow the instructions this post I made a couple of weeks
ago and all will work beautifully I promise. Since then I've also used it in
gothic3 and splinter cell double agent.

turbotoes


Well having spent most of the afternoon moping about it I actually got the
sidewinder to work, it’s quite simple.
Install the sidewinder software, at a certain point you will be asked if “
you really want to quit the setup program?” say yes.
Tootle off to the folder in which you installed the software and drag
“DEAMON14” into startup and you might as well get yourself a shortcut to the
program itself on the desktop while you are at it.
Now get yourself off to Device manager by your favourite route. Under the
heading “Human Interface Devices” you will see two ( maybe more) items. The
ones we are interested in are
Usb Human Interface Device, this equals your strategic commander
And
HID compliant device, this little fellow will become ms sw strat com hid
drivers
Two other devices will appear as we get the drivers installed, these are ms
virtual keyboard and ms virtual mouse, hoorah.
So to get the little devils working like you want, right click on the “Usb
Human Interface Device” choose “update driver software” then click “browse
my computer for the driver software”
Then click “ let me pick from a list of device drivers on my computer” then
you will be given a list in that list will be “ Microsoft strategic
commander” click on that, followed by “next” around this point you will get
the usual warning that the driver is unsigned click on “install anyway” or
the equivalent there of!!
Rince and repeat for the HID compliant device and when you have done that
you will find that the virtual kb and mouse will have appeared, you should
not have to change their drivers. Windows will tell you that you need to
restart your computer (that has not changed) and when you reboot your strat
comm should work!!!
You will need to repeat this process if you change usb ports, I’ve tested
it in guild wars and nwn2 and all was fine.

turbotoes

"Racquel" wrote:

My list of problems just keeps growing and growing. I am trying to install
the controller onto my Vista system & have encountered several problems. The
latest problem is while attempting to install the software, the
"installshield" application stops working almost instantly when it appears to
be completeing installation ... then there are 2 choices I am given, one is
to close the program & the other is to check online for a solution. Needless
to say, the button for checking online yields no results . To address other
problems, previously I was able to install the CD up to the point where it
would check the connection of the device to the USB but didnt recognize it
(USB port is active the working & computer itself recognizes the device &
that it was 'installed' properly) & also at another time I received an error
message that 'critical system files are missing or corrupted' (to try to fix
this based on microsofts suggestion of installing it as an administrator
doesnt work either) . I am at my wits end w/this thing... Can anyone help?


Jones March 14th 07 08:58 AM

Sidewinder Strategic Commander problems
 

turbotoes;185696 Wrote:
Don't panic, just follow the instructions this post I made a couple of
weeks
ago and all will work beautifully I promise. Since then I've also used
it in
gothic3 and splinter cell double agent.

turbotoes
(...)



Wait... just a second!

Are you telling us that you managed to install and run the drivers and
profile software for the sidewinder strategic commander on Vista X64??
I mean, not Vists 32, it really runs on the X64 version this way?
REALLY????!!! :eek: Completely running, like it did on win2k, with
buttons and the three movement axes?

Please please please confirm that you were talking about the X64!
Please!!


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~USM~Tomza April 6th 07 02:35 PM

Sidewinder Strategic Commander problems
 

Jones;230547 Wrote:
Wait... just a second!

Are you telling us that you managed to install and run the drivers and
profile software for the sidewinder strategic commander on Vista X64??
I mean, not Vists 32, it really runs on the X64 version this way?
REALLY????!!! :eek: Completely running, like it did on win2k, with
buttons and the three movement axes?

Please please please confirm that you were talking about the X64!
Please!!


I have tried to install the strategic commander on the 64 vista version
with no workable results, a call to microsoft produced no results, they
were suprised it could be installed on the 32bit vista OS. I suspect it
has to do with signed drivers. If any one figures it out Please post how
it can be done, Thanks.


--
~USM~Tomza

Oaken May 6th 07 12:34 PM

Sidewinder Strategic Commander problems
 

Unfortunately I'm not having nearly as much success. I've done the
install up until the point indicated, dropped a shortcut to Daemon14
into my Shortcut folder, and managed to force the HID and USB device
drivers for my device to the Strategic Commander versions. So far so
good although I did not get a request to reboot. But I reboot anyway and
it all looks good (the buttons don't automatically light up on the
controller like they used to on XP though). But when I try to run the SC
application itself to make sure the right profiles are set up I get an
error:

"Critical system files are missing or corrupted.
Please UNPLUG THE DEVICE and reinstall Strategic Commander software
from the compact disc."

Of course if I unplug it I lose the SC drivers and end up having to
reassign those. And of course it works no better the second (or third or
fourth) time around unfortunately.

Any ideas?

Racquel;195870 Wrote:
Thank you so much.. I was finally able to get the program to install
(that
was one of my biggest problems) and when it did, I followed your
instructions
& now it works perfectly! :) Thanks again ... Racquel

"turbotoes" wrote:

Don't panic, just follow the instructions this post I made a couple

of weeks
ago and all will work beautifully I promise. Since then I've also

used it in
gothic3 and splinter cell double agent.

turbotoes


Well having spent most of the afternoon moping about it I actually

got the
sidewinder to work, it’s quite simple.
Install the sidewinder software, at a certain point you will be asked

if “
you really want to quit the setup program?” say yes.
Tootle off to the folder in which you installed the software and drag
“DEAMON14” into startup and you might as well get yourself a

shortcut to the
program itself on the desktop while you are at it.
Now get yourself off to Device manager by your favourite route. Under

the
heading “Human Interface Devices” you will see two ( maybe more)

items. The
ones we are interested in are
Usb Human Interface Device, this equals your strategic commander
And
HID compliant device, this little fellow will become ms sw strat com

hid
drivers
Two other devices will appear as we get the drivers installed, these

are ms
virtual keyboard and ms virtual mouse, hoorah.
So to get the little devils working like you want, right click on the

“Usb
Human Interface Device” choose “update driver software” then

click “browse
my computer for the driver software”
Then click “ let me pick from a list of device drivers on my

computer” then
you will be given a list in that list will be “ Microsoft strategic
commander” click on that, followed by “next” around this point

you will get
the usual warning that the driver is unsigned click on “install

anyway” or
the equivalent there of!!
Rince and repeat for the HID compliant device and when you have done

that
you will find that the virtual kb and mouse will have appeared, you

should
not have to change their drivers. Windows will tell you that you need

to
restart your computer (that has not changed) and when you reboot your

strat
comm should work!!!
You will need to repeat this process if you change usb ports, I’ve

tested
it in guild wars and nwn2 and all was fine.

turbotoes

"Racquel" wrote:

My list of problems just keeps growing and growing. I am trying to

install
the controller onto my Vista system & have encountered several

problems. The
latest problem is while attempting to install the software, the
"installshield" application stops working almost instantly when it

appears to
be completeing installation ... then there are 2 choices I am

given, one is
to close the program & the other is to check online for a solution.

Needless
to say, the button for checking online yields no results . To

address other
problems, previously I was able to install the CD up to the point

where it
would check the connection of the device to the USB but didnt

recognize it
(USB port is active the working & computer itself recognizes the

device &
that it was 'installed' properly) & also at another time I received

an error
message that 'critical system files are missing or corrupted' (to

try to fix
this based on microsofts suggestion of installing it as an

administrator
doesnt work either) . I am at my wits end w/this thing... Can

anyone help?



--
Oaken

Babalou May 11th 07 10:23 PM

Sidewinder Strategic Commander problems
 

Please please please .... do you really want to see a grown man cry:(

I have the exact error when doing everything that has been suggested (I
have to admit I was a bit hesitant about doing the changes stated as I
had no real idea what I was doing, but the instructions were precise and
very good) and the blasted error of corrupted thingy-ma-bobs comes up
AAAAAAAHHHHHHH:eek:

So if any very kind soul can take pity on a noob like myself and
instruct us how to get my wonderful gadget to work again I would be very
grateful

Baba


--
Babalou

wido May 13th 07 09:56 AM

Sidewinder Strategic Commander problems
 

Hi there,
be glad, you are not alone in this matter. I can't get it work either.
But the instructions say: virual kb and mouse, i do not see the virtual
mouse. I do have the list with:
- ms S C
- ms S C HID drivers
- ms sidewinder Virtual Keyboard

So do i mis something :confused:

Wido


--
wido

turbotoes August 7th 07 01:36 PM

Sidewinder Strategic Commander problems
 
Sorry I've been away. I have recently discovered that if you do not TURN OFF
user account control, you will not get the device listing for the virtual
mouse. I have no idea why only the v mouse if affected, but it is. tuun off
UAC and all should be well. I hope I am not to late to help!!!!!

"wido" wrote:


Hi there,
be glad, you are not alone in this matter. I can't get it work either.
But the instructions say: virual kb and mouse, i do not see the virtual
mouse. I do have the list with:
- ms S C
- ms S C HID drivers
- ms sidewinder Virtual Keyboard

So do i mis something :confused:

Wido


--
wido



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