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Seems I have the same problems as many users out there. I am the ONLY user
on my computer and I can't do many tasks I enjoyed on past versions of Windows because I have to ask the "Administrator" to do t for me. I get enough of that on the Job. I am running Vista Home Premium. The latest "you can't do that!" involved installing my printer software and I'm told I can't use "Run as..". I must log off and log in as Administrator or else have the Administrator do it for me. I am at home for god's sake! I am the only user. Sorry but I am frustrated. Did I miss something at install and would it be easier to just reinstall? Please help. David |
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try disabling the uac (user account control) that will solve most problems
and if you still can't install or do the run as... try switching your account type to administator. "David Johnson" wrote: Seems I have the same problems as many users out there. I am the ONLY user on my computer and I can't do many tasks I enjoyed on past versions of Windows because I have to ask the "Administrator" to do t for me. I get enough of that on the Job. I am running Vista Home Premium. The latest "you can't do that!" involved installing my printer software and I'm told I can't use "Run as..". I must log off and log in as Administrator or else have the Administrator do it for me. I am at home for god's sake! I am the only user. Sorry but I am frustrated. Did I miss something at install and would it be easier to just reinstall? Please help. David |
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I have the same problem and I am not very happy. I have several programs
that tell me I can't uninstall or install because I do not have sufficient priviledges to change. It tells me to log on as administrator. I am the adminstrator and I have administrator priviledges. I also turned off user account control and I still get the same error! I uninstalled Adobe Acobe Professional because it kept wanting to reconfigure itself everytime I turned on the computer. Now I installed that program before I upgraded to vista a week before in the Windows XP environment. I did a home premium vista upgrade. What is the solution to this Microsoft? I can not uninstall my bluetooth drivers or upgrade them either. Just yesterday I installed them using the new drivers for vista and they installed and set up fine, today my it detected my ipaq via bluetooth and it wants the bluetooth driver but it will not update them because it says I do not have priviledges and I need to log on as administrator. Thats funny, I am the administrator and I installed the drivers fine yesterday! Wow, I am am really angry I switched to vista, I don't see much advantage and I have had 3 days of pure hell trying to resolve all the issues.!!! Please help! "Joshua" wrote: try disabling the uac (user account control) that will solve most problems and if you still can't install or do the run as... try switching your account type to administator. "David Johnson" wrote: Seems I have the same problems as many users out there. I am the ONLY user on my computer and I can't do many tasks I enjoyed on past versions of Windows because I have to ask the "Administrator" to do t for me. I get enough of that on the Job. I am running Vista Home Premium. The latest "you can't do that!" involved installing my printer software and I'm told I can't use "Run as..". I must log off and log in as Administrator or else have the Administrator do it for me. I am at home for god's sake! I am the only user. Sorry but I am frustrated. Did I miss something at install and would it be easier to just reinstall? Please help. David |
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Appreciate your reply. In the Users folder under C drive I have "David" and
if I right click and click on "properties" then click "security" I have the following listed: SYSTEM, David(David-PC\David, and lastly Administrators(David-PC\David). Am I not an Administrator account? If not how do I delete these accounts and set me up as "Administrator"? "Joshua" wrote: try disabling the uac (user account control) that will solve most problems and if you still can't install or do the run as... try switching your account type to administator. "David Johnson" wrote: Seems I have the same problems as many users out there. I am the ONLY user on my computer and I can't do many tasks I enjoyed on past versions of Windows because I have to ask the "Administrator" to do t for me. I get enough of that on the Job. I am running Vista Home Premium. The latest "you can't do that!" involved installing my printer software and I'm told I can't use "Run as..". I must log off and log in as Administrator or else have the Administrator do it for me. I am at home for god's sake! I am the only user. Sorry but I am frustrated. Did I miss something at install and would it be easier to just reinstall? Please help. David |
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On Feb 16, 1:45 pm, David Johnson
wrote: Appreciate your reply. In the Users folder under C drive I have "David" and if I right click and click on "properties" then click "security" I have the following listed: SYSTEM, David(David-PC\David, and lastly Administrators(David-PC\David). Am I not an Administrator account? If not how do I delete these accounts and set me up as "Administrator"? "Joshua" wrote: try disabling the uac (user account control) that will solve most problems and if you still can't install or do the run as... try switching your account type to administator. "David Johnson" wrote: Seems I have the same problems as many users out there. I am the ONLY user on my computer and I can't do many tasks I enjoyed on past versions of Windows because I have to ask the "Administrator" to do t for me. I get enough of that on the Job. I am running Vista Home Premium. The latest "you can't do that!" involved installing my printer software and I'm told I can't use "Run as..". I must log off and log in as Administrator or else have the Administrator do it for me. I am at home for god's sake! I am the only user. Sorry but I am frustrated. Did I miss something at install and would it be easier to just reinstall? Please help. David- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The UAC is turned on by default, it's an extra layer of security so that even people WITH admin rights (including the admin) have to acknowlage that a change is to be made to the system. This can be turned off easily! http://www.petri.co.il/disable_uac_in_windows_vista.htm |
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Reuben,
I have same problem, I can't install software because I dont have Adminstrative rights, " I am the Administrator" so what the hell is going on with Vista. I disabled it in msconfig and it didnt help. Someone please help 't "Williamc_sircon" wrote: On Feb 16, 1:45 pm, David Johnson wrote: Appreciate your reply. In the Users folder under C drive I have "David" and if I right click and click on "properties" then click "security" I have the following listed: SYSTEM, David(David-PC\David, and lastly Administrators(David-PC\David). Am I not an Administrator account? If not how do I delete these accounts and set me up as "Administrator"? "Joshua" wrote: try disabling the uac (user account control) that will solve most problems and if you still can't install or do the run as... try switching your account type to administator. "David Johnson" wrote: Seems I have the same problems as many users out there. I am the ONLY user on my computer and I can't do many tasks I enjoyed on past versions of Windows because I have to ask the "Administrator" to do t for me. I get enough of that on the Job. I am running Vista Home Premium. The latest "you can't do that!" involved installing my printer software and I'm told I can't use "Run as..". I must log off and log in as Administrator or else have the Administrator do it for me. I am at home for god's sake! I am the only user. Sorry but I am frustrated. Did I miss something at install and would it be easier to just reinstall? Please help. David- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The UAC is turned on by default, it's an extra layer of security so that even people WITH admin rights (including the admin) have to acknowlage that a change is to be made to the system. This can be turned off easily! http://www.petri.co.il/disable_uac_in_windows_vista.htm |
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David hilde, I did the regedit thing, value was already zero, I am the
adminstrator. Also did the msconfig thing, still get blocked, from installing programs Reuben "Williamc_sircon" wrote: On Feb 16, 1:45 pm, David Johnson wrote: Appreciate your reply. In the Users folder under C drive I have "David" and if I right click and click on "properties" then click "security" I have the following listed: SYSTEM, David(David-PC\David, and lastly Administrators(David-PC\David). Am I not an Administrator account? If not how do I delete these accounts and set me up as "Administrator"? "Joshua" wrote: try disabling the uac (user account control) that will solve most problems and if you still can't install or do the run as... try switching your account type to administator. "David Johnson" wrote: Seems I have the same problems as many users out there. I am the ONLY user on my computer and I can't do many tasks I enjoyed on past versions of Windows because I have to ask the "Administrator" to do t for me. I get enough of that on the Job. I am running Vista Home Premium. The latest "you can't do that!" involved installing my printer software and I'm told I can't use "Run as..". I must log off and log in as Administrator or else have the Administrator do it for me. I am at home for god's sake! I am the only user. Sorry but I am frustrated. Did I miss something at install and would it be easier to just reinstall? Please help. David- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The UAC is turned on by default, it's an extra layer of security so that even people WITH admin rights (including the admin) have to acknowlage that a change is to be made to the system. This can be turned off easily! http://www.petri.co.il/disable_uac_in_windows_vista.htm |
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"Williamc_sircon" wrote: On Feb 16, 1:45 pm, David Johnson wrote: Appreciate your reply. In the Users folder under C drive I have "David" and if I right click and click on "properties" then click "security" I have the following listed: SYSTEM, David(David-PC\David, and lastly Administrators(David-PC\David). Am I not an Administrator account? If not how do I delete these accounts and set me up as "Administrator"? "Joshua" wrote: try disabling the uac (user account control) that will solve most problems and if you still can't install or do the run as... try switching your account type to administator. "David Johnson" wrote: Seems I have the same problems as many users out there. I am the ONLY user on my computer and I can't do many tasks I enjoyed on past versions of Windows because I have to ask the "Administrator" to do t for me. I get enough of that on the Job. I am running Vista Home Premium. The latest "you can't do that!" involved installing my printer software and I'm told I can't use "Run as..". I must log off and log in as Administrator or else have the Administrator do it for me. I am at home for god's sake! I am the only user. Sorry but I am frustrated. Did I miss something at install and would it be easier to just reinstall? Please help. David- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The UAC is turned on by default, it's an extra layer of security so that even people WITH admin rights (including the admin) have to acknowlage that a change is to be made to the system. This can be turned off easily! http://www.petri.co.il/disable_uac_in_windows_vista.htm Reuben, I have same problem, I can't install software because I dont have Adminstrative rights, " I am the Administrator" so what the hell is going on with Vista. I disabled it in msconfig and it didnt help. Someone please help 't |
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On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 14:20:33 -0800, David Johnson David
Seems I have the same problems as many users out there. I am the ONLY user on my computer and I can't do many tasks I enjoyed on past versions of Windows because I have to ask the "Administrator" to do t for me. I get enough of that on the Job. Yup, this is because the NT security model was developed for corporate networks, and has inappropriately been dropped into place as-is when NT was pushed at "the rest of us" as XP. The NT model ASSumes each user will do a narrowly-defined range of permitted activities, as befitting their job description. That's fine when you are being paid to do only work-related things on the company's PC, but it becomes inappropriate when you own your own PC. You may have avoided this problem in XP by simply running as administrator all the time, but that undermines much of the security that XP may have been able to offer you. Because consumers didn't take to using limited user accounts, and pretending to be someone else when they wanted to admin thier own PC, the software vendors catering for consumers didn't bother to embrace the NT security model either. So games, accounting packages, etc. all required you to have admin rights in order for their software to work. So it's "chicken and egg"; no-one in consumerland runs with less than admin rights because their sware won't work, and no sware vendor writres for reduced rights because everyone runs as admin anyway. The result; consumerland misses out on most of NT's security protection, and gets shot to pieces by malware. The aggregate firepower of consumer broadband, coupled with rampant malware infection, leads to huge botnets that act as massive wild virtual servers, currently carrying 95% of spam and being used as hacking and DDoS tools against businesses and so on. Vista tries to make NT security available to users who have not embraced the "let's all pretend to be corporate serfs" model, i.e. most of us, by retrofitting some of these protections to user accounts that are set up with admin rights. IMO, this is a great idea, and I also see in Vista the beginnings of a move away from dumbo account-based rights (where everything that happens in a logon session gets the same rights as you) towards more consumer-appropriate per-program rights (e.g. IE 7 runs with less rights than you do, thus limiting the harm web sites can do, and programs have to ask you for permission to do admin things). Ironically, Vista is seen as inflicting the NT user rights model on consumers even as it moves away from this model, because for many of us, it is the first time we've ever had to think about "admin rights". It may be new to us, but folks from other platforms (MacOS, Linux) that pride themselves on being "more secure" see these prompts all the time, often with password required. This process is pointed to as one reason why these platforms are "more secure", whereas the same prompts in Vista are complained about as being a meaningless nuisance. I am running Vista Home Premium. The latest "you can't do that!" involved installing my printer software and I'm told I can't use "Run as..". I must log off and log in as Administrator or else have the Administrator do it for me. I am at home for god's sake! I am the only user. Sorry but I am frustrated. Did I miss something at install and would it be easier to just reinstall? Please help. DON'T "just" re-install. Consider that these alerts become highly valuable when they pop up unexpectedly, when sware running without your knowledge is trying to rip into the system behind your back. Think of this as like the discreet "beep" you hear from your home burglar alarm every time you open a door to the outside of your house. When it isn't you that's opening that door, then you may *really* want to know that that is happening. --------------- ---- --- -- - - - - Saws are too hard to use. Be easier to use! --------------- ---- --- -- - - - - |
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Joshua, As you can see in my original post I stated I am the administrator
and I did turn off user account control. Here is a more detail. I am having several owner permissions rights problems with Windows Vista. I upgraded my Dell XPS M1210 to Windows Vista from Windows XP Media Center addition on 2/14/2007. I set up myself as the administrator. I am the administrator account. However, on several occasions now I am unable to remove software, reinstall software, install drivers etc. because it says I do not have permissions and I need to re-logon as administrator. For example I installed a Cannon Selphy CP730 compact printer driver while it was in Windows XP mode. Now I want to upgrade that driver to newer driver supplied by Cannon for Windows Vista. The cannon rep advised me to delete the registry entry for the printer. However I am not able to give myself full rights and delete. I looked to see who the owner is, it says Administrators. Now I am the Administrator but not the AdministratorS. How did this administrators account get on my computer? I never put it there. I did a Belarc Advisor analysis on the computer and it shows there is an Adminstrator account that is marked as locked. I understand I can not lock or unlock an account with Windows Vista Home Premium. Could someone please tell me how to get rid of the Administrators account and give myself (the owner of the pc and the person who set everything up) the rights to remove/install programs or edit the registry! I am unable to use my printer, connect my ipaq, run adobe professional reinstall, etc. because of this. On more thing, when I look at the security tab for the registry edit entry for Group or user names it has 3 enteries 1) Everyone 2) Owner rights 3) System I even tried to add myself through the advance tab and give myself permissions through the usb and also enum and it won’t work! It will not give me full control. This is unbelieveable, it is my computer, I purchased windows vista, loaded my software and yet I am not the owner? And it will not give me any control. This really upsets me, what is wrong with windows vista? How did this other administrators account appear and take control of programs and owns them? P.S. I have looked in the Microsoft management console and there are no groups set up. "buyslake" wrote: I have the same problem and I am not very happy. I have several programs that tell me I can't uninstall or install because I do not have sufficient priviledges to change. It tells me to log on as administrator. I am the adminstrator and I have administrator priviledges. I also turned off user account control and I still get the same error! I uninstalled Adobe Acobe Professional because it kept wanting to reconfigure itself everytime I turned on the computer. Now I installed that program before I upgraded to vista a week before in the Windows XP environment. I did a home premium vista upgrade. What is the solution to this Microsoft? I can not uninstall my bluetooth drivers or upgrade them either. Just yesterday I installed them using the new drivers for vista and they installed and set up fine, today my it detected my ipaq via bluetooth and it wants the bluetooth driver but it will not update them because it says I do not have priviledges and I need to log on as administrator. Thats funny, I am the administrator and I installed the drivers fine yesterday! Wow, I am am really angry I switched to vista, I don't see much advantage and I have had 3 days of pure hell trying to resolve all the issues.!!! Please help! "Joshua" wrote: try disabling the uac (user account control) that will solve most problems and if you still can't install or do the run as... try switching your account type to administator. "David Johnson" wrote: Seems I have the same problems as many users out there. I am the ONLY user on my computer and I can't do many tasks I enjoyed on past versions of Windows because I have to ask the "Administrator" to do t for me. I get enough of that on the Job. I am running Vista Home Premium. The latest "you can't do that!" involved installing my printer software and I'm told I can't use "Run as..". I must log off and log in as Administrator or else have the Administrator do it for me. I am at home for god's sake! I am the only user. Sorry but I am frustrated. Did I miss something at install and would it be easier to just reinstall? Please help. David |