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FIXING VISTA WIRELESS NETWORKING PROBLEMS - SEVERAL SOLUTIONS
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Best possible solution to this problem, would be consider of doing the following. 1. Make sure your Router's Settings is 100% Correct. 2. Try on a different Laptop or PC thats running on Vista, if that Wirless Network + Internet Work, then its defintely your Wirless Adapters Problem, becasue you know for a face that theirs nothing wrong with the ROUTER. 3. Consider purchasing a new adapter, doesnt have to be Wirless N, cheap Wirless G will the do trick, if its suits you the best. ( Remember to buy it from Retail Shop such as Dick Smith, as they can be refunded ) Please Do note: Never purchase Dlink products, as they are hopeless, Linksys what i regard as the forfront of the Networking world. Almost all the solutions Forums on The net DONT WORK for this Vista Wireless problem, Mines got fixed, after i discovered it was my adapter problem. Hope it helps !!!! "Bill Wood" wrote: For all of you "techies" out there, before I even go through the fixes, do NOT waste your time with the Alternate IP configuration options on the wireless adapter. THEY FLAT DON'T WORK AT ALL in Vista. If you have a wireless access point, and you KNOW it works on other computers, but you get a "local only" message from Vista, the built-in DHCP router in your Wireless Access Point probably is NOT compatible with Vista... Here is one solution that may work for SOME routers (but it does NOT work for all of them!) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233/en-us If this does not work, and you still get the "local only" message, but you KNOW the access point works with XP wireless, etc., then MANUALLY SET the IP address info. Unfortunately, if you have to manually set the IP info, you will have to delete those settings with other wireless access points. And let me say one more time, DO NOT waste your time with the Alternate IP configuration, it doesn't work! http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928152/en-us (affects mostly wireless on laptops) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929847/en-us (Vista and XP together in a wireless environment) If your Gateway is on a different subnet (usually locations with large numbers of wireless spots such as businesses, universities, etc.) then you may have connection problems that FORCE you to manually configure your IP settings on the adapter. This is a FIX for XP SP2 that doesn't look like it made it into Vista, so, if you are experiencing this problem, LIKE ME, then you have no choice but to manually configure the IP settings. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=822596 If you are having periodic connection problems (and you know they didn't exist before), Vista has changed the Automitic IP Address discovery timing to be almost instantaneous. So if you have an older wireless access point, or one that has long broadcast / "handshake" times, then you may have trouble because of this "improvement." http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931550/en-us (MS Does not provide a solution, only info. Like the other options, you will likely have to MANUALLY set up your IP info in the adapter, or purchase a new wireless access point.) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929824/en-us (problems if you have the SAME Gateway address as the one assigned to the computer you are trying to connect to the Wireless spot). ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To see your adapter info, use a command prompt window (Start Run type in CMD) and then type: ipconfig /all Find your network adapter and write down the Gateway, DNS, IP Address, and other settings. Also, go to the EVENT VIEWER and see if there are any messages related to you trying to connect to your wireless adapter at the times you tried to connect. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Regardless of the problem, if you KNOW the wireless spot works, and you had little or no trouble on XP, try MANUALLY setting up the IP info for that wireless access point. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I'm VERY disappointed at how many problems there are with the Vista wireless networking. Especially when SO MANY of the early Vista users are exactly the same customer base that USES WIRELESS! |
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FIXING VISTA WIRELESS NETWORKING PROBLEMS - SEVERAL SOLUTIONS
Thank you for the solutions.
Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com "asian_dude" wrote in message ... Hi Best possible solution to this problem, would be consider of doing the following. 1. Make sure your Router's Settings is 100% Correct. 2. Try on a different Laptop or PC thats running on Vista, if that Wirless Network + Internet Work, then its defintely your Wirless Adapters Problem, becasue you know for a face that theirs nothing wrong with the ROUTER. 3. Consider purchasing a new adapter, doesnt have to be Wirless N, cheap Wirless G will the do trick, if its suits you the best. ( Remember to buy it from Retail Shop such as Dick Smith, as they can be refunded ) Please Do note: Never purchase Dlink products, as they are hopeless, Linksys what i regard as the forfront of the Networking world. Almost all the solutions Forums on The net DONT WORK for this Vista Wireless problem, Mines got fixed, after i discovered it was my adapter problem. Hope it helps !!!! "Bill Wood" wrote: For all of you "techies" out there, before I even go through the fixes, do NOT waste your time with the Alternate IP configuration options on the wireless adapter. THEY FLAT DON'T WORK AT ALL in Vista. If you have a wireless access point, and you KNOW it works on other computers, but you get a "local only" message from Vista, the built-in DHCP router in your Wireless Access Point probably is NOT compatible with Vista... Here is one solution that may work for SOME routers (but it does NOT work for all of them!) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233/en-us If this does not work, and you still get the "local only" message, but you KNOW the access point works with XP wireless, etc., then MANUALLY SET the IP address info. Unfortunately, if you have to manually set the IP info, you will have to delete those settings with other wireless access points. And let me say one more time, DO NOT waste your time with the Alternate IP configuration, it doesn't work! http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928152/en-us (affects mostly wireless on laptops) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929847/en-us (Vista and XP together in a wireless environment) If your Gateway is on a different subnet (usually locations with large numbers of wireless spots such as businesses, universities, etc.) then you may have connection problems that FORCE you to manually configure your IP settings on the adapter. This is a FIX for XP SP2 that doesn't look like it made it into Vista, so, if you are experiencing this problem, LIKE ME, then you have no choice but to manually configure the IP settings. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=822596 If you are having periodic connection problems (and you know they didn't exist before), Vista has changed the Automitic IP Address discovery timing to be almost instantaneous. So if you have an older wireless access point, or one that has long broadcast / "handshake" times, then you may have trouble because of this "improvement." http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931550/en-us (MS Does not provide a solution, only info. Like the other options, you will likely have to MANUALLY set up your IP info in the adapter, or purchase a new wireless access point.) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929824/en-us (problems if you have the SAME Gateway address as the one assigned to the computer you are trying to connect to the Wireless spot). ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To see your adapter info, use a command prompt window (Start Run type in CMD) and then type: ipconfig /all Find your network adapter and write down the Gateway, DNS, IP Address, and other settings. Also, go to the EVENT VIEWER and see if there are any messages related to you trying to connect to your wireless adapter at the times you tried to connect. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Regardless of the problem, if you KNOW the wireless spot works, and you had little or no trouble on XP, try MANUALLY setting up the IP info for that wireless access point. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I'm VERY disappointed at how many problems there are with the Vista wireless networking. Especially when SO MANY of the early Vista users are exactly the same customer base that USES WIRELESS! |
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FIXING VISTA WIRELESS NETWORKING PROBLEMS - SEVERAL SOLUTIONS
Hello Bill thanks for your post.
Can I add that it's not just Wireless networks. My Vista machine can not connect to dlink router wired networks either. I bought a Sony Vaio UX Palmtop running Vista but I find although it works with my wireless network at home I can not use it to connect to wireless hotspots when I travel. Vista is a disgrace - there is no other word for it. I now have to figure out how to get the little UX back to Windows XP despite it having a zillion onboard devices that i will need to find drivers for. Absolute nightmare. Microsoft - you deserve to be shot in the head and then left to rot in hell. This forum is just a mass of posts about local only connections and no one with any answers and idiot MSVPs just saying please find a new driver or please reinstall Vista. |
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FIXING VISTA WIRELESS NETWORKING PROBLEMS - SEVERAL SOLUTIONS
This system is very dissapointing. I am glad I have time to return my laptop to the store. I am now going to go buy a Dell Laptop from the Dell store and specifically purchase it with XP. Although XP is harder to get now, it is worth finding. |
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FIXING VISTA WIRELESS NETWORKING PROBLEMS - SEVERAL SOLUTIONS
Thanx a million Bill, you're a genius! I have been having sleepness nights
about this problem. Best Wishes and Regards Sainty "Bill Wood" wrote: For all of you "techies" out there, before I even go through the fixes, do NOT waste your time with the Alternate IP configuration options on the wireless adapter. THEY FLAT DON'T WORK AT ALL in Vista. If you have a wireless access point, and you KNOW it works on other computers, but you get a "local only" message from Vista, the built-in DHCP router in your Wireless Access Point probably is NOT compatible with Vista... Here is one solution that may work for SOME routers (but it does NOT work for all of them!) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233/en-us If this does not work, and you still get the "local only" message, but you KNOW the access point works with XP wireless, etc., then MANUALLY SET the IP address info. Unfortunately, if you have to manually set the IP info, you will have to delete those settings with other wireless access points. And let me say one more time, DO NOT waste your time with the Alternate IP configuration, it doesn't work! http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928152/en-us (affects mostly wireless on laptops) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929847/en-us (Vista and XP together in a wireless environment) If your Gateway is on a different subnet (usually locations with large numbers of wireless spots such as businesses, universities, etc.) then you may have connection problems that FORCE you to manually configure your IP settings on the adapter. This is a FIX for XP SP2 that doesn't look like it made it into Vista, so, if you are experiencing this problem, LIKE ME, then you have no choice but to manually configure the IP settings. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=822596 If you are having periodic connection problems (and you know they didn't exist before), Vista has changed the Automitic IP Address discovery timing to be almost instantaneous. So if you have an older wireless access point, or one that has long broadcast / "handshake" times, then you may have trouble because of this "improvement." http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931550/en-us (MS Does not provide a solution, only info. Like the other options, you will likely have to MANUALLY set up your IP info in the adapter, or purchase a new wireless access point.) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929824/en-us (problems if you have the SAME Gateway address as the one assigned to the computer you are trying to connect to the Wireless spot). ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To see your adapter info, use a command prompt window (Start Run type in CMD) and then type: ipconfig /all Find your network adapter and write down the Gateway, DNS, IP Address, and other settings. Also, go to the EVENT VIEWER and see if there are any messages related to you trying to connect to your wireless adapter at the times you tried to connect. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Regardless of the problem, if you KNOW the wireless spot works, and you had little or no trouble on XP, try MANUALLY setting up the IP info for that wireless access point. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I'm VERY disappointed at how many problems there are with the Vista wireless networking. Especially when SO MANY of the early Vista users are exactly the same customer base that USES WIRELESS! |
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FIXING VISTA WIRELESS NETWORKING PROBLEMS - SEVERAL SOLUTIONS
I've worked through several reinstallations of Vista on this one, configured
the registry key so as to not broadcast DHCP, I've manually configured my IP to be an IP on my network, and none of it works. I've set the network for wireless to be private. I show the adapter as being connected, excellent signal strength, I have no 3rd party firewall software installed. When I ping my gateway with a manual IP assigned it replies with the local IP I picked saying "Destination host unreachable" - certainly to me seems like it's a problem within Vista someplace. I have had numerous XP wireless machine connected to this without a problem. I'm even running Vista SP1 "Bill Wood" wrote: For all of you "techies" out there, before I even go through the fixes, do NOT waste your time with the Alternate IP configuration options on the wireless adapter. THEY FLAT DON'T WORK AT ALL in Vista. If you have a wireless access point, and you KNOW it works on other computers, but you get a "local only" message from Vista, the built-in DHCP router in your Wireless Access Point probably is NOT compatible with Vista... Here is one solution that may work for SOME routers (but it does NOT work for all of them!) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233/en-us If this does not work, and you still get the "local only" message, but you KNOW the access point works with XP wireless, etc., then MANUALLY SET the IP address info. Unfortunately, if you have to manually set the IP info, you will have to delete those settings with other wireless access points. And let me say one more time, DO NOT waste your time with the Alternate IP configuration, it doesn't work! http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928152/en-us (affects mostly wireless on laptops) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929847/en-us (Vista and XP together in a wireless environment) If your Gateway is on a different subnet (usually locations with large numbers of wireless spots such as businesses, universities, etc.) then you may have connection problems that FORCE you to manually configure your IP settings on the adapter. This is a FIX for XP SP2 that doesn't look like it made it into Vista, so, if you are experiencing this problem, LIKE ME, then you have no choice but to manually configure the IP settings. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=822596 If you are having periodic connection problems (and you know they didn't exist before), Vista has changed the Automitic IP Address discovery timing to be almost instantaneous. So if you have an older wireless access point, or one that has long broadcast / "handshake" times, then you may have trouble because of this "improvement." http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931550/en-us (MS Does not provide a solution, only info. Like the other options, you will likely have to MANUALLY set up your IP info in the adapter, or purchase a new wireless access point.) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929824/en-us (problems if you have the SAME Gateway address as the one assigned to the computer you are trying to connect to the Wireless spot). ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To see your adapter info, use a command prompt window (Start Run type in CMD) and then type: ipconfig /all Find your network adapter and write down the Gateway, DNS, IP Address, and other settings. Also, go to the EVENT VIEWER and see if there are any messages related to you trying to connect to your wireless adapter at the times you tried to connect. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Regardless of the problem, if you KNOW the wireless spot works, and you had little or no trouble on XP, try MANUALLY setting up the IP info for that wireless access point. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I'm VERY disappointed at how many problems there are with the Vista wireless networking. Especially when SO MANY of the early Vista users are exactly the same customer base that USES WIRELESS! |
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FIXING VISTA WIRELESS NETWORKING PROBLEMS - SEVERAL SOLUTIONS
I have this same "local only " problem with my computer running Vista. I
returned a Compaq thinking it was a computer issue and purchased a very good Gateway. Turns out Vista is the culprit. I drive for a living and MUST use public wi-fi to use the internet. Seems I will be turning this one in for a refund and buying a Mac. There's too little time for these problems. Ill never own another Windows system as long as I live. |
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FIXING VISTA WIRELESS NETWORKING PROBLEMS - SEVERAL SOLUTIONS
Yes my adapter is getting the 169. address automatically assigned. I may
have forgotten to mention in my initial post as well that I disabled IPv6 on the adapter. I get the destination unreachable when I assign the TCP/IP address properties manually myself to match that of another wired machine on the network(but with obviously a unique IP). "Robert L. (MS-MVP)" wrote: If you receive "Destination host unreachable" it could the TCP/IP issue. Do you have 169.254.x.x IP. Post back the result of ipconfig may help. -- Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com "Frustrated at wits end" Frustrated at wits wrote in message ... I've worked through several reinstallations of Vista on this one, configured the registry key so as to not broadcast DHCP, I've manually configured my IP to be an IP on my network, and none of it works. I've set the network for wireless to be private. I show the adapter as being connected, excellent signal strength, I have no 3rd party firewall software installed. When I ping my gateway with a manual IP assigned it replies with the local IP I picked saying "Destination host unreachable" - certainly to me seems like it's a problem within Vista someplace. I have had numerous XP wireless machine connected to this without a problem. I'm even running Vista SP1 "Bill Wood" wrote: For all of you "techies" out there, before I even go through the fixes, do NOT waste your time with the Alternate IP configuration options on the wireless adapter. THEY FLAT DON'T WORK AT ALL in Vista. If you have a wireless access point, and you KNOW it works on other computers, but you get a "local only" message from Vista, the built-in DHCP router in your Wireless Access Point probably is NOT compatible with Vista... Here is one solution that may work for SOME routers (but it does NOT work for all of them!) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233/en-us If this does not work, and you still get the "local only" message, but you KNOW the access point works with XP wireless, etc., then MANUALLY SET the IP address info. Unfortunately, if you have to manually set the IP info, you will have to delete those settings with other wireless access points. And let me say one more time, DO NOT waste your time with the Alternate IP configuration, it doesn't work! http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928152/en-us (affects mostly wireless on laptops) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929847/en-us (Vista and XP together in a wireless environment) If your Gateway is on a different subnet (usually locations with large numbers of wireless spots such as businesses, universities, etc.) then you may have connection problems that FORCE you to manually configure your IP settings on the adapter. This is a FIX for XP SP2 that doesn't look like it made it into Vista, so, if you are experiencing this problem, LIKE ME, then you have no choice but to manually configure the IP settings. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=822596 If you are having periodic connection problems (and you know they didn't exist before), Vista has changed the Automitic IP Address discovery timing to be almost instantaneous. So if you have an older wireless access point, or one that has long broadcast / "handshake" times, then you may have trouble because of this "improvement." http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931550/en-us (MS Does not provide a solution, only info. Like the other options, you will likely have to MANUALLY set up your IP info in the adapter, or purchase a new wireless access point.) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929824/en-us (problems if you have the SAME Gateway address as the one assigned to the computer you are trying to connect to the Wireless spot). ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To see your adapter info, use a command prompt window (Start Run type in CMD) and then type: ipconfig /all Find your network adapter and write down the Gateway, DNS, IP Address, and other settings. Also, go to the EVENT VIEWER and see if there are any messages related to you trying to connect to your wireless adapter at the times you tried to connect. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Regardless of the problem, if you KNOW the wireless spot works, and you had little or no trouble on XP, try MANUALLY setting up the IP info for that wireless access point. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I'm VERY disappointed at how many problems there are with the Vista wireless networking. Especially when SO MANY of the early Vista users are exactly the same customer base that USES WIRELESS! |
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FIXING VISTA WIRELESS NETWORKING PROBLEMS - SEVERAL SOLUTIONS
If you have new firmware, driver, and disable IPv6 and use static IP, the
last suggestion I can give to you is remove the IPv6 from the OS completely (note it is move than disable it). Please post back with the result. Vista IPCONFIG and Network SettingsHow to disable Auto-tuning on Windows Vista How to disable TCP/IPv6 How to remove IPv6 and Tunnel completely on Vista How to disable ICS public connection ... www.howtonetworking.com/vista/vistaipconfig.htm -- Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com "Frustrated at wits end" wrote in message ... Yes my adapter is getting the 169. address automatically assigned. I may have forgotten to mention in my initial post as well that I disabled IPv6 on the adapter. I get the destination unreachable when I assign the TCP/IP address properties manually myself to match that of another wired machine on the network(but with obviously a unique IP). "Robert L. (MS-MVP)" wrote: If you receive "Destination host unreachable" it could the TCP/IP issue. Do you have 169.254.x.x IP. Post back the result of ipconfig may help. -- Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com "Frustrated at wits end" Frustrated at wits wrote in message ... I've worked through several reinstallations of Vista on this one, configured the registry key so as to not broadcast DHCP, I've manually configured my IP to be an IP on my network, and none of it works. I've set the network for wireless to be private. I show the adapter as being connected, excellent signal strength, I have no 3rd party firewall software installed. When I ping my gateway with a manual IP assigned it replies with the local IP I picked saying "Destination host unreachable" - certainly to me seems like it's a problem within Vista someplace. I have had numerous XP wireless machine connected to this without a problem. I'm even running Vista SP1 "Bill Wood" wrote: For all of you "techies" out there, before I even go through the fixes, do NOT waste your time with the Alternate IP configuration options on the wireless adapter. THEY FLAT DON'T WORK AT ALL in Vista. If you have a wireless access point, and you KNOW it works on other computers, but you get a "local only" message from Vista, the built-in DHCP router in your Wireless Access Point probably is NOT compatible with Vista... Here is one solution that may work for SOME routers (but it does NOT work for all of them!) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233/en-us If this does not work, and you still get the "local only" message, but you KNOW the access point works with XP wireless, etc., then MANUALLY SET the IP address info. Unfortunately, if you have to manually set the IP info, you will have to delete those settings with other wireless access points. And let me say one more time, DO NOT waste your time with the Alternate IP configuration, it doesn't work! http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928152/en-us (affects mostly wireless on laptops) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929847/en-us (Vista and XP together in a wireless environment) If your Gateway is on a different subnet (usually locations with large numbers of wireless spots such as businesses, universities, etc.) then you may have connection problems that FORCE you to manually configure your IP settings on the adapter. This is a FIX for XP SP2 that doesn't look like it made it into Vista, so, if you are experiencing this problem, LIKE ME, then you have no choice but to manually configure the IP settings. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=822596 If you are having periodic connection problems (and you know they didn't exist before), Vista has changed the Automitic IP Address discovery timing to be almost instantaneous. So if you have an older wireless access point, or one that has long broadcast / "handshake" times, then you may have trouble because of this "improvement." http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931550/en-us (MS Does not provide a solution, only info. Like the other options, you will likely have to MANUALLY set up your IP info in the adapter, or purchase a new wireless access point.) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929824/en-us (problems if you have the SAME Gateway address as the one assigned to the computer you are trying to connect to the Wireless spot). ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To see your adapter info, use a command prompt window (Start Run type in CMD) and then type: ipconfig /all Find your network adapter and write down the Gateway, DNS, IP Address, and other settings. Also, go to the EVENT VIEWER and see if there are any messages related to you trying to connect to your wireless adapter at the times you tried to connect. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Regardless of the problem, if you KNOW the wireless spot works, and you had little or no trouble on XP, try MANUALLY setting up the IP info for that wireless access point. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I'm VERY disappointed at how many problems there are with the Vista wireless networking. Especially when SO MANY of the early Vista users are exactly the same customer base that USES WIRELESS! |