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FIXING VISTA WIRELESS NETWORKING PROBLEMS - SEVERAL SOLUTIONS
For all of you "techies" out there, before I even go through the fixes, do
NOT waste your time with the Alternate IP configuration options on the wireless adapter. THEY FLAT DON'T WORK AT ALL in Vista. If you have a wireless access point, and you KNOW it works on other computers, but you get a "local only" message from Vista, the built-in DHCP router in your Wireless Access Point probably is NOT compatible with Vista... Here is one solution that may work for SOME routers (but it does NOT work for all of them!) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233/en-us If this does not work, and you still get the "local only" message, but you KNOW the access point works with XP wireless, etc., then MANUALLY SET the IP address info. Unfortunately, if you have to manually set the IP info, you will have to delete those settings with other wireless access points. And let me say one more time, DO NOT waste your time with the Alternate IP configuration, it doesn't work! http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928152/en-us (affects mostly wireless on laptops) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929847/en-us (Vista and XP together in a wireless environment) If your Gateway is on a different subnet (usually locations with large numbers of wireless spots such as businesses, universities, etc.) then you may have connection problems that FORCE you to manually configure your IP settings on the adapter. This is a FIX for XP SP2 that doesn't look like it made it into Vista, so, if you are experiencing this problem, LIKE ME, then you have no choice but to manually configure the IP settings. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=822596 If you are having periodic connection problems (and you know they didn't exist before), Vista has changed the Automitic IP Address discovery timing to be almost instantaneous. So if you have an older wireless access point, or one that has long broadcast / "handshake" times, then you may have trouble because of this "improvement." http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931550/en-us (MS Does not provide a solution, only info. Like the other options, you will likely have to MANUALLY set up your IP info in the adapter, or purchase a new wireless access point.) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929824/en-us (problems if you have the SAME Gateway address as the one assigned to the computer you are trying to connect to the Wireless spot). ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To see your adapter info, use a command prompt window (Start Run type in CMD) and then type: ipconfig /all Find your network adapter and write down the Gateway, DNS, IP Address, and other settings. Also, go to the EVENT VIEWER and see if there are any messages related to you trying to connect to your wireless adapter at the times you tried to connect. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Regardless of the problem, if you KNOW the wireless spot works, and you had little or no trouble on XP, try MANUALLY setting up the IP info for that wireless access point. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I'm VERY disappointed at how many problems there are with the Vista wireless networking. Especially when SO MANY of the early Vista users are exactly the same customer base that USES WIRELESS! |
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FIXING VISTA WIRELESS NETWORKING PROBLEMS - SEVERAL SOLUTIONS
what router and firmware version are you using?
On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:48:10 -0800, Bill Wood wrote: For all of you "techies" out there, before I even go through the fixes, do NOT waste your time with the Alternate IP configuration options on the wireless adapter. THEY FLAT DON'T WORK AT ALL in Vista. If you have a wireless access point, and you KNOW it works on other computers, but you get a "local only" message from Vista, the built-in DHCP router in your Wireless Access Point probably is NOT compatible with Vista... Here is one solution that may work for SOME routers (but it does NOT work for all of them!) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233/en-us If this does not work, and you still get the "local only" message, but you KNOW the access point works with XP wireless, etc., then MANUALLY SET the IP address info. Unfortunately, if you have to manually set the IP info, you will have to delete those settings with other wireless access points. And let me say one more time, DO NOT waste your time with the Alternate IP configuration, it doesn't work! http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928152/en-us (affects mostly wireless on laptops) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929847/en-us (Vista and XP together in a wireless environment) If your Gateway is on a different subnet (usually locations with large numbers of wireless spots such as businesses, universities, etc.) then you may have connection problems that FORCE you to manually configure your IP settings on the adapter. This is a FIX for XP SP2 that doesn't look like it made it into Vista, so, if you are experiencing this problem, LIKE ME, then you have no choice but to manually configure the IP settings. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=822596 If you are having periodic connection problems (and you know they didn't exist before), Vista has changed the Automitic IP Address discovery timing to be almost instantaneous. So if you have an older wireless access point, or one that has long broadcast / "handshake" times, then you may have trouble because of this "improvement." http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931550/en-us (MS Does not provide a solution, only info. Like the other options, you will likely have to MANUALLY set up your IP info in the adapter, or purchase a new wireless access point.) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929824/en-us (problems if you have the SAME Gateway address as the one assigned to the computer you are trying to connect to the Wireless spot). ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To see your adapter info, use a command prompt window (Start Run type in CMD) and then type: ipconfig /all Find your network adapter and write down the Gateway, DNS, IP Address, and other settings. Also, go to the EVENT VIEWER and see if there are any messages related to you trying to connect to your wireless adapter at the times you tried to connect. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Regardless of the problem, if you KNOW the wireless spot works, and you had little or no trouble on XP, try MANUALLY setting up the IP info for that wireless access point. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I'm VERY disappointed at how many problems there are with the Vista wireless networking. Especially when SO MANY of the early Vista users are exactly the same customer base that USES WIRELESS! -- Barb Bowman MS Windows-MVP Expert Zone & Vista Community Columnist http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/ |
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FIXING VISTA WIRELESS NETWORKING PROBLEMS - SEVERAL SOLUTIONS
Thank you, Bill.
As you know, many (if not all) of us are experiencing problems getting wireless networking to function properly with the new Vista operating system. Hopefully one of your suggestions will provide us with a roadmap to a solution. Much appreciated, Papa |
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FIXING VISTA WIRELESS NETWORKING PROBLEMS - SEVERAL SOLUTIONS
Thanks Barb for your interest. However my specific issue is not as much with
the access point as it is with an XP SP2 "fix" that doesn't look like it made it into Vista. My Gateway is on a totally different subnet. I'm also in a working environment, in a large corporation, with about 30 access points. NONE of them are broadcasting SSID's (no problem there), and they are all using WEP 128. The Wireless access points are high-end Cisco's... Like I said though, based on the messages I'm getting, and some of the testing I've done, it is specifically related to not being able to determine the Gateway when it is on a different subnet. This is a FIX for XP SP2 that doesn't look like it made it into Vista. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=822596 "Barb Bowman" wrote: what router and firmware version are you using? On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:48:10 -0800, Bill Wood wrote: For all of you "techies" out there, before I even go through the fixes, do NOT waste your time with the Alternate IP configuration options on the wireless adapter. THEY FLAT DON'T WORK AT ALL in Vista. If you have a wireless access point, and you KNOW it works on other computers, but you get a "local only" message from Vista, the built-in DHCP router in your Wireless Access Point probably is NOT compatible with Vista... Here is one solution that may work for SOME routers (but it does NOT work for all of them!) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233/en-us If this does not work, and you still get the "local only" message, but you KNOW the access point works with XP wireless, etc., then MANUALLY SET the IP address info. Unfortunately, if you have to manually set the IP info, you will have to delete those settings with other wireless access points. And let me say one more time, DO NOT waste your time with the Alternate IP configuration, it doesn't work! http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928152/en-us (affects mostly wireless on laptops) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929847/en-us (Vista and XP together in a wireless environment) If your Gateway is on a different subnet (usually locations with large numbers of wireless spots such as businesses, universities, etc.) then you may have connection problems that FORCE you to manually configure your IP settings on the adapter. This is a FIX for XP SP2 that doesn't look like it made it into Vista, so, if you are experiencing this problem, LIKE ME, then you have no choice but to manually configure the IP settings. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=822596 If you are having periodic connection problems (and you know they didn't exist before), Vista has changed the Automitic IP Address discovery timing to be almost instantaneous. So if you have an older wireless access point, or one that has long broadcast / "handshake" times, then you may have trouble because of this "improvement." http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931550/en-us (MS Does not provide a solution, only info. Like the other options, you will likely have to MANUALLY set up your IP info in the adapter, or purchase a new wireless access point.) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929824/en-us (problems if you have the SAME Gateway address as the one assigned to the computer you are trying to connect to the Wireless spot). ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To see your adapter info, use a command prompt window (Start Run type in CMD) and then type: ipconfig /all Find your network adapter and write down the Gateway, DNS, IP Address, and other settings. Also, go to the EVENT VIEWER and see if there are any messages related to you trying to connect to your wireless adapter at the times you tried to connect. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Regardless of the problem, if you KNOW the wireless spot works, and you had little or no trouble on XP, try MANUALLY setting up the IP info for that wireless access point. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I'm VERY disappointed at how many problems there are with the Vista wireless networking. Especially when SO MANY of the early Vista users are exactly the same customer base that USES WIRELESS! -- Barb Bowman MS Windows-MVP Expert Zone & Vista Community Columnist http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/ |
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FIXING VISTA WIRELESS NETWORKING PROBLEMS - SEVERAL SOLUTIONS
never saw a reference to corp/enterprise or EAP etc. in your post,
so I assumed this was a standalone residential network. do you have a MS contact for your company you can escalate through? On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:11:20 -0800, Bill Wood wrote: Thanks Barb for your interest. However my specific issue is not as much with the access point as it is with an XP SP2 "fix" that doesn't look like it made it into Vista. My Gateway is on a totally different subnet. I'm also in a working environment, in a large corporation, with about 30 access points. NONE of them are broadcasting SSID's (no problem there), and they are all using WEP 128. The Wireless access points are high-end Cisco's... Like I said though, based on the messages I'm getting, and some of the testing I've done, it is specifically related to not being able to determine the Gateway when it is on a different subnet. This is a FIX for XP SP2 that doesn't look like it made it into Vista. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=822596 "Barb Bowman" wrote: what router and firmware version are you using? On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:48:10 -0800, Bill Wood wrote: For all of you "techies" out there, before I even go through the fixes, do NOT waste your time with the Alternate IP configuration options on the wireless adapter. THEY FLAT DON'T WORK AT ALL in Vista. If you have a wireless access point, and you KNOW it works on other computers, but you get a "local only" message from Vista, the built-in DHCP router in your Wireless Access Point probably is NOT compatible with Vista... Here is one solution that may work for SOME routers (but it does NOT work for all of them!) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233/en-us If this does not work, and you still get the "local only" message, but you KNOW the access point works with XP wireless, etc., then MANUALLY SET the IP address info. Unfortunately, if you have to manually set the IP info, you will have to delete those settings with other wireless access points. And let me say one more time, DO NOT waste your time with the Alternate IP configuration, it doesn't work! http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928152/en-us (affects mostly wireless on laptops) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929847/en-us (Vista and XP together in a wireless environment) If your Gateway is on a different subnet (usually locations with large numbers of wireless spots such as businesses, universities, etc.) then you may have connection problems that FORCE you to manually configure your IP settings on the adapter. This is a FIX for XP SP2 that doesn't look like it made it into Vista, so, if you are experiencing this problem, LIKE ME, then you have no choice but to manually configure the IP settings. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=822596 If you are having periodic connection problems (and you know they didn't exist before), Vista has changed the Automitic IP Address discovery timing to be almost instantaneous. So if you have an older wireless access point, or one that has long broadcast / "handshake" times, then you may have trouble because of this "improvement." http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931550/en-us (MS Does not provide a solution, only info. Like the other options, you will likely have to MANUALLY set up your IP info in the adapter, or purchase a new wireless access point.) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929824/en-us (problems if you have the SAME Gateway address as the one assigned to the computer you are trying to connect to the Wireless spot). ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To see your adapter info, use a command prompt window (Start Run type in CMD) and then type: ipconfig /all Find your network adapter and write down the Gateway, DNS, IP Address, and other settings. Also, go to the EVENT VIEWER and see if there are any messages related to you trying to connect to your wireless adapter at the times you tried to connect. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Regardless of the problem, if you KNOW the wireless spot works, and you had little or no trouble on XP, try MANUALLY setting up the IP info for that wireless access point. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I'm VERY disappointed at how many problems there are with the Vista wireless networking. Especially when SO MANY of the early Vista users are exactly the same customer base that USES WIRELESS! -- Barb Bowman MS Windows-MVP Expert Zone & Vista Community Columnist http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/ -- Barb Bowman MS Windows-MVP Expert Zone & Vista Community Columnist http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/ |
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FIXING VISTA WIRELESS NETWORKING PROBLEMS - SEVERAL SOLUTIONS
I'm an IT contractor at a client site who has chosen not to adopt Vista
because of VPN problems. I seriously doubt they are going to escalate a wireless issue for me, especially since I have a manual workaround. And when I'm home, my wireless network is fine. I don't have any trouble at all with it. Probably my biggest aggravation is that the Alternate IP config doesn't work, AT ALL... It wouldn't bother me having to use manual IP settings if I didn't have to do it EVERY TIME I change from business to hotel to home, or other places. What a royal PAIN! I guess my frustration stems from the fact that I would have expected that the networking piece would have been more "bulletproof" in Vista... "Barb Bowman" wrote: never saw a reference to corp/enterprise or EAP etc. in your post, so I assumed this was a standalone residential network. do you have a MS contact for your company you can escalate through? On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:11:20 -0800, Bill Wood wrote: Thanks Barb for your interest. However my specific issue is not as much with the access point as it is with an XP SP2 "fix" that doesn't look like it made it into Vista. My Gateway is on a totally different subnet. I'm also in a working environment, in a large corporation, with about 30 access points. NONE of them are broadcasting SSID's (no problem there), and they are all using WEP 128. The Wireless access points are high-end Cisco's... Like I said though, based on the messages I'm getting, and some of the testing I've done, it is specifically related to not being able to determine the Gateway when it is on a different subnet. This is a FIX for XP SP2 that doesn't look like it made it into Vista. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=822596 "Barb Bowman" wrote: what router and firmware version are you using? On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:48:10 -0800, Bill Wood wrote: For all of you "techies" out there, before I even go through the fixes, do NOT waste your time with the Alternate IP configuration options on the wireless adapter. THEY FLAT DON'T WORK AT ALL in Vista. If you have a wireless access point, and you KNOW it works on other computers, but you get a "local only" message from Vista, the built-in DHCP router in your Wireless Access Point probably is NOT compatible with Vista... Here is one solution that may work for SOME routers (but it does NOT work for all of them!) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233/en-us If this does not work, and you still get the "local only" message, but you KNOW the access point works with XP wireless, etc., then MANUALLY SET the IP address info. Unfortunately, if you have to manually set the IP info, you will have to delete those settings with other wireless access points. And let me say one more time, DO NOT waste your time with the Alternate IP configuration, it doesn't work! http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928152/en-us (affects mostly wireless on laptops) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929847/en-us (Vista and XP together in a wireless environment) If your Gateway is on a different subnet (usually locations with large numbers of wireless spots such as businesses, universities, etc.) then you may have connection problems that FORCE you to manually configure your IP settings on the adapter. This is a FIX for XP SP2 that doesn't look like it made it into Vista, so, if you are experiencing this problem, LIKE ME, then you have no choice but to manually configure the IP settings. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=822596 If you are having periodic connection problems (and you know they didn't exist before), Vista has changed the Automitic IP Address discovery timing to be almost instantaneous. So if you have an older wireless access point, or one that has long broadcast / "handshake" times, then you may have trouble because of this "improvement." http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931550/en-us (MS Does not provide a solution, only info. Like the other options, you will likely have to MANUALLY set up your IP info in the adapter, or purchase a new wireless access point.) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929824/en-us (problems if you have the SAME Gateway address as the one assigned to the computer you are trying to connect to the Wireless spot). ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To see your adapter info, use a command prompt window (Start Run type in CMD) and then type: ipconfig /all Find your network adapter and write down the Gateway, DNS, IP Address, and other settings. Also, go to the EVENT VIEWER and see if there are any messages related to you trying to connect to your wireless adapter at the times you tried to connect. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Regardless of the problem, if you KNOW the wireless spot works, and you had little or no trouble on XP, try MANUALLY setting up the IP info for that wireless access point. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I'm VERY disappointed at how many problems there are with the Vista wireless networking. Especially when SO MANY of the early Vista users are exactly the same customer base that USES WIRELESS! -- Barb Bowman MS Windows-MVP Expert Zone & Vista Community Columnist http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/ -- Barb Bowman MS Windows-MVP Expert Zone & Vista Community Columnist http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/ |
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FIXING VISTA WIRELESS NETWORKING PROBLEMS - SEVERAL SOLUTIONS
I had this problem suddenly occur when using my home router - it had
worked fine for several days, and than today I received this 'unidentified network - local only' notification. The only solution that worked for me was to uninstall & reinstall my network adapter. I would hope there is a more elegant solution. |
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FIXING VISTA WIRELESS NETWORKING PROBLEMS - SEVERAL SOLUTIONS
I finally gave up on trying to get wireless to work in my laptop. I had two
issues with Vista network. First my Wireless network Verizon did not have Vista drivers for my PC Card. Then their was the issue at home connecting to my router! I finally gave up and reinstalled XP. I had the same problem with my desktop machine with wireless connection. So I went back to Cat5 and so far so good. My only thought to Microsoft is have you never heard the saying" if it is'nt broke don't fix it" Well I think you should look that up! "Bill Wood" wrote: For all of you "techies" out there, before I even go through the fixes, do NOT waste your time with the Alternate IP configuration options on the wireless adapter. THEY FLAT DON'T WORK AT ALL in Vista. If you have a wireless access point, and you KNOW it works on other computers, but you get a "local only" message from Vista, the built-in DHCP router in your Wireless Access Point probably is NOT compatible with Vista... Here is one solution that may work for SOME routers (but it does NOT work for all of them!) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233/en-us If this does not work, and you still get the "local only" message, but you KNOW the access point works with XP wireless, etc., then MANUALLY SET the IP address info. Unfortunately, if you have to manually set the IP info, you will have to delete those settings with other wireless access points. And let me say one more time, DO NOT waste your time with the Alternate IP configuration, it doesn't work! http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928152/en-us (affects mostly wireless on laptops) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929847/en-us (Vista and XP together in a wireless environment) If your Gateway is on a different subnet (usually locations with large numbers of wireless spots such as businesses, universities, etc.) then you may have connection problems that FORCE you to manually configure your IP settings on the adapter. This is a FIX for XP SP2 that doesn't look like it made it into Vista, so, if you are experiencing this problem, LIKE ME, then you have no choice but to manually configure the IP settings. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=822596 If you are having periodic connection problems (and you know they didn't exist before), Vista has changed the Automitic IP Address discovery timing to be almost instantaneous. So if you have an older wireless access point, or one that has long broadcast / "handshake" times, then you may have trouble because of this "improvement." http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931550/en-us (MS Does not provide a solution, only info. Like the other options, you will likely have to MANUALLY set up your IP info in the adapter, or purchase a new wireless access point.) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929824/en-us (problems if you have the SAME Gateway address as the one assigned to the computer you are trying to connect to the Wireless spot). ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To see your adapter info, use a command prompt window (Start Run type in CMD) and then type: ipconfig /all Find your network adapter and write down the Gateway, DNS, IP Address, and other settings. Also, go to the EVENT VIEWER and see if there are any messages related to you trying to connect to your wireless adapter at the times you tried to connect. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Regardless of the problem, if you KNOW the wireless spot works, and you had little or no trouble on XP, try MANUALLY setting up the IP info for that wireless access point. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I'm VERY disappointed at how many problems there are with the Vista wireless networking. Especially when SO MANY of the early Vista users are exactly the same customer base that USES WIRELESS! |
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FIXING VISTA WIRELESS NETWORKING PROBLEMS - SEVERAL SOLUTIONS
i too am having problems.
several of the people with me have the exact same computer running windows xp and no problem. i have a dell latitude d610 with intel 2200bg pro wireless card. the diagnostics, etc. do not fix things. i have a clear connection to the wireless network here at the hotel but have been cutoff from the internet. it keeps saying i need a different firewall setting but even when i disable the firewall setting, it tells me there is a dns issue. this is a _serious_ problem and i am UTTERLY perplexed why things that worked in xp are changed like this? if this isn't fixed very soon, i'm going back to windows xp. and i'm also about to start giving in to my students repeated arguments that we should switch to macs. "Bill Wood" wrote: I'm an IT contractor at a client site who has chosen not to adopt Vista because of VPN problems. I seriously doubt they are going to escalate a wireless issue for me, especially since I have a manual workaround. And when I'm home, my wireless network is fine. I don't have any trouble at all with it. Probably my biggest aggravation is that the Alternate IP config doesn't work, AT ALL... It wouldn't bother me having to use manual IP settings if I didn't have to do it EVERY TIME I change from business to hotel to home, or other places. What a royal PAIN! I guess my frustration stems from the fact that I would have expected that the networking piece would have been more "bulletproof" in Vista... "Barb Bowman" wrote: never saw a reference to corp/enterprise or EAP etc. in your post, so I assumed this was a standalone residential network. do you have a MS contact for your company you can escalate through? On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:11:20 -0800, Bill Wood wrote: Thanks Barb for your interest. However my specific issue is not as much with the access point as it is with an XP SP2 "fix" that doesn't look like it made it into Vista. My Gateway is on a totally different subnet. I'm also in a working environment, in a large corporation, with about 30 access points. NONE of them are broadcasting SSID's (no problem there), and they are all using WEP 128. The Wireless access points are high-end Cisco's... Like I said though, based on the messages I'm getting, and some of the testing I've done, it is specifically related to not being able to determine the Gateway when it is on a different subnet. This is a FIX for XP SP2 that doesn't look like it made it into Vista. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=822596 "Barb Bowman" wrote: what router and firmware version are you using? On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:48:10 -0800, Bill Wood wrote: For all of you "techies" out there, before I even go through the fixes, do NOT waste your time with the Alternate IP configuration options on the wireless adapter. THEY FLAT DON'T WORK AT ALL in Vista. If you have a wireless access point, and you KNOW it works on other computers, but you get a "local only" message from Vista, the built-in DHCP router in your Wireless Access Point probably is NOT compatible with Vista... Here is one solution that may work for SOME routers (but it does NOT work for all of them!) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233/en-us If this does not work, and you still get the "local only" message, but you KNOW the access point works with XP wireless, etc., then MANUALLY SET the IP address info. Unfortunately, if you have to manually set the IP info, you will have to delete those settings with other wireless access points. And let me say one more time, DO NOT waste your time with the Alternate IP configuration, it doesn't work! http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928152/en-us (affects mostly wireless on laptops) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929847/en-us (Vista and XP together in a wireless environment) If your Gateway is on a different subnet (usually locations with large numbers of wireless spots such as businesses, universities, etc.) then you may have connection problems that FORCE you to manually configure your IP settings on the adapter. This is a FIX for XP SP2 that doesn't look like it made it into Vista, so, if you are experiencing this problem, LIKE ME, then you have no choice but to manually configure the IP settings. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=822596 If you are having periodic connection problems (and you know they didn't exist before), Vista has changed the Automitic IP Address discovery timing to be almost instantaneous. So if you have an older wireless access point, or one that has long broadcast / "handshake" times, then you may have trouble because of this "improvement." http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931550/en-us (MS Does not provide a solution, only info. Like the other options, you will likely have to MANUALLY set up your IP info in the adapter, or purchase a new wireless access point.) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929824/en-us (problems if you have the SAME Gateway address as the one assigned to the computer you are trying to connect to the Wireless spot). ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To see your adapter info, use a command prompt window (Start Run type in CMD) and then type: ipconfig /all Find your network adapter and write down the Gateway, DNS, IP Address, and other settings. Also, go to the EVENT VIEWER and see if there are any messages related to you trying to connect to your wireless adapter at the times you tried to connect. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Regardless of the problem, if you KNOW the wireless spot works, and you had little or no trouble on XP, try MANUALLY setting up the IP info for that wireless access point. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I'm VERY disappointed at how many problems there are with the Vista wireless networking. Especially when SO MANY of the early Vista users are exactly the same customer base that USES WIRELESS! -- Barb Bowman MS Windows-MVP Expert Zone & Vista Community Columnist http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/ -- Barb Bowman MS Windows-MVP Expert Zone & Vista Community Columnist http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/ |
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FIXING VISTA WIRELESS NETWORKING PROBLEMS - SEVERAL SOLUTIONS
Bill, could you explain how to do this: "try MANUALLY setting up the IP info
for that wireless access point." I'm having internet connection problems too, and have found much of the info way to technical for me, so please write instructions for someone as dumb as I am Thanks! "Bill Wood" wrote: For all of you "techies" out there, before I even go through the fixes, do NOT waste your time with the Alternate IP configuration options on the wireless adapter. THEY FLAT DON'T WORK AT ALL in Vista. If you have a wireless access point, and you KNOW it works on other computers, but you get a "local only" message from Vista, the built-in DHCP router in your Wireless Access Point probably is NOT compatible with Vista... Here is one solution that may work for SOME routers (but it does NOT work for all of them!) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233/en-us If this does not work, and you still get the "local only" message, but you KNOW the access point works with XP wireless, etc., then MANUALLY SET the IP address info. Unfortunately, if you have to manually set the IP info, you will have to delete those settings with other wireless access points. And let me say one more time, DO NOT waste your time with the Alternate IP configuration, it doesn't work! http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928152/en-us (affects mostly wireless on laptops) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929847/en-us (Vista and XP together in a wireless environment) If your Gateway is on a different subnet (usually locations with large numbers of wireless spots such as businesses, universities, etc.) then you may have connection problems that FORCE you to manually configure your IP settings on the adapter. This is a FIX for XP SP2 that doesn't look like it made it into Vista, so, if you are experiencing this problem, LIKE ME, then you have no choice but to manually configure the IP settings. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=822596 If you are having periodic connection problems (and you know they didn't exist before), Vista has changed the Automitic IP Address discovery timing to be almost instantaneous. So if you have an older wireless access point, or one that has long broadcast / "handshake" times, then you may have trouble because of this "improvement." http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931550/en-us (MS Does not provide a solution, only info. Like the other options, you will likely have to MANUALLY set up your IP info in the adapter, or purchase a new wireless access point.) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929824/en-us (problems if you have the SAME Gateway address as the one assigned to the computer you are trying to connect to the Wireless spot). ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To see your adapter info, use a command prompt window (Start Run type in CMD) and then type: ipconfig /all Find your network adapter and write down the Gateway, DNS, IP Address, and other settings. Also, go to the EVENT VIEWER and see if there are any messages related to you trying to connect to your wireless adapter at the times you tried to connect. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Regardless of the problem, if you KNOW the wireless spot works, and you had little or no trouble on XP, try MANUALLY setting up the IP info for that wireless access point. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I'm VERY disappointed at how many problems there are with the Vista wireless networking. Especially when SO MANY of the early Vista users are exactly the same customer base that USES WIRELESS! |