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Old March 10th 07, 01:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Mike
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Default Unable to access NAS from Vista PC

I have a home network of XP Pro PCs and a Terastation NAS device. All the XP
machines can see each other, share files and printers etc including access to
the shared folders on the NAS. My new Vista machine can see and access the XP
machines, including sharing, but I can't get it to access the NAS. All of the
machines have identical usernames/passwords and all are on the same workgroup.

Any ideas?

thanks,
Mike
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Old March 10th 07, 05:24 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
estoad2
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Default Unable to access NAS from Vista PC

My workaround for this was to Map the Terrastation as a network drive on one
of the XP Machines.

"Mike" wrote:

I have a home network of XP Pro PCs and a Terastation NAS device. All the XP
machines can see each other, share files and printers etc including access to
the shared folders on the NAS. My new Vista machine can see and access the XP
machines, including sharing, but I can't get it to access the NAS. All of the
machines have identical usernames/passwords and all are on the same workgroup.

Any ideas?

thanks,
Mike

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Old March 10th 07, 06:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Robert L [MVP - Networking]
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Default Unable to access NAS from Vista PC

This link may help,

Vista: Can’t access NAS,MAC, Linux, Samba and Win98
http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums/viewforum.php?f=1

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Mike" wrote in message ...
I have a home network of XP Pro PCs and a Terastation NAS device. All the XP
machines can see each other, share files and printers etc including access to
the shared folders on the NAS. My new Vista machine can see and access the XP
machines, including sharing, but I can't get it to access the NAS. All of the
machines have identical usernames/passwords and all are on the same workgroup.

Any ideas?

thanks,
Mike
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Old March 11th 07, 01:04 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Mike
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Default Unable to access NAS from Vista PC

Thanks Rob,

I found the answer - thanks for your help.

If anyone else has the same problem, it's worth noting the following points;

1. the problem seems to be caused by Vista defaulting to a new version of
NTLM than the Samba operating system used by many NAS devices.

2. The problem can be solved by changing settings in the security policy to
allow a less restrictive set of protocols/versions - in Vista versions other
than Home Premium, this can be done by running secpol.msc (see links in
Robert's reply below and also this one
http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS4434907782.html, which gives quite a good
explanation of the problem).

3. In Vista Home Premium, secpol.msc doesn't exist, so you need to change a
registry setting, using regedit. The way to do it is as follows (many thanks
to Jimmy Brush on http://forums.techarena.in/showthread.php?t=670498):

- Click start
- Navigate to the 'run' command - probably in Programs\Accessories
- Type: regedit
- Press enter
- In the left, expand these folders:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\

- In the left, click on the folder named:

Lsa

- In the right, double-click "LmCompatibilityLevel"
- Type the number 1 (to replace the 3) and press enter
- Restart your computer

Thanks to all for your help.

Mike

"Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:

This link may help,

Vista: Can’t access NAS,MAC, Linux, Samba and Win98
http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums/viewforum.php?f=1

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Mike" wrote in message ...
I have a home network of XP Pro PCs and a Terastation NAS device. All the XP
machines can see each other, share files and printers etc including access to
the shared folders on the NAS. My new Vista machine can see and access the XP
machines, including sharing, but I can't get it to access the NAS. All of the
machines have identical usernames/passwords and all are on the same workgroup.

Any ideas?

thanks,
Mike

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Old March 11th 07, 03:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Robert L [MVP - Networking]
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Default Unable to access NAS from Vista PC

Thank you for the detail feedback.

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Mike" wrote in message ...
Thanks Rob,

I found the answer - thanks for your help.

If anyone else has the same problem, it's worth noting the following points;

1. the problem seems to be caused by Vista defaulting to a new version of
NTLM than the Samba operating system used by many NAS devices.

2. The problem can be solved by changing settings in the security policy to
allow a less restrictive set of protocols/versions - in Vista versions other
than Home Premium, this can be done by running secpol.msc (see links in
Robert's reply below and also this one
http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS4434907782.html, which gives quite a good
explanation of the problem).

3. In Vista Home Premium, secpol.msc doesn't exist, so you need to change a
registry setting, using regedit. The way to do it is as follows (many thanks
to Jimmy Brush on http://forums.techarena.in/showthread.php?t=670498):

- Click start
- Navigate to the 'run' command - probably in Programs\Accessories
- Type: regedit
- Press enter
- In the left, expand these folders:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\

- In the left, click on the folder named:

Lsa

- In the right, double-click "LmCompatibilityLevel"
- Type the number 1 (to replace the 3) and press enter
- Restart your computer

Thanks to all for your help.

Mike

"Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:

This link may help,

Vista: Can’t access NAS,MAC, Linux, Samba and Win98
http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums/viewforum.php?f=1

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Mike" wrote in message ...
I have a home network of XP Pro PCs and a Terastation NAS device. All the XP
machines can see each other, share files and printers etc including access to
the shared folders on the NAS. My new Vista machine can see and access the XP
machines, including sharing, but I can't get it to access the NAS. All of the
machines have identical usernames/passwords and all are on the same workgroup.

Any ideas?

thanks,
Mike

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Old April 20th 07, 03:40 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
AFJames@gmail.com
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Default Unable to access NAS from Vista PC

On Mar 11, 11:37 am, "Robert L [MVP - Networking]"
wrote:
Thank you for the detail feedback.

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting onhttp://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access onhttp://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Mike" wrote in ...
Thanks Rob,

I found the answer - thanks for your help.

If anyone else has the same problem, it's worth noting the following points;

1. the problem seems to be caused by Vista defaulting to a new version of
NTLM than the Samba operating system used by many NAS devices.

2. The problem can be solved by changing settings in the security policy to
allow a less restrictive set of protocols/versions - in Vista versions other
than Home Premium, this can be done by running secpol.msc (see links in
Robert's reply below and also this one
http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS4434907782.html, which gives quite a good
explanation of the problem).

3. In Vista Home Premium, secpol.msc doesn't exist, so you need to change a
registry setting, using regedit. The way to do it is as follows (many thanks
to Jimmy Brush onhttp://forums.techarena.in/showthread.php?t=670498):

- Click start
- Navigate to the 'run' command - probably in Programs\Accessories
- Type: regedit
- Press enter
- In the left, expand these folders:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\

- In the left, click on the folder named:

Lsa

- In the right, double-click "LmCompatibilityLevel"
- Type the number 1 (to replace the 3) and press enter
- Restart your computer

Thanks to all for your help.

Mike

"Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:

This link may help,

Vista: Can't access NAS,MAC, Linux, Samba and Win98
http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums/viewforum.php?f=1

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting onhttp://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access onhttp://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Mike" wrote in ...
I have a home network of XP Pro PCs and a Terastation NAS device. All the XP
machines can see each other, share files and printers etc including access to
the shared folders on the NAS. My new Vista machine can see and access the XP
machines, including sharing, but I can't get it to access the NAS. All of the
machines have identical usernames/passwords and all are on the same workgroup.

Any ideas?

thanks,
Mike



I appllied the registry edit as you listed...and it solved the first
problem -- I know see my NAS --and I see the directory structure, but
I can not see any files within the directory structure of my NAS.
Please assist.
Thanks...

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Old April 20th 07, 07:41 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
DC187
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Default Unable to access NAS from Vista PC


There is another way around this issue which you can use with
TeraStation Pro. See my post he http://tinyurl.com/yo8xjo

This will allow you to use the more secure NTLMv2 authentication and
also provides a performance boost for the TeraStation. Just depends if
you want to go to the effort


--
DC187
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Old May 3rd 07, 01:31 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
phillfri
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Default Unable to access NAS from Vista PC

I have the same problem you have. I changed the registry setting, but all I
can do is read the folders. Any attempt to access a subfolder on a NAAS share
causes Windows Explorer to freeze. Once in every 10 tries maybe, I can access
subfolders in a NAS share, but if I move back up the directory tree on the
NAS, Windows Explorer freezes again.

I've been looking for a solution to thios and no one seems to have any
additional suggestions, including theMVPs. Is Microsoft ever going to fix
this problem?

I run a Coolmax CN-550 NAS, a wireless USB device that is Vista Certified
(ZyXel G-202), and a ZyXel 334WH wireless router. The combination works
perfectly under Windows XP.

" wrote:

On Mar 11, 11:37 am, "Robert L [MVP - Networking]"
wrote:
Thank you for the detail feedback.

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting onhttp://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access onhttp://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Mike" wrote in ...
Thanks Rob,

I found the answer - thanks for your help.

If anyone else has the same problem, it's worth noting the following points;

1. the problem seems to be caused by Vista defaulting to a new version of
NTLM than the Samba operating system used by many NAS devices.

2. The problem can be solved by changing settings in the security policy to
allow a less restrictive set of protocols/versions - in Vista versions other
than Home Premium, this can be done by running secpol.msc (see links in
Robert's reply below and also this one
http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS4434907782.html, which gives quite a good
explanation of the problem).

3. In Vista Home Premium, secpol.msc doesn't exist, so you need to change a
registry setting, using regedit. The way to do it is as follows (many thanks
to Jimmy Brush onhttp://forums.techarena.in/showthread.php?t=670498):

- Click start
- Navigate to the 'run' command - probably in Programs\Accessories
- Type: regedit
- Press enter
- In the left, expand these folders:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\

- In the left, click on the folder named:

Lsa

- In the right, double-click "LmCompatibilityLevel"
- Type the number 1 (to replace the 3) and press enter
- Restart your computer

Thanks to all for your help.

Mike

"Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:

This link may help,

Vista: Can't access NAS,MAC, Linux, Samba and Win98
http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums/viewforum.php?f=1

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting onhttp://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access onhttp://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Mike" wrote in ...
I have a home network of XP Pro PCs and a Terastation NAS device. All the XP
machines can see each other, share files and printers etc including access to
the shared folders on the NAS. My new Vista machine can see and access the XP
machines, including sharing, but I can't get it to access the NAS. All of the
machines have identical usernames/passwords and all are on the same workgroup.

Any ideas?

thanks,
Mike



I appllied the registry edit as you listed...and it solved the first
problem -- I know see my NAS --and I see the directory structure, but
I can not see any files within the directory structure of my NAS.
Please assist.
Thanks...


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Old May 3rd 07, 08:40 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
koze
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Default Unable to access NAS from Vista PC

I do use Total Commander RC3 candidate and that give's me full access to the
NAS system.

It's the same with most NAS systems they have to fix the firmware to be
compatible with Vista, I would suggest file a support request on this with
the manufacturer of the NAS system as I have done.

The more requests they get the more likely a fix will be made.

Ko
"phillfri" schreef in bericht
...
I have the same problem you have. I changed the registry setting, but all I
can do is read the folders. Any attempt to access a subfolder on a NAAS
share
causes Windows Explorer to freeze. Once in every 10 tries maybe, I can
access
subfolders in a NAS share, but if I move back up the directory tree on the
NAS, Windows Explorer freezes again.

I've been looking for a solution to thios and no one seems to have any
additional suggestions, including theMVPs. Is Microsoft ever going to fix
this problem?

I run a Coolmax CN-550 NAS, a wireless USB device that is Vista Certified
(ZyXel G-202), and a ZyXel 334WH wireless router. The combination works
perfectly under Windows XP.

" wrote:

On Mar 11, 11:37 am, "Robert L [MVP - Networking]"
wrote:
Thank you for the detail feedback.

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting
onhttp://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access
onhttp://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Mike" wrote in
...
Thanks Rob,

I found the answer - thanks for your help.

If anyone else has the same problem, it's worth noting the following
points;

1. the problem seems to be caused by Vista defaulting to a new
version of
NTLM than the Samba operating system used by many NAS devices.

2. The problem can be solved by changing settings in the security
policy to
allow a less restrictive set of protocols/versions - in Vista
versions other
than Home Premium, this can be done by running secpol.msc (see links
in
Robert's reply below and also this one
http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS4434907782.html, which gives quite a
good
explanation of the problem).

3. In Vista Home Premium, secpol.msc doesn't exist, so you need to
change a
registry setting, using regedit. The way to do it is as follows (many
thanks
to Jimmy Brush
onhttp://forums.techarena.in/showthread.php?t=670498):

- Click start
- Navigate to the 'run' command - probably in Programs\Accessories
- Type: regedit
- Press enter
- In the left, expand these folders:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\

- In the left, click on the folder named:

Lsa

- In the right, double-click "LmCompatibilityLevel"
- Type the number 1 (to replace the 3) and press enter
- Restart your computer

Thanks to all for your help.

Mike

"Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:

This link may help,

Vista: Can't access NAS,MAC, Linux, Samba and Win98
http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums/viewforum.php?f=1

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting
onhttp://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access
onhttp://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Mike" wrote in
...
I have a home network of XP Pro PCs and a Terastation NAS device.
All the XP
machines can see each other, share files and printers etc
including access to
the shared folders on the NAS. My new Vista machine can see and
access the XP
machines, including sharing, but I can't get it to access the
NAS. All of the
machines have identical usernames/passwords and all are on the
same workgroup.

Any ideas?

thanks,
Mike



I appllied the registry edit as you listed...and it solved the first
problem -- I know see my NAS --and I see the directory structure, but
I can not see any files within the directory structure of my NAS.
Please assist.
Thanks...




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Old September 14th 07, 07:28 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Magnus
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Default Unable to access NAS from Vista PC

I also have the same problem with a Storagebird Lan. I have upgraded the
firmware to the latest SMB3 version and tried all the suggested Vista fixes
without any success. Did you find a solution?

Thanks

"phillfri" wrote:

I have the same problem you have. I changed the registry setting, but all I
can do is read the folders. Any attempt to access a subfolder on a NAAS share
causes Windows Explorer to freeze. Once in every 10 tries maybe, I can access
subfolders in a NAS share, but if I move back up the directory tree on the
NAS, Windows Explorer freezes again.

I've been looking for a solution to thios and no one seems to have any
additional suggestions, including theMVPs. Is Microsoft ever going to fix
this problem?

I run a Coolmax CN-550 NAS, a wireless USB device that is Vista Certified
(ZyXel G-202), and a ZyXel 334WH wireless router. The combination works
perfectly under Windows XP.

" wrote:

On Mar 11, 11:37 am, "Robert L [MVP - Networking]"
wrote:
Thank you for the detail feedback.

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting onhttp://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access onhttp://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Mike" wrote in ...
Thanks Rob,

I found the answer - thanks for your help.

If anyone else has the same problem, it's worth noting the following points;

1. the problem seems to be caused by Vista defaulting to a new version of
NTLM than the Samba operating system used by many NAS devices.

2. The problem can be solved by changing settings in the security policy to
allow a less restrictive set of protocols/versions - in Vista versions other
than Home Premium, this can be done by running secpol.msc (see links in
Robert's reply below and also this one
http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS4434907782.html, which gives quite a good
explanation of the problem).

3. In Vista Home Premium, secpol.msc doesn't exist, so you need to change a
registry setting, using regedit. The way to do it is as follows (many thanks
to Jimmy Brush onhttp://forums.techarena.in/showthread.php?t=670498):

- Click start
- Navigate to the 'run' command - probably in Programs\Accessories
- Type: regedit
- Press enter
- In the left, expand these folders:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\

- In the left, click on the folder named:

Lsa

- In the right, double-click "LmCompatibilityLevel"
- Type the number 1 (to replace the 3) and press enter
- Restart your computer

Thanks to all for your help.

Mike

"Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:

This link may help,

Vista: Can't access NAS,MAC, Linux, Samba and Win98
http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums/viewforum.php?f=1

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting onhttp://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access onhttp://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Mike" wrote in ...
I have a home network of XP Pro PCs and a Terastation NAS device. All the XP
machines can see each other, share files and printers etc including access to
the shared folders on the NAS. My new Vista machine can see and access the XP
machines, including sharing, but I can't get it to access the NAS. All of the
machines have identical usernames/passwords and all are on the same workgroup.

Any ideas?

thanks,
Mike



I appllied the registry edit as you listed...and it solved the first
problem -- I know see my NAS --and I see the directory structure, but
I can not see any files within the directory structure of my NAS.
Please assist.
Thanks...


 




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