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Large System Volume Information Folder



 
 
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Old March 10th 07, 11:41 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Tim
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I've got a 2nd drive (D that I use just for backing up Drive C. There is
a System Volume Information folder on that drive that is taking up 60GB. My
understanding is that this folder contains restore points. The problem is
this: when I go to System Properties, System Protection tab, Drive D is not
checked and it says there are no restore points for that drive. (Of course
C: is checked, and there are restore points for that drive.) In looking at
the System Volume Information folder on Drive D, restore points are being
created about once a week. Since restore points are already disabled for
that drive, how do I stop these from being created? Are the files safe to
delete?

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Old March 11th 07, 02:22 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Tim
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Default Large System Volume Information Folder

In doing a little more research, it appears that Complete PC Backup
automatically creates shadow copies, and this is probably what I'm seeing on
Drive D. I'm not sure I understand the usefullness of Complete PC Backup
creating shadow copies. Since it's already backing up the entire drive, it
seems redundant. And there are daily shadow copies already being created on
Drive C. In any event, I have no problem with them, as long as they will be
automatically deleted in the event my Complete PC Backup file needs the
space. Anyone know the answer?

"Tim" wrote in message
...
I've got a 2nd drive (D that I use just for backing up Drive C. There
is a System Volume Information folder on that drive that is taking up
60GB. My understanding is that this folder contains restore points. The
problem is this: when I go to System Properties, System Protection tab,
Drive D is not checked and it says there are no restore points for that
drive. (Of course C: is checked, and there are restore points for that
drive.) In looking at the System Volume Information folder on Drive D,
restore points are being created about once a week. Since restore points
are already disabled for that drive, how do I stop these from being
created? Are the files safe to delete?


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Old March 11th 07, 03:00 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
BurrWalnut
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Default Large System Volume Information Folder

You could reduce the amount of space reserved by System Restore, here
http://vistasupport.mvps.org/decreas...em_restore.htm


"Tim" wrote:

In doing a little more research, it appears that Complete PC Backup
automatically creates shadow copies, and this is probably what I'm seeing on
Drive D. I'm not sure I understand the usefullness of Complete PC Backup
creating shadow copies. Since it's already backing up the entire drive, it
seems redundant. And there are daily shadow copies already being created on
Drive C. In any event, I have no problem with them, as long as they will be
automatically deleted in the event my Complete PC Backup file needs the
space. Anyone know the answer?

"Tim" wrote in message
...
I've got a 2nd drive (D that I use just for backing up Drive C. There
is a System Volume Information folder on that drive that is taking up
60GB. My understanding is that this folder contains restore points. The
problem is this: when I go to System Properties, System Protection tab,
Drive D is not checked and it says there are no restore points for that
drive. (Of course C: is checked, and there are restore points for that
drive.) In looking at the System Volume Information folder on Drive D,
restore points are being created about once a week. Since restore points
are already disabled for that drive, how do I stop these from being
created? Are the files safe to delete?



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Old March 12th 07, 01:17 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)
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Default Large System Volume Information Folder

On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 10:22:33 -0500, "Tim"

In doing a little more research, it appears that Complete PC Backup
automatically creates shadow copies, and this is probably what I'm seeing on
Drive D. I'm not sure I understand the usefullness of Complete PC Backup
creating shadow copies. Since it's already backing up the entire drive, it
seems redundant.


It's the other way round; the only way backup can backup files that
are "in use" is by spawning a shadow copy and backing that up instead.

You'd think it would clear them when done, tho.



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Old March 12th 07, 06:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Jill Zoeller [MSFT]
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Default Large System Volume Information Folder

Incremental Complete PC Backups are stored as restore points on the target
volume. These are basically the deltas/changes on the volume since your last
Complete PC Backup. We set aside up to 30% of your volume to store these
(versus the default 15% for other volumes). When you hit that 30% limit, the
oldest restore points will be deleted.

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"Tim" wrote in message
...
In doing a little more research, it appears that Complete PC Backup
automatically creates shadow copies, and this is probably what I'm seeing
on Drive D. I'm not sure I understand the usefullness of Complete PC
Backup creating shadow copies. Since it's already backing up the entire
drive, it seems redundant. And there are daily shadow copies already
being created on Drive C. In any event, I have no problem with them, as
long as they will be automatically deleted in the event my Complete PC
Backup file needs the space. Anyone know the answer?

"Tim" wrote in message
...
I've got a 2nd drive (D that I use just for backing up Drive C. There
is a System Volume Information folder on that drive that is taking up
60GB. My understanding is that this folder contains restore points. The
problem is this: when I go to System Properties, System Protection tab,
Drive D is not checked and it says there are no restore points for that
drive. (Of course C: is checked, and there are restore points for that
drive.) In looking at the System Volume Information folder on Drive D,
restore points are being created about once a week. Since restore points
are already disabled for that drive, how do I stop these from being
created? Are the files safe to delete?



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Old March 12th 07, 09:28 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Tim
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Default Large System Volume Information Folder

Still, it appears that the vhd file contains the entirety of the backup
(I've mounted it and looked at the contents using vhdmount). So aren't
these restore points duplicative of what's in the vhd file?


"Jill Zoeller [MSFT]" wrote in message
...
Incremental Complete PC Backups are stored as restore points on the target
volume. These are basically the deltas/changes on the volume since your
last Complete PC Backup. We set aside up to 30% of your volume to store
these (versus the default 15% for other volumes). When you hit that 30%
limit, the oldest restore points will be deleted.

--
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

Want to learn more about Windows file and storage technologies? Visit our
team blog at http://blogs.technet.com/filecab/default.aspx.


"Tim" wrote in message
...
In doing a little more research, it appears that Complete PC Backup
automatically creates shadow copies, and this is probably what I'm seeing
on Drive D. I'm not sure I understand the usefullness of Complete PC
Backup creating shadow copies. Since it's already backing up the entire
drive, it seems redundant. And there are daily shadow copies already
being created on Drive C. In any event, I have no problem with them, as
long as they will be automatically deleted in the event my Complete PC
Backup file needs the space. Anyone know the answer?

"Tim" wrote in message
...
I've got a 2nd drive (D that I use just for backing up Drive C. There
is a System Volume Information folder on that drive that is taking up
60GB. My understanding is that this folder contains restore points.
The problem is this: when I go to System Properties, System Protection
tab, Drive D is not checked and it says there are no restore points for
that drive. (Of course C: is checked, and there are restore points for
that drive.) In looking at the System Volume Information folder on
Drive D, restore points are being created about once a week. Since
restore points are already disabled for that drive, how do I stop these
from being created? Are the files safe to delete?




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Old March 12th 07, 10:21 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.performance_maintenance
Jill Zoeller [MSFT]
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Default Large System Volume Information Folder

Yes, the vhd file contains the latest backup, but the changes between that
backup and the previous backup are saved as shadow copies. So if you wanted
to restore your computer to an earlier date than your last backup, you can
do so.

--
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

Want to learn more about Windows file and storage technologies? Visit our
team blog at http://blogs.technet.com/filecab/default.aspx.


"Tim" wrote in message
...
Still, it appears that the vhd file contains the entirety of the backup
(I've mounted it and looked at the contents using vhdmount). So aren't
these restore points duplicative of what's in the vhd file?


"Jill Zoeller [MSFT]" wrote in message
...
Incremental Complete PC Backups are stored as restore points on the
target volume. These are basically the deltas/changes on the volume since
your last Complete PC Backup. We set aside up to 30% of your volume to
store these (versus the default 15% for other volumes). When you hit that
30% limit, the oldest restore points will be deleted.

--
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

Want to learn more about Windows file and storage technologies? Visit our
team blog at http://blogs.technet.com/filecab/default.aspx.


"Tim" wrote in message
...
In doing a little more research, it appears that Complete PC Backup
automatically creates shadow copies, and this is probably what I'm
seeing on Drive D. I'm not sure I understand the usefullness of
Complete PC Backup creating shadow copies. Since it's already backing
up the entire drive, it seems redundant. And there are daily shadow
copies already being created on Drive C. In any event, I have no
problem with them, as long as they will be automatically deleted in the
event my Complete PC Backup file needs the space. Anyone know the
answer?

"Tim" wrote in message
...
I've got a 2nd drive (D that I use just for backing up Drive C.
There is a System Volume Information folder on that drive that is
taking up 60GB. My understanding is that this folder contains restore
points. The problem is this: when I go to System Properties, System
Protection tab, Drive D is not checked and it says there are no restore
points for that drive. (Of course C: is checked, and there are restore
points for that drive.) In looking at the System Volume Information
folder on Drive D, restore points are being created about once a week.
Since restore points are already disabled for that drive, how do I stop
these from being created? Are the files safe to delete?





 




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