Yes, there is a NDA for Connect, Just FYI. All of you guys who are talking
about Windows Vista Build 5536, are in Violation of that NDA, and will
indeed be removed from the Windows Vista Technical Beta.

"firth" wrote in message
...
Is there an NDA for Connect users that have access to Vista, or can I post
here when a build is available on Connect?

I didn't sign anything or agree to anything like that (that I know of)...
--
Robert Firth
http://www.winvistainfo.org

Prove it?
wrote in message ...
Yes, there is a NDA for Connect, Just FYI. All of you guys who are talking
about Windows Vista Build 5536, are in Violation of that NDA, and will
indeed be removed from the Windows Vista Technical Beta.

"firth" wrote in message
...
Is there an NDA for Connect users that have access to Vista, or can I post
here when a build is available on Connect?

I didn't sign anything or agree to anything like that (that I know of)...
--
Robert Firth
http://www.winvistainfo.org

I first need somebody to Post the EULA for Build 5536, and then I will hopefully be able to prove it, just FYI.
"Jason" wrote in message ...
Prove it?
wrote in message ...
Yes, there is a NDA for Connect, Just FYI. All of you guys who are talking
about Windows Vista Build 5536, are in Violation of that NDA, and will
indeed be removed from the Windows Vista Technical Beta.

"firth" wrote in message
...
Is there an NDA for Connect users that have access to Vista, or can I post
here when a build is available on Connect?

I didn't sign anything or agree to anything like that (that I know of)...
--
Robert Firth
http://www.winvistainfo.org

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EULAID:VISTA_RC.0_PRO_NRL_en-US

Do not confuse the EULA and Connect.
Nothing in the Vista EULA refers to anything on Connect.
Get your facts straight Kevin.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


wrote in message
...
Yes, there is a NDA for Connect, Just FYI. All of you guys who are
talking about Windows Vista Build 5536, are in Violation of that NDA, and
will indeed be removed from the Windows Vista Technical Beta.

wrote:
Yes, there is a NDA for Connect, Just FYI. All of you guys who are talking
about Windows Vista Build 5536, are in Violation of that NDA, and will
indeed be removed from the Windows Vista Technical Beta.


Kev, please take your meds! It's sad to see you suffering from delusions!